UK Elections - The results and musings.

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corporate_gamer

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i'm sad that Zac Goldsmith (Tory) won in my constituency but sad that the Tories didn't get a majority because that's seriously bad for business. I am also sad that (even though they thankfully didn't get a seat) the BNP got 1.9% of the vote. 1 in 50 of the British people are officially cunts.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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Kelbear said:
Can someone explain the big hullabaloo over establishing a majority in Parliament?

What is different about the political process that makes a majority position so important?
Because the party that gains a majority becomes the government.

I have somewhat mixed feelings on this. I don't want electoral reform, as all we would have is hung parliaments and coalition after coalition with elections every 1-3 years.
I also really don't want a Tory government, especially under Cameron and Osborne. I trust Cameron completely to cock up the country, screw over the economy to give his rich friends tax breaks, and cut spending in the north. If there is one region that consistently suffers under the conservatives its the North East.
I'm just hoping that in next years election, and there will most likely be an election within the next 12 months, that the tories have cocked up so massively that people kick them out on their arse
 

splatterguy734

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I wanted labour to stay in but I knew the conservatives would come out on top. I don't like him but I respect Gordon Brown for persevering througe his stay in power.
 

BluenetteDiviner

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I was hoping the Liberal Democrats would do better... and if Labour get back in i'm gonna die. I'm not too fond of the Conservatives, but i'll put up with them if they don't join with Labour :p
 

Trivun

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Well, I'm in Leeds North West, and voted for Greg Mulholland, the Lib Dem MP. He kept his seat, which was good :). Unfortunately, despite in local elections there being a strong Lib Dem/Conservative coalition, all the other Leeds areas have Labour MPs, who all kept their seats, save for a Conservative gain in Dewsbury.

Overall, as a Lib Dem I'm disappointed we lost seats, but I'm glad it was a hung parliament simply because now Gordon Brown is likely to get the chop by Labour, and hopefully it'll be one of the Milliband brothers, or David Blunkett, who replaces him (they all seem like reasonably well-informed and sensible Labour MPs compared to the shambles that is the rest of the party). Plus, the Lib Dems have a very strong position despite our lack of seats to be considered by both Conservative and Labour to form a coalition government, so there's a much stronger chance we'll be able to gain more seats and more power come the next General Election.

Of course, going by history, and indeed the chances of Brown being booted soon, there's likely to be another General Election within the next year...
 

Cabisco

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Daystar Clarion said:
Not a single seat went to the BNP, regardless of of the whole hung parliament, it's a great day against far right politics.
True true, and i'm also happy for the Green party finnally getting a seat. Still for me the two big upsets of this election were the fact that a bunch of people didn't get to vote and their was no surge in Lib Dem support, the only percentage of people voting for them went up by like 1%.
 

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TerribleAssassin said:
Crayzor said:
I'm pretty disappointed with the results. I was hoping the Lib Dems would fare much better, and the Conservative MP in my area regained the seat. 'Tis a sad day.
Aye, I was backing Lib Dems


Shouldn't this go in the Polotics fourm?

And 302 Conservatives seats?! Time to move.
It should go in politics, but this far too momentous an occasion to keep it there.
OT: I thought as much (except for the Lib. Dems losing seats part, that's just weird).
 
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Trivun said:
Overall, as a Lib Dem I'm disappointed we lost seats, but I'm glad it was a hung parliament simply because now Gordon Brown is likely to get the chop by Labour, and hopefully it'll be one of the Milliband brothers, or David Blunkett, who replaces him (they all seem like reasonably well-informed and sensible Labour MPs compared to the shambles that is the rest of the party).
Edward Milliband perhaps, but David Milliband is slimy - I don't trust him one bit. And I don't think Mr. Blunkett would become the leader, since he's blind (there's a big difference to having a one-eyed Prime Minister, to a blind one - I know he was the Home Secretary, but I very much doubt he'll make it in. At least he admitted Labour was very likely to lose the election).
 

Nikajo

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TheGhostOfSin said:
#Big snip#
So are you actually saying that if somebody turned up well in advance of 10pm and was not allowed to vote through no fault of their own then that's just their bad luck?

I don't want to fall out with you about this so I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. Although I do wonder how you would actually feel and react if you were on the receiving end of this. Bearing in mind I'm reffering to the people that turned up before ten, not after.

I do agree with you about the whole being given money for not being allowed to vote though, that is particularly retarded considering the current financial state of this country.
 

Nobby

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Prometherion said:
Remember all that bullshit over "video nasties" and think about what some commonwealth countries are doing like Australia and massive internet censorship.
The party in Australia that's trying to censor the internet is our Labor party not our conservatives, who are called the Liberals.

