Do you really not see that you're missing the point? Piracy is going to happen regardless, but why is the ratio so bad? Because legitimate gamers, like the guy above, would not buy it under the model they had. So 50 pirates to 50 paying customers is 1:1 but 50 pirates to 25 paying customers is 2:1. You can whine about piracy, but the piracy ratio can mean that the amount of pirates stays static but you have done nothing to encourage legitimate gamers.J. Mazarin said:
"Unbelievably High" Android Piracy Drives Dev to Free-To-Play
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No, piracy happens whether a game is worth it or not. People think "do want" and take what they can.Elate said:
Shareware is still gone on the PC. The Google Play store, which sells apps for android phones, not PCs, is primarily Shareware based. There's no disconnect there. The only flawed logic here is a dev thinking he can get away with completely skipping out on the shareware model when all his competitors are using it or a variation of it.SecondPrize said:
Popularity has led the game to make more money free to play than it did by selling it. Seems that the advertising worked.Buretsu said:
Just because it was pirated doesn't mean that they would have paid for it provided piracy was not an option. Piracy does not equal a lost sale. Pirates are not, nor were ever, customers. People who buy your product are your customers. Everyone else is a non issue.
Gonna have to agree with this one. It's one thing when people get shot in the foot for charging retail price for a digital game, but a fucking dollar? Come on, people.Buretsu said:
It doesn't matter how you want to word the argument. You are enjoying a product that has an asking price without having the common courtesy of paying. The only argument against it being stealing lies in silly semantics; in all other interpretations it counts as stealing.Elate said:
But, in an effort to avoid inflammatory rhetoric, suffice it to say that if you're going to pirate, do yourself a favor and don't lie about what you're doing to others - save such rationalizations for yourself. The only people who buy the argument are pirates.
In this case it is especially serious considering just how little I can purchase for a dollar. A complete list would include a few small and barely edible food stuffs, small bits of candy, or enough gas to propel my car 8 miles. Such a sum of money is so very trivial that I am honestly baffled when people refuse to do so. To put it in perspective, in order to be cost effective, I'd have to locate a legitimate pirate copy of such a product and perform any necessary steps to make an illegitimate copy work in a scant few minutes in order to actually "save" anything.
Haha, Sheeple. You sound like a unique radical free-thinker just like the endless hoard of other jobless teenagers living with their parents who spend their days posting on the internet. Logic cannot be easy or false. You have a long way to go before you will begin to sound more intelligent that a single cell life form. I wish you well on your quest to be taken seriously.ZippyDSMlee said:
Where is the line? well Jim's position on this pretty much sums it up for me.Kwil said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5342-When-Piracy-Becomes-Theft
i blame inconvenience.
i wanted to buy an app for 1 dollar (or something along these lines) i really did.
turned out, google market (or play, or whatever you want to call it) doesnt accept paypal. it also doesnt accept iDeal. it doesnt accept ANY payment option that i have access to.
see, im from europa, here - pretty much noone has those credit cards.
still, i really wanted to buy that app. there was a way around, i could buy myself a prepaid "visa account" for only 10% extra (meaning get 9 euro for 10 euro - great deal!)
also, it expired in 3 months, i could not charge it (meaning SOME money would always be left behind, unless i bought something for exactly 9 euro)
but i bought that app.
it took me half an hour.
meanwhile, googling the file would take me about 1 minute.
meaning, spend half an hour for privilege of paying money, or do the hard way of 1 minute search for a free option. you see how this could potentially go wrong?
i dont try to justify piracy, but i can see thats its EASIER to pirate than to go "the legal way". so dont expect everyone to do the "right thing".
i wanted to buy an app for 1 dollar (or something along these lines) i really did.
turned out, google market (or play, or whatever you want to call it) doesnt accept paypal. it also doesnt accept iDeal. it doesnt accept ANY payment option that i have access to.
see, im from europa, here - pretty much noone has those credit cards.
still, i really wanted to buy that app. there was a way around, i could buy myself a prepaid "visa account" for only 10% extra (meaning get 9 euro for 10 euro - great deal!)
also, it expired in 3 months, i could not charge it (meaning SOME money would always be left behind, unless i bought something for exactly 9 euro)
but i bought that app.
it took me half an hour.
meanwhile, googling the file would take me about 1 minute.
meaning, spend half an hour for privilege of paying money, or do the hard way of 1 minute search for a free option. you see how this could potentially go wrong?
i dont try to justify piracy, but i can see thats its EASIER to pirate than to go "the legal way". so dont expect everyone to do the "right thing".
Clicking a torrent and getting something for free will always be more appealing to most people, than paying any amount of money for that same product. There's no use arguing how trivial $1 seems to you--they just don't care. Free > $1.
Having a soul is hard when the internet makes it easy not to, lol. Not to mention the porn! Sweet, sweet porn.
Having a soul is hard when the internet makes it easy not to, lol. Not to mention the porn! Sweet, sweet porn.
copying software is not theftShadowsetzer said:
theft is taking something someone has so they no longer have it
in your candy-bar instance, stealing it is physically removing it, so the store cannot then sell it to anyone
(* guaranteeing lost profits )
'copying it' would be taking a picture of one's ingredients in a store and making your own at home whilst that wouldn't be encouraged i can see no way that it is illegal
(* even though it may logically reduce profits of the store by not being able to specifically sell an item to You, the item is still available to sell to someone else )
* monetary difference to the store.
so what is the issue?:
copying software is an intellectual property violation
as it's physical representation has obviously been reproduced with different materials
( ie, reproducing it to a cd or your hard-drive ect. ) it is impossible to be victim of 'theft'
if it weren't reproduced, then there is no instance of copyright infringement by definition
my personal interpretation is;
you are purchasing a license to experience a copy downloaded to your brain via an electronic device
following that logic seems to be the easiest way to avoid the theft/copyright infringement weirdness
( this is basically how dd's like steam work, everything is tied to your account in a
one-user-licence arrangement )
