Ultramarines: The Movie

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Ultrajoe said:
Personal Wish - Weeaboo-stamp me all you want, but I think 40K belongs in the realm of Anime. As a series, not a feature.
Animated I could totally understand. Anime I would give a very wide berth. Same with a series.
 

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scumofsociety said:
Ultrajoe said:
Personal Wish - Weeaboo-stamp me all you want, but I think 40K belongs in the realm of Anime. As a series, not a feature.
Animated I could totally understand. Anime I would give a very wide berth. Same with a series.
I only specify Anime because it has a good track-record with such things. If there was a western animation style that could go the distance, of which I am skeptical in the extreme, go for it.
 

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Ultrajoe said:
scumofsociety said:
Ultrajoe said:
Personal Wish - Weeaboo-stamp me all you want, but I think 40K belongs in the realm of Anime. As a series, not a feature.
Animated I could totally understand. Anime I would give a very wide berth. Same with a series.
I only specify Anime because it has a good track-record with such things. If there was a western animation style that could go the distance, of which I am skeptical in the extreme, go for it.
The animation team behind the DC Animated Universe, or the guys who made the 2D cutscenes for Dantes Inferno fit the bill.
 

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scumofsociety said:
Ultrajoe said:
Personal Wish - Weeaboo-stamp me all you want, but I think 40K belongs in the realm of Anime. As a series, not a feature.
Animated I could totally understand. Anime I would give a very wide berth. Same with a series.
I'm with Ultra on this one, Granted I am not the most knowledgeable on this subject by far

but I make it a point to know enough about stuff to talk in some kind of detail, and if not, them I'm tired

either way

Anime would lend itself to 40K,

Not all Anime is big breasted, Etc..

and it just makes more sense than trying to push 40K into a 70 minutes, when you can put it into season(s) or what-have-you
 

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Ultrajoe said:
scumofsociety said:
Ultrajoe said:
Personal Wish - Weeaboo-stamp me all you want, but I think 40K belongs in the realm of Anime. As a series, not a feature.
Animated I could totally understand. Anime I would give a very wide berth. Same with a series.
I only specify Anime because it has a good track-record with such things. If there was a western animation style that could go the distance, of which I am skeptical in the extreme, go for it.
Just wondering but is there a certain style or series of anime you'd like to see a 40K series done in?
 

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I'd love a band of brothers-esque Gaunt's Ghosts series. I think it would be fantastic if done right. Perhaps the seige of Vervunhive?

at any rate I'm not the biggest fan of Papa Smurf and his followers, but heck, ya gotta start somewhere.

Edit: Holy crap Dan Abnett is writing this?!? Well my hope for their being a decent narrative has greatly improved. If anyone can write a decent narrative for the least characterised chapter, he can.
 

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I want a khan the betrayer movie... seriously just 2 hours of some guy going crazy with his chainsaw ripping the crap out of people. Done in POV so you can watch the kill counter tick over, the movie would be so pointless but oh so funny LOL.
 

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Acaroid said:
I want a khan the betrayer movie... seriously just 2 hours of some guy going crazy with his chainsaw ripping the crap out of people. Done in POV so you can watch the kill counter tick over, the movie would be so pointless but oh so funny LOL.
I know there's a battle where he earns his name as "The betrayer" when he runs around burning the people he's fighting along with the World Eaters and Emperor's Children legions at some point, maybe the movie can be on that battle. I think for the most part he's armed with a plasma pistol and a chain axe named "Gorechild".
 

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monkeypants said:
awwwwh i want a tau movie :(
I rather like to see a Ork movie, it'd be one part bloody thirsty and one part funny as hell considering how the Ork's behave.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
The animation team behind the DC Animated Universe, or the guys who made the 2D cutscenes for Dantes Inferno fit the bill.
I think they'd have to burn the midnight oil to make their strengths work in the hell-house of 40K aesthetic design, but works for me.

dalek sec said:
Just wondering but is there a certain style or series of anime you'd like to see a 40K series done in?
Specifically? No. But allow me to expand; I don't think conventional film styles will/can do justice to 40K, it's not Star Wars and breaking its back over the altar of SHAKYCAMACTIONOMG will cause me to bite through my DVD player. 40K action is a martial arts movie, but with armies instead of individual people. It's choreographed and it's quirky and it should hold no pretensions to reality. A lot of the premise is based on people very pointedly not doing things the easy or sensible way. The current depictions of 40K, visually, don't mesh with the content and canon on anything but a still-frame level. It's too... visually hectic. A good 40K still-frame art is something you stare at for a few minutes to fully comprehend. 70 minutes of all that visual noise would just piss me off. Watch for it in 'Ultramrines', they'll either cut out the bullshit and look under-polished, or add it all in and look clumsy.

So you can either bite the bullet, give it to M.Bay (or another student of the 'Action Is Loud And Fast' film-school) and watch him completely miss the point of taking things over the top... or you can give it to the arts crowd and watch them roll out spectacular visual set-pieces without ever touching on the sensual brutality of the universe. Either way you're going to get seventy minutes of one tiny slice of the massive pie that is 40K.

That's why I think Anime has potential. It will never aim to capture everything at once, but the nature of the medium lends itself to quantity. It can do the impossible with regularity and it pins all of the enjoyment in the meaning of a scene, not the visuals. You lose the skulls all over the armor, but you wouldn't need them. Anime would very neatly reduce the equation of a 40K film into some simple variables. Is your writer good? Is your director good? Are your actors good? Past that, you never had any pretensions to completeness past preset art direction.

Unless you have the budget to do 'everything ever at once and with all the bits included', I don't think I want to see what half of that can buy.

I think the weight of a scene should be in what's happening, not what it looks like. And in order to reduce 40K to something manageable without gutting it, the... controlled elegance of animation fits the bill.

It all comes down to what story you're telling.
 

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Leave the anime to the Tau.

Heres an interesting thought. Since all the 40K races have their own distinct artistic style, play with that, so that you have anime Tau fighting realistic guardsmen, vs the ungodly abominations of chaos.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Leave the anime to the Tau.

Heres an interesting thought. Since all the 40K races have their own distinct artistic style, play with that, so that you have anime Tau fighting realistic guardsmen, vs the ungodly abominations of chaos.
That sounds kinda interesting, what would you do artistic wise for say Chaos factions or something like the Necrons?
 

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dalek sec said:
Acaroid said:
I want a khan the betrayer movie... seriously just 2 hours of some guy going crazy with his chainsaw ripping the crap out of people. Done in POV so you can watch the kill counter tick over, the movie would be so pointless but oh so funny LOL.
I know there's a battle where he earns his name as "The betrayer" when he runs around burning the people he's fighting along with the World Eaters and Emperor's Children legions at some point, maybe the movie can be on that battle. I think for the most part he's armed with a plasma pistol and a chain axe named "Gorechild".
LOL I meant to put in chainaxe, wooops
I remember one of the white dwarfs I had, it had this story in it about khan from his POV. I think it might have been a bunch of khorne attacking a slaanesh temple.

But really you couldn't have much of a story with a character like khan, because he is so twisted and screwed up his whole motivation is "EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING MUST DIE"
 

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TimeLord said:
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Why is it always Ultramarines?, Black Templars dammit!
Imperial Fist Dammit!
I dont think having a movie about White Supremecists (Black Templars) or about a chapter who are into self-mutilation and get pleasure out of pain (Imperial Fists) are going to be movie material. The Ultramarines are not too out of control compared to other chapters and can be adapted as a simple "BY THE BOOK" (in the best Colonel Tigh voice i can do) chapter.

Honestly im still hoping for an Inquisitor CRPG and an Einsenhorn movie.
 

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The Disk Thrower said:
scumofsociety said:
Ultrajoe said:
Personal Wish - Weeaboo-stamp me all you want, but I think 40K belongs in the realm of Anime. As a series, not a feature.
Animated I could totally understand. Anime I would give a very wide berth. Same with a series.
I'm with Ultra on this one, Granted I am not the most knowledgeable on this subject by far

but I make it a point to know enough about stuff to talk in some kind of detail, and if not, them I'm tired

either way

Anime would lend itself to 40K,

Not all Anime is big breasted, Etc..

and it just makes more sense than trying to push 40K into a 70 minutes, when you can put it into season(s) or what-have-you
I dont think anime would do it justice. Anime, even the darkest and gritty animation still looks too clean for 40K. I mean, 40K needs to have a village of defenceless people and children being butchered as an uplifting moment for Imperial Authority. :) Man i love WH40K.