On a more related topic, so the UK is going to get the joy of a hung parliament is it?
 

SabreCut

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Don't really know how the situation fares over the whole UK yet (still need to see what the Lib Dems do in making a minority government) but its good to see that the Scots still hate the Conservatives, although out of all of Scotland, it would by my home constituency that votes the one Conservative MP in, wouldn't it?

Still, result up here is the best we could've hoped for, with Labour taking pretty much everything. Yet, given the Conservatives' huge presence south of the border and practical non-existence above it, it's going to be tough for them to govern and may lead to Scotland leaving the UK union, which would be disastrous. Unfortunately, nationalist pride is running high in Scotland against the English, not helped by the Fleet Street newspapers including Gordon Brown's nationality in their statements every time they insult his leadership. At least with Labour in majority in Scotland we have a chance of avoiding this, but it doesn't look good.
 

Cuacuani

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No matter who you vote for, the Government gets in.

I'm struggling to care too much about the result, apart from a familiar sense of disappointment. However, something made me laugh (in that 'something bad is going to happen' way): Stevenage. Conservative gain. Good fucking luck, lads. Have fun with that.
 

Cabisco

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Quaxar said:
I'm not British, so could anyone maybe explain to me why a 7% difference results in 200 seats less for Clegg? I just don't get it...
The way our system works is that different seats have different numbers of people. So most of Labours seats are quite small, where you would only need 19,000 to win a seat where as say the Lib Dems would need at least 35,000. When it all adds up, labour get most of these small seats and so can potentially have the 3rd amount of votes and still have a majority government (this didn't happen of cause but it could have).

This is why the Lib Dems are calling for reforms, and this is also why the other two parties are against it. Their reasoning being if you have a system which works in your favour why change it?
 

steevee

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Eugh. Why is there so much anit-conservative sentiment everywhere I go?

Looking at their manifesto and their history of governing, they seem like the only choice.

And just a point, for everyone who says somethign along the lines of 'Cameron is a dick', for democracy to work, you have to vote on what they intend to do, not just whether you like the person. *Facepalm*

Oh, and before I forget, calling Cameron and 'Eton Twat' doesn't really say much, because Brown went to Eton aswell, and Clegg went to schools that are slightly less well known, but still of the same ilk as Eton.
 
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steevee said:
Eugh. Why is there so much anit-conservative sentiment everywhere I go?

Looking at their manifesto and their history of governing, they seem like the only choice.

And just a point, for everyone who says somethign along the lines of 'Cameron is a dick', for democracy to work, you have to vote on what they intend to do, not just whether you like the person. *Facepalm*

Oh, and before I forget, calling Cameron and 'Eton Twat' doesn't really say much, because Brown went to Eton aswell, and Clegg went to schools that are slightly less well known, but still of the same ilk as Eton.
Their history? You do not know what happened under Thatcher's rule right?
 

TheGhostOfSin

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Nikajo said:
TheGhostOfSin said:
#Big snip#
So are you actually saying that if somebody turned up well in advance of 10pm and was not allowed to vote through no fault of their own then that's just their bad luck?

I don't want to fall out with you about this so I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. Although I do wonder how you would actually feel and react if you were on the receiving end of this. Bearing in mind I'm reffering to the people that turned up before ten, not after.

I do agree with you about the whole being given money for not being allowed to vote though, that is particularly retarded considering the current financial state of this country.
Ah, I didn't make that quite clear, while I do feel quite sorry for those unable to vote it's not their fault, unless they turned up late by choice that is, that they couldn't vote but it also is not the fault of the Government, or the council workers.
It's just something that went a bit badly with no-one to really blame.

But, and I really hate to say this, it makes me sound like all those old people I hated as a young 'un.
Rules are rules, the law is the law etcetera.

If I was turned away? I'd be upset sure, but I would understand why. I certainly wouldn't be acting like some of the people on recordings of it, Screaming at the 80 year old council workers because of a queue? Bad form Britain.
 

nifedj

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As a Scot, I'm not exactly happy with the prospect of being governed by a party with 1 Scottish seat.

Labour have offered the Lib Dems what they want: a referendum on voting reform. If Nick Clegg is willing to go for that, there is still a chance of the Tories being kept out. The SNP would side with Labour, though obviously on certain terms, and then there are little things like taking the Speaker into account.

The coalition probably wouldn't be popular to start with, but provided we continue recovering from the recession public opinion would come round.
 

Danzaivar

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I think it's funny how in 2005 Labout got 0.1% less of the total vote than the Tories got this time, but Labour had a majority of 40. Tories by comparison are 20 odd short.

Our system is a mess, and really biased.

A lib-dem tory coalition strikes me as a pretty sensible move tho. If Brown stays as PM tho, somethings just wrong.