UPDATED: Wisconsin preteen girls seek to invoke Slender Man: Stab a 12 year old friend 19 times

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AntiChri5 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Am I the only one who's awed at the fact she survived 19 stab wounds?
No, you are not.

Either the wanna be murderers are as inept as they are warped or that little girl is fucking tough. Maybe both.

But at least pretty much any turn her life takes is an improvement from here.
on the plus side she can now win any argument with the words "well i survived being stabbed 19 times so fuck you."

there is no comeback for that.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Am I the only one who's awed at the fact she survived 19 stab wounds?
Julius Caesar sees your 19 stabs, and raises you a 22. (Only one of the 23 was fatal)


OT: For some reason, this is completely unsurprising. There are always going to be those stupid, murderous people, adult or children, who think that trying to kill other people out of the blue for any reason is a good idea. At least nobody was killed this time.
 

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This is just sad. Like everyone else here I was a pre-teen once. I had my share of fantasies and adventures that where all fake. I played games like Mortal Combat and watched shows like Family guy and Futurama since when I was 11. My parents decided that rather than assume I was maturing and could tell the difference between fantasy and reality. They decided to make sure I knew the difference. One summer weekend my dad took my brother and I to grandpas house deep in the Wisconsin wilderness and said I'm teaching you how to shoot today. We spend 2 day learning about guns, gun safety, proper operations, cleaning and how to shoot. Before we could touch a gun he repeatedly said "This is not a toy" and showed us how dangerous a gun really is on a thawed turkey. If I couldn't separate reality from fantasy before that day, the exploding turkey hammered the difference home. My point is my parents decided that rather than take the chance they took the time to spend with me not only having a fun time, but ensuring I was growing up correctly. It's so easy now a days for parents to not interact with their kids much. Then when the kid does something wrong is easier to point the finger at the media or elsewhere and blame someone else. Taking the time to spend with your kids and teaching is what kids today really need. And it wasn't easy for my parents to find the time wither. My parents divorced when I was 8, dad lived 1 hour away and mom worked 2 jobs nights and weekends. But they still found the time for my bother and I.
 

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generals3 said:
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Any child that commits an atrocity because "the internet" or "tv" belongs in a mental institution. As simple as that.
Yes because children are known for the ability to think things through, properly .Hell we don't even trust teenagers to do that.
Well, even a child can think things through a bit. If your child has reached the level cruelty that it cannot see stabbing someone is wrong either the parents are horrible or that child needs to be under constant psychiatric supervision because something is definitely wrong with its brain's wiring. There are things i'm willing to forgive to children because "kids be kids", but stabbing someone 19 times? No, that's just too much.
Except they are bombarded with media where people get stabbed and are fine. If their goal was to kill the girl the they would have. Eitherway, even if they did, children don't have a proper understanding of death. Again, teenagers do dangerous shit all the time , because they think they are invincible , the unlucky ones die.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, but there is a difference in a 12 year old mentality and a 24 year olds mentality. They probably thought she would be fine afterwards.
 

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I don't buy it. I was younger than that and played FPS games like Blood and Sin (two incredibly violent games) and my favourite Indiana Jones movie was Temple of Doom and I always knew it was fiction. I knew the difference between fantasy and reality. I knew what was right and what was wrong. So why didn't these girls? Parenting perhaps? Or a lack there of? That would be my first thought.
I believe it as well. When I was there age, maybe even a bit older, I thought by playing Mirrors Edge I could learn actual parkour and tried it. Almost breaking my arm in the process (granted it's a less extreme case, mine was, it still goes to show something fake could make you think it was real)

OP; I think it was terrible. I just-can't fathom how these girls could think a fake creature...thing like slenderman could be real just baffles me. And that they'd kill someone-their own friend- to gain his approval? That's even worse.

I have no words. I really don't.
 

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Except they are bombarded with media where people get stabbed and are fine. If their goal was to kill the girl the they would have. Eitherway, even if they did, children don't have a proper understanding of death. Again, teenagers do dangerous shit all the time , because they think they are invincible , the unlucky ones die.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, but there is a difference in a 12 year old mentality and a 24 year olds mentality. They probably thought she would be fine afterwards.
Not an excuse, there are millions of children who get bombarded by the same media but don't commit premeditated attempted murders. And i don't think you'll find a lot of movies/series showing people surviving 19 stabbing wounds if anything except for the main protagonist and main villain people tend to fall easier than they do in reality in the media.

And there is a difference between people testing their own luck by doing dangerous stupid stunts and stabbing someone.

What they did here is an act of extreme cruelty. A normal child should be able to understand this to be wrong.
 

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generals3 said:
krazykidd said:
Except they are bombarded with media where people get stabbed and are fine. If their goal was to kill the girl the they would have. Eitherway, even if they did, children don't have a proper understanding of death. Again, teenagers do dangerous shit all the time , because they think they are invincible , the unlucky ones die.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, but there is a difference in a 12 year old mentality and a 24 year olds mentality. They probably thought she would be fine afterwards.
Not an excuse, there are millions of children who get bombarded by the same media but don't commit premeditated attempted murders. And i don't think you'll find a lot of movies/series showing people surviving 19 stabbing wounds if anything except for the main protagonist and main villain people tend to fall easier than they do in reality in the media.

And there is a difference between people testing their own luck by doing dangerous stupid stunts and stabbing someone.

What they did here is an act of extreme cruelty. A normal child should be able to understand this to be wrong.
Except their logic wasn't " let's murder this girl", but " let's summon slenderman". Their intent wasn't to murder somebody. If they thought the needed to throw daisies at someone, that's what they would hav done. They were using children logic ( where they most likely thought no one would get hurt , let alone die).

It was an act of cruelty, and should be punished, but they were just dumb kids.
 

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I heard about this yesterday since I live about 20 miles away from the area. Fucking stupid. Hell, I even drove by that park the day before, and even recognize the cops handling the case from their handling of various crimes at the local library and such. That's not how the slenderman mythos goes though, and it's a pretty damn poor excuse for psychopathy. At least one needs to go to Waukesha Mental Health Center pronto.
 

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krazykidd said:
generals3 said:
krazykidd said:
Except they are bombarded with media where people get stabbed and are fine. If their goal was to kill the girl the they would have. Eitherway, even if they did, children don't have a proper understanding of death. Again, teenagers do dangerous shit all the time , because they think they are invincible , the unlucky ones die.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, but there is a difference in a 12 year old mentality and a 24 year olds mentality. They probably thought she would