Unskippable: Final Fantasy 13
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I know how bad it is, but I'm buying it anyway once I get a new console.
I'm certain it's better than XII. That game was disastrous.
I'm certain it's better than XII. That game was disastrous.
Love it as always. But damn that makes me want to play the game.... now if only I had the game... or a PS3... or a TV... huh...
I couldn't put up with hours of that. My decision hinged on whether I thought the dialogue/story would be interesting. That cutscene was cringeworthy. Call me small minded if you will, I just don't want to spend time with those characters.LightspeedJack said:
Its a sad type of game that requires that you have the Final Fantasy Wiki open on your laptop while you're playing it so that you can have any kind of idea who these characters are, who they're fighting, what they're fighting for, and where the heck they're supposed to be.
By the way, who builds a city out of nothing but bridges and green fog?
By the way, who builds a city out of nothing but bridges and green fog?
After watching this video I'm beginning to see the minimalist's approach as a long forgotten utopia. It's like writing a text composed entirely of all the nice, shiny adjectives you can find.
These games are more random than stray bullets.
These games are more random than stray bullets.
It took me about 10-15 hours to figure out what was going on (uh, sort of...?). That is really not good. It took me maybe ~30 minutes to get the general idea of, say, Mass Effect.
It took me about five minutes to HATE EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. (Exclusion: I did not hate Lightning when she punched Snow in the face.)
The characters all just looove to spout terrible clichés at any given moment. For example, one of the worst ones:
Annoying *****-kid called "Hope" sits down, sighs and says "There's no hope."
Bitchy hot-girl called "Lightning" turns around and says "There's always you..."
...At that point, I made a spastic flail with my arm and hit myself in the head with the controller and screamed out loud at the incompetence of the "writers" for this bullshit. (Or maybe it was the pain of hitting myself with the controller. Maybe a bit of both.)
You pretty much do three (four?) things in FFXIII:
1. Run around in linear corridors that are so linear I'm almost insulted they even give me a minimap (I seriously don't see how I could get lost here), where you either dodge monsters or poke on things.
2. Teleport into "fight mode" where you fiddle with a menu system to assign for yourself to heal your retarded team members who have a tendency of dying a lot, and in between that, tickle the monsters with your massive gun-blade-thing.
3. Stare at in-game cutscenes where everyone bitches a lot and spout clichés.
(4. Stare at pre-rendered cutscenes (which are really pretty) where cool stuff happens that you are never allowed to play.)
Mind you, Final Fantasy 13 does not automatically turn into an RPG by there being some sort of levelling system in the same fashion that I do not automatically become a car by standing in a garage.
(I actually survived playing past Bartholomew or whatever that boss was called. Then I shouted "Fuck this shit!", stood up and traded in FFXIII at GameStop for Splinter Cell: Conviction.)
It took me about five minutes to HATE EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. (Exclusion: I did not hate Lightning when she punched Snow in the face.)
The characters all just looove to spout terrible clichés at any given moment. For example, one of the worst ones:
Annoying *****-kid called "Hope" sits down, sighs and says "There's no hope."
Bitchy hot-girl called "Lightning" turns around and says "There's always you..."
...At that point, I made a spastic flail with my arm and hit myself in the head with the controller and screamed out loud at the incompetence of the "writers" for this bullshit. (Or maybe it was the pain of hitting myself with the controller. Maybe a bit of both.)
You pretty much do three (four?) things in FFXIII:
1. Run around in linear corridors that are so linear I'm almost insulted they even give me a minimap (I seriously don't see how I could get lost here), where you either dodge monsters or poke on things.
2. Teleport into "fight mode" where you fiddle with a menu system to assign for yourself to heal your retarded team members who have a tendency of dying a lot, and in between that, tickle the monsters with your massive gun-blade-thing.
3. Stare at in-game cutscenes where everyone bitches a lot and spout clichés.
(4. Stare at pre-rendered cutscenes (which are really pretty) where cool stuff happens that you are never allowed to play.)
Mind you, Final Fantasy 13 does not automatically turn into an RPG by there being some sort of levelling system in the same fashion that I do not automatically become a car by standing in a garage.
(I actually survived playing past Bartholomew or whatever that boss was called. Then I shouted "Fuck this shit!", stood up and traded in FFXIII at GameStop for Splinter Cell: Conviction.)
There are of course Sci-Fi elements; A bullet train suspended in the air? Totally Sci-Fi. But to claim the entire thing is steeped in Sci-Fi with no element of fantasy is categorically incorrect. It presumes all Fantasy is "High Fantasy" which is, distilled to it's most quintessential elements, just Lord of the Rings derivatives.Akalistos said:
How exactly would you propose a game like this engage the player in any other way? It provides them with all the information they need after just a few hours of gameplay; all questions bar a few plot inconsistencies are answered, and all the incredibly basic concepts explained. It's really not a particularly difficult plot to follow once you get a few hours into the game. If you weren't engaged by the story then that's your experience with the game; and if you can explain why you weren't engaged after a few hours through none-subjective arguments I'd be happy to hear - otherwise it's just not your type of game.Akalistos said:
Again, how exactly could they do it any other way? The game explains all you need to know after a few hours; references all key locations, and personnel from time to time and remind you of past events; and if you miss anything there is the data-log (which you shouldn't have to use to understand the story). If they'd had the characters out-right explain everything straight away there would not only be an information over-load; there'd be no meaning or anything for the player to base this information around. They are told what's occurring as it does, and the significant of that event becomes apparent to them soon enough. The exposition isn't the best - the dialogue is extremely poorly written, but the player is told what's going on.
Name me a high-profile RPG this generation that hasn't got a padded out plot...the fact that the game slowly reveals the characters to the player, and how they adapt to the situation is well done, even if they're cliché (such as Hope). Each area offers new characterization or information to the player; they each have their specific purpose.
This I don't follow; a "believable" world is completely subjective; but I felt the world itself was well-done, and immersive, despite the linearity.
How long did you play if you really didn't understand the terms the game used? There's nothing overly complex bar the history of the game-world (and that's because there's a lot to recall) and possibly, if you didn't follow the storyline fully, the Fai'ci's motivation.
Better is subjective. All the "flaws" you've pointed out are subjective. If you really didn't like the game then good for you, don't play it. However, you haven't actually pointed out anything objectively wrong with the game in your impressively poorly written rant.
I must admit, the first few hours are very confusing, and they never properly explain the terms to you (what the hell is a l'Cie?), or they wait forever to do so. Still enjoyed the game though.
Those were my thoughts too. Aside from a few minor details and the train fight, it was almost identical to how Final Fantasy VII started. Of course, the difference is that back when FF7 was released, the unique mixture of fantasy/steampunk/science-fiction was something unique and a refreshing change for the series. By now, however, it has become completely standard.riottrio said:
Also, am I the only one who finds it ironic how often Final Fantasy games are accused of including teenage angst, yet most of the characters aren't actually teenagers? If you take FF7 as an example, the only character in her teens is Yuffie and even she is a completely optional character.
Oh yeah right, I forgot about that. Well whatever, Bounty or Wanted Level they still must've had like a million stars on it for them to bust out the giant flying scorpion mech-thing whatever.Akalistos said:
