UK Elections - The results and musings.

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vallorn

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Cmwissy said:
As an insane left-wing socialist bastard, I'm not happy.


Who the hell would vote Tory?
me.

as a crazy right wing Thatcherite,im amused that more people didnt vote Labour.

who the hell wouldnt vote Conservative.?

(and whats with all the rabid hate for Cameron on here?)

i Would quite like to see a Lib/Con partnership as Cleg said he'd partner up to the party which had the greatest number of seats/votes which both mean he should partner with Cameron or risk looking like a liar.

but then again, if he partners with brown then it will all fall apart (historical precedent) and the people will punish him for proping up this sham of an administration, resulting in a Conservative majority.
 

SilentHunter7

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Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
In one of our 650 constituencies, you vote for a candidate from a party.

For example, let's say a Conservative candidate got 19,000 votes, and the Lib Dem candidate got 18,500. Because the Conservative candidate has a majority of votes, however small, they win the seat, and we can basically discard all those Lib Dem votes.

Lib Dem support is basically very spread out.

That is why the Lib Dems get so few seats, and why they keep campaigning for electoral reform.
Ooooooohhhhh. That actually clears things up a lot. So it's kind of like how we elect our representatives? Though I guess it's not as big a deal here, because our executive is elected by popular vote. And there's only 2 parties.
 

Jedamethis

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We had a sort of mini election at school. We were given a list of some of the parties and their policies, but with the names removed. Conservatives won.
 

CK76

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TyrantGanado said:
I'm disappointed that so many people have blindly listened to David Cameron and swung round to the Conservatives. This see-sawing political system does no one any good as nothing ever really changes, cause everything the current party do will be undone by their successor. I wish people would vote with their heads and not simply just "going for the big party that isn't in office just now."

I don't get how Americans can be satisfied having only the Democrats and Republicans. Unfortunately, despite the presence of other parties, this country boils down to Labour and Conservatives so it's pretty much the same. Anyway, I have digressed.
We're not, the majority of people don't vote out of apathy or disgust.

We both have simple majority systems which lead to Monopolies or Biopolies. Last time a strong third party came up in Britain (Labour) it did so at expense of old (Lib Dem) party.
 

tjarne

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Prometherion said:
Conservatives: 36.1% of the vote, 295 seats.
Labour: 29%, 252 seats
Lib-Dems: 22% 53 seats (isnt our electoral system weird)
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Yeah your system is weird, does someone care to explain how they split the seats?
And yeah, Conservativism sounds like the way of the future, gogo Labour. But if your system works similar to ours it might be hard for them.
 

orangebandguy

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I don't see the big problem with slightly right wing politics, I'd rather be slightly right wing than slightly left.

Only thing questionable for me about the Tories is the spending cuts.

Every party is so central now it hardly matters who gets in.
 

Pillypill

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Frankly i don't see why a hung parliment can't work...

I'm actualy rather pleased with the results; the tories didn't win, and for once they're not in controll of my constituency (i don't think i've spelt that right) we're now a lib dem area, at least i think so, which is mildly better.

I'm also very glad to see the green party in controll of Brighton pavillion.
 

Martster

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Whatever happens lets just hope that the country can finally start growing again and more jobs for all
 

Liberaliter

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I love how the Liberal Democrats got less than 2005, I for one am glad. Now we wait until a coalition and electoral reform so UKIP can get in.
 

Treblaine

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SilentHunter7 said:
Treblaine said:
See as much as people ***** about America's 2 party system the point is at least neither right nor left vote is significantly split. Little to no danger of a hung senate.
Oh, how I wish.

The 111th Senate is quite possibly the most gridlocked and ineffective governing body since Rome. All thanks to a loophole in the way the Senate conducts business that requires 60% of the vote to go forward with anything. And since the Dems only have 59/100, they can't do anything, because the minority Republicans stonewall any legislation they want to pass.

