UK Government to block porn

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BlackStar42

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Well, they are conservative...

Seriously, don't they know better than this? They can't even stop a few filesharers, and now they're taking on Rule 34? Do they even know what a proxy is? Am I asking too many rhetorical questions?
 

Daffy F

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Oh, in the UK. Damn, sucks to be a Brit. I thought the US was bad with their "government nanny" laws.
I'm not so sure this is particularly accurate, especially as I haven't heard anything about this and I live in the UK. Furthermore, the source is from an Australian news website. More relevant source please?
 

Delusibeta

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Daffy F said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Oh, in the UK. Damn, sucks to be a Brit. I thought the US was bad with their "government nanny" laws.
I'm not so sure this is particularly accurate, especially as I haven't heard anything about this and I live in the UK. Furthermore, the source is from an Australian news website. More relevant source please?
Front page of the Sunday Times website. [http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/] I'll try to find a source that doesn't demand a subscription to read it.

[Edit] Found one, via the Telegraph [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8212646/Internet-pornography-curb-by-the-Government.html].
 

Rockchimp69

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cocoro67 said:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-e6frfro0-1225973501259
I find this really bad, Even to "PROTECT THE CHILDREN"
EDIT: Okay, I know a lot of you guys said how does and Australian news site know this and to be honest I am asking that too, I just saw it on my daily news breakfast and thought to myself "WOW, I NEED TO TELL MORE PEOPLE" but now that I think about it, Yeah, but still, Go read the actual article fully before saying something like that
I doubt that will actually happen, it would be a complete breach of freedom.
 

razer17

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Errrmmm. I can't find anything about this on the BBC news site. Until then I don't believe this will happen.
 

Double A

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The Geek Lord said:
Double A said:
Oh, yeah, not like parents could do this on their own. By checking their kid's browser history, or blocking porn sites with that "parental control" option on every fucking computer.

Why do people rely on the government now for shit they can do in three minutes?
For the same reason people can't figure out that GIANT FUCKING ESRB rating on video games?

The government should be telling parents to do their own fucking jobs. If parents are so god damned worried about this shit, then why don't they do anything about it?

It's. Not. That. Hard. People. Holy Jeebzus nailed to toast with copies of D2, humanity is retarded.

(Then again, I haven't actually bothered to read the article, considering it's 1:30 in the morning, and I've read more than enough bullshit to know when something is facepalmingly unworthy of reading.)
It pretty much says what you'd think it'd say.

Seriously, I'm gonna laugh so hard when it turns out my generation are better parents.
 

Shock and Awe

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Its days like these I am proud to be an American. Seriously, sorry to all those UK porn watchers, its a sad day for you guys.
 

Section Crow

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This source seems a bit to unreliable for my tastes...

and with everything going on in the UK i don't really think they have the spare time to look this info up and use it for banning porn.
 

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What the UK does have the balls to go though is make BYPASSING the filter illegal. So it doesn't have to be impossible, just actual and even remotely traceable. Then the police can bump up their arrest targets with some easy non-violent suspects. After all, it's hard work going after really dangerous criminals, best bump up the numbers with some soft and easy targets.
First, I can't argue over the whole bumping up the numbers of arrests to look good by targeting non-violent 'criminals' with bullshit laws. I've bitched about prohibition too much and that is one of the biggest arguments I use, so I know it is all about looking good on paper regardless of how many innocent people get hurt in the process. The US is worse for this fact, as they get paid to have the numbers high and scratch the back of some of the largest corporate bodies by turning prison into slave labor camps that need a large flow of prisoners.

However, making something illegal and being able to enforce it are two different things. I can't see this law being effective as people could so easily bypass it. Twice so as the tools used to bypass it also doubling as the ones used to disguise your identity. All this is designed to do is add an extra layer of censorship and monitoring to a system already putting big brother to shame. The criminals are not the ones being targeted in these systems, that is the excuse, it is so they can monitor and hopefully better control the flow of information.

The internet is the biggest free-flow of information and even China, with a closed off and heavily monitored web, can not control the flow of information. These laws are all about trying to find ways to turn the internet into a political tool, something they can control and use as a weapon against the very people who use it to freely give information.

Australia fucked up and their list got leaked. Of all the sites on it the whole 'porn' they where fighting took up less then 5%! Banning most of the sites on that list had nothing to do with 'protecting children' but was all geared towards monitoring and controlling the flow of other information. From political 'inconvenient' news sites right through to historical research that would point to thinks the government did that are no longer acceptable in polite society. It was these sort of sights that took up the majority of the banned list.

But protecting kids, hell it is the oldest tool to use to distract people away from what you are really doing. Everyone wants to protect children, so they don't look close at something unless they are branded as 'child molesters' for even daring to look into the facts, let alone speak out against them. Happened too, those who did speak out against this censorship where branded as people wanting to harm or abuse children....

