United states to close Youtube
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So basically, the government & big businesses wanted to find the easiest way to sue as many middle & lower class people as possible so that they'd be the only citizens with any money at all, & when the American economy finally collapses, the rich bastards would flee to Europe & Australia to continue their reign of destruction & evil. Is that what you're trying to tell me?
Basically, the US has proposed, as an international framework, this ACTA.
It is not as simple as just youtube.
It allows ex parte investigations of computer/property to investigate copywrite infringement (you are not required to even know if they have entered your computer, and possibly house, in regard to infringement investigations).
It assumes any encrypted packet is a possible infringement, and ISP's will be forced to snoop every packet to avoid possible liability.
It allows for the ACTA appointed bodies to prosecute copywrite/intellectual property infringements without the CW/IP holder filing a complaint or even aware of such infringement.
The fact that all the individuals involved in the drafting and voting in of this agreement were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement should tell you all you need to know about their intentions. This could have a profound influence of the use of "fair use" in relation to distribution of information through social networking and independent media organizations.
Just a side note, how many here realize that the EU (one of their internal bodies) tried to patent the idea of the progress bar so as to sue, on behalf of certain OS makers, any open-source project using one?
It is not as simple as just youtube.
It allows ex parte investigations of computer/property to investigate copywrite infringement (you are not required to even know if they have entered your computer, and possibly house, in regard to infringement investigations).
It assumes any encrypted packet is a possible infringement, and ISP's will be forced to snoop every packet to avoid possible liability.
It allows for the ACTA appointed bodies to prosecute copywrite/intellectual property infringements without the CW/IP holder filing a complaint or even aware of such infringement.
The fact that all the individuals involved in the drafting and voting in of this agreement were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement should tell you all you need to know about their intentions. This could have a profound influence of the use of "fair use" in relation to distribution of information through social networking and independent media organizations.
Just a side note, how many here realize that the EU (one of their internal bodies) tried to patent the idea of the progress bar so as to sue, on behalf of certain OS makers, any open-source project using one?
Bullfart! If the united states goverment try to disasemble youtube won't yet another site just like it arise from the ashes? will not Megavideo, Veoh and thousands of other sites provide our thirst for internett video? Ney, thou cannot ban film from the world wide web because we shall always prevail and find new ways to watch! the once so secure internett used by the military is gone, thou shall no longer controll it! Let it be filled with music, crap and porn! for that is the fundation of the internett! That is what we want and that is what we are paying for! If we lose youtube, then my friends we lose or freedom of speech!
we shall not let this evil pravail! I say we prepare to kick ass and makre ready weapon "CN"
Youtube is ours and none will find it an easy taking
we shall not let this evil pravail! I say we prepare to kick ass and makre ready weapon "CN"
Youtube is ours and none will find it an easy taking
If this is true, and it succeeds, I'll be extremely pissed off, and I don't even live in the US. The reason being, I have my own videos on Youtube that basically take game footage and splice it with music to make my own music videos. And I know this is blowing my own horn, but seriously, the later videos I've done are much better than most you'll find on Youtube and are extremely good quality work. The first few I posted, when I was still getting into editing, aren't that good, but the last few are excellent:
http://www.youtube.com/crispymongoose
But the point is, several of my videos have been tagged as using copyright footage. The companies concerned (two, the managers behind Evanescence and for some strange reason someone who thinks Vivaldi's work is copyright) are happy for my videos to stay there, they just have advertisements placed on them for the music. If this bill goes through, I basically lose all of my hard work and effort, at least to US viewers. This will not be a good thing. Fine, it won't make too much difference to me overall, but it's the principle that counts, right?
That said, it would seem that whoever is behnd this law has never heard of the idea of 'Fair Use'...?
http://www.youtube.com/crispymongoose
But the point is, several of my videos have been tagged as using copyright footage. The companies concerned (two, the managers behind Evanescence and for some strange reason someone who thinks Vivaldi's work is copyright) are happy for my videos to stay there, they just have advertisements placed on them for the music. If this bill goes through, I basically lose all of my hard work and effort, at least to US viewers. This will not be a good thing. Fine, it won't make too much difference to me overall, but it's the principle that counts, right?
That said, it would seem that whoever is behnd this law has never heard of the idea of 'Fair Use'...?
I never really saw the point of objecting to this. If you've done nothing wrong, then don't worry about it. Even if they went into your house. If they didn't take any of my things and just looked on my computer (Didn't delete any files) I wouldn't care.ctrl-alt-postal said:
Only as long as its the Gov't.
But if they start taking my shit, I will be riotting in front of the White House, PRONTO!
First America is saying China sould stop censoring the internet and then they try to censor youtube.
America=hypocrite
America=hypocrite
First of all, YouTube is not remotely profitable.
Second, whenever stuff like this passes it invariably gets struck down once it is seriously challenged in court. That's how the system works.
Second, whenever stuff like this passes it invariably gets struck down once it is seriously challenged in court. That's how the system works.
Well, within 15 min of posting this, I am reading an article about mw2 and dedicated servers (or lack thereof)..... http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=5890 There be an embedded youtube vid showing how quickly cheating is occuring in the mw2 P2P community. It is removed due to copywrite infringement.
Now I don't know if this video shows how to cheat or not, (as I cannot view it and it is a secondary issue) but I find it interesting that they choose to remove a vid which is obviously being used within a fair use context, showing that the quality of a product has been compromised by the decision not to have dedicated servers, instead relying on unregulated P2P networks.
Now I don't know if this video shows how to cheat or not, (as I cannot view it and it is a secondary issue) but I find it interesting that they choose to remove a vid which is obviously being used within a fair use context, showing that the quality of a product has been compromised by the decision not to have dedicated servers, instead relying on unregulated P2P networks.
If they enter your house without warrant or notice, have they not already taken your right to privacy?? Or presumption of innocence and right to rebuttal?Mrsnugglesworth said:
This type of thing makes me sad. The internet is like to worlds bordertown, anything and everything is permitted. If these things are allowed to happen we will lose our bordertown our sanctuary to whatever we want. With increasing technology and restrictions like these the world could and probably will become more like George Orwell's 1984. It probably wont ever get that bad but you never know.
But i'm in Australia so i have no direct problem, for now
But i'm in Australia so i have no direct problem, for now
The problem is virtually no one is actually breaking the rules.HUBILUB said:
Like if someone uses a sound clip from a song or movie in a sort video they make, even if they don't profit off it at all, they are accused of "copyright infringement" even though they are well within their rights of fair use.
And parodies are extremely well protected, this is merely a massive case of FRAUD as copyright owners ABUSE the wording of the DMCA.
Trust me, this won't just crush youtube, this will crush whatever tries to replace youtube, this is TERRIBLE and will affect everyone.
I'm having a hard time believing this as for one it's not copy and pasted as there are way too many errors in the print... so until proof is provided whatever. =\
Well, it was only one link. And it did lead somewhere.historybuff said:
Anyways, I fixed the link to the article rather than the main page where it was the first item once.
You feel free to call BS, I call it as I see it....
Yeah, for instance they completely screwed Thatguywiththeglasses over even though he was protected by law. Luckily he has his own site. The same may not apply to others trying to get out of the "internet-ghetto" as I call it. Like me for instance...Treblaine said:
You can't close youtube: at this point hasn't it evolved into a hive-minded super entity of some sort?
Good luck to those who try to bring it down anyway.
Good luck to those who try to bring it down anyway.
Wait, it's possible to download things from Youtube? Since when?
Either way, copyright is made to prevent illegal SALES of copyrighted things. With Youtube, people aren't selling, they're sharing, and last I checked there wasn't a law saying it's illegal for someone to, say, lend you one of their anime DVDs so you can watch it.
Either way, copyright is made to prevent illegal SALES of copyrighted things. With Youtube, people aren't selling, they're sharing, and last I checked there wasn't a law saying it's illegal for someone to, say, lend you one of their anime DVDs so you can watch it.