Edited out a comment that in hindsight, kinda sounded unintentionally arrogant
I've been waiting for a good opportunity to use this clip:


Looks like dick all is happening till November.

BTW, if you need 60 votes (out of 100) to pass a bill, and there a 41 Republican senators, and apparently not a single Republican voted in favour of Obama-care... how did it get passed?!?!

Did... did one of them secretly vote for Obama's bill?

That would be hilarious, at the Republican senate BBQ:

-McConnell: "God dammit I KNOW someone in here voted for that bill, now which one was it!"
-Someone else: "wasn't me boss"
-McConnell: "i don't care if it wasn't you, no ice cream for anyone till I find out who"
-Someone else: "Awwwwww. So all that has to happen is he has to come forward and then we all get ice Cream?"
-McConnell: "yes... expect the person who voted pro-bill. They get nothing"
-someone else: "But then what incentive do they have to come forwards?"
...
McConnell: "... Ahh... err... I was YOU wasn't it!"
 

Liberaliter

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Embz said:
If the conservatives get into power I'm emigrating
Why are you surprised and/or shocked?

The British political cycle is Labour,Tory,Labour,Tory etc etc, taking it in turns to be the same and boring.
 

Embz

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Liberaliter said:
Embz said:
If the conservatives get into power I'm emigrating
Why are you surprised and/or shocked?

The British political cycle is Labour,Tory,Labour,Tory etc etc, taking it in turns to be the same and boring.
Im not surprised, I never said I was
 
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Liberaliter said:
I love how the Liberal Democrats got less than 2005, I for one am glad. Now we wait until a coalition and electoral reform so UKIP can get in.
Yeah, since UKIP after all has all the most coherent policies, and would never ever not know what to do once they had pulled Britain out of the EU.
 

SilentHunter7

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Treblaine said:
BTW, if you need 60 votes (out of 100) to pass a bill, and there a 41 Republican senators, and apparently not a single Republican voted in favour of Obama-care... how did it get passed?!?
One of the democrats died in office, and a Republican was voted in during a special election, but not before they passed the bill. So they HAD 60. But not anymore.

This was also why the House of Representatives couldn't make any of the changes they wanted to the bill, because then it would have to go back to the Senate, and it would've probably died there.
 

Liberaliter

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Embz said:
Liberaliter said:
Embz said:
If the conservatives get into power I'm emigrating
Why are you surprised and/or shocked?

The British political cycle is Labour,Tory,Labour,Tory etc etc, taking it in turns to be the same and boring.
Im not surprised, I never said I was
Yeah. I mean, I know we all have to hate the Tories now - but it wouldn't be that bad really, just more of the same. Plus we haven't done that badly over the past couple of decades whoevers been in power.
 

Harrowdown

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Despite not being able to make 326 seats, a lib/lab coalition with enough political will might well dominate the commons for a while. Cameron will be pushing for a redo, i'm sure.
 

Liberaliter

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Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
Liberaliter said:
I love how the Liberal Democrats got less than 2005, I for one am glad. Now we wait until a coalition and electoral reform so UKIP can get in.
Yeah, since UKIP after all has all the most coherent policies, and would never ever not know what to do once they had pulled Britain out of the EU.
I happen to like some of their policies. After looking through the parties, UKIP (To me) have the highest number of policies I agree with.

My main difference to UKIP's policies is immigration, I say we let everyone and anyone in.
 

colourcodedchaos

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UKIP - we send people to sleep.

As a staunch member of the Left, I wanted to vote Labour in my constituency, a key marginal by the name of Thanet South. As a seventeen-year-old, I could not. The seat was lost.

To add insult to injury, a} the losing MP was Labour's Steven Ladyman (one of only 27 MPs with a science degree) and b} he only lost because a month before the election the Council changed Thanet South's boundaries to incorporate the Cliftonville West ward - a collection of die-hard Tory neighbourhoods.

Is Thanet District Council a Conservative one? Why, plug my nips with a brace of tapirs, so it is!