This is all about control of information, always has been, and the children don't matter to the politicians... protecting their own grasp of power is what they want.
 

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I can't see this getting very far.

Claire Perry, the Tory MP for Devizes and a keen lobbyist for more restrictions, said: "Unless we show leadership, the internet industry is not going to self-regulate.
Also, I'll happily put money on this MP being a busy body sticking her nose in to other peoples business.
 

Geekosaurus

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Come back to be when they've successfully pulled this off. For now I'm just putting it on the unlikely pile.
 

Assassin Xaero

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Umm.... cool story bro? I don't live in the UK and look at porn, so I don't really care all that much, but I guess a lot of people are probably freaking out and downloading as much as they can right now...
 

Jamash

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Homeowners can either specify which adult sites they want to receive or put a cinema-style classification on their feed to restrict what is received according to age ranges,
This is why it would fail (if it were true).

If you're a respectable family man, with a steady job and loving wife and family who, when the kids are asleep or staying at friends, likes to enjoy watching porn with your wife, you have 2 options.

The first option is to phone up your ISP, speak to a complete stranger (worse if it's outsourced) and read off a list of specific porn sites you want unblocked, giving them a full breakdown of your fetishes and turn-ons. The potential for embarrassment and blackmail is astronomical.

The second, much safer and less embarrassing option, is to phone up your ISP and ask for a blanket 18 certificate rating on all your internet traffic, which defeats the entire purpose of this proposed act.

Making adults choose between openly admitting their fetishes and perversions to a untrusted stranger over the phone, or giving up an aspect of their adult sex life is ridiculous and not a choice most parents would want to make.

It's a good job this proposal has to go through the House of Commons and the House of Lords before it's made law... I think the Lords will respect people's right to a private sex life and shoot it down.
 

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Just finished reading about this in The Sunday Times, and after considering it for a while, I'm actually for this. So long as the "turning on" process is as simple and anonymous for the adult as possible, then it's good.

Kids shouldn't see the stuff they can on the web. What used to be available in the old days - magazine porn - was no way near as damaging as what you get get on the web is, if only for the fact that it was static. Static images can only convey so much, hence the rise of television back in the day.
Most porn on the internet containing a mix of men and women will cast the woman in an incredibly subservient position. She might be reluctant at first, perhaps unwilling, but as soon as the guy starts molesting her then she becomes happy and soon is screaming in pleasure. What sort of fucking message is that to give people who haven't had sexual experiences yet?
Then there's the added expectations when it comes to sex in the real world. Girls can feel pressured into weird positions, oral, anal, or anything else the guy may have seen on a porn site. And that's just fucking up.

I know there is a bias on this site towards anti-censoring of anything. No idea why, I guess it comes from living in a time of relative peace and liberty. But you cannot argue that trying to make it so that kids don't see two older guys simultaneously fucking a "barely legal!" girl is a bad thing. Porn filters are damn good these days, and while it will be possible for the kids to find stuff it will definitely be more difficult and time consuming. That alone means there's no reason not to do it.

And as for the protest that parents should parent more, since when has that fucking happened recently?
 

subject_87

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So then, UK government, good luck stopping base human desires.

Really, though, I suspect that 'family values' (read: censorship) groups who insist that the government step in to protect the children from the societal menace du jour are just projecting their own ineffective parenting onto the government, which has plenty of actual issues to worry about as is.
 

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Jamieson 90 said:
Christ I don't want the UK to get like the states, So lots of blood gore violence and bad language is fine as long as there is no nudity....

Lets get our priorities right, for kids nudity is a regular thing, I mean seriously how many times did I see my parents or other siblings nude when I was growing up. I know pornography isn't simply nudity but sex is a natural thing. Violence on the other hand is hardly natural. I think I would be more concerned about the violence my kids saw rather than the nudity or sex.

Again the government getting involved in issues Its not supposed to. I thought we had a Conservative and Liberal government. You know a government that didn't want things to change and were all for civil liberties. Its about the only thing I like about the two at the moment that they stand for civil liberties because their stance on everything else is crap.

As for preventing kids from accidently viewing porn. Most browsers have safety modes on that restrict adult content. With that on its pretty hard to access porn without actively looking for it. Kids will watch porn if they want to simply put. I think this is an issue for parents really rather than the government.
Violence isn't natural? We have been killing each other before we could grow crops or invent the wheel, it is our second favorite hobby beside screwing.
 

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The biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk

As if you've not already done enough fucking damage. Now you're cutting off the porn. Well, two can play at that game...when i come up with a plan at least...
 

Mr Cwtchy

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Sod off, Cameron.

Not that this is ever going to happen, but I feel so embarrassed by this government sometimes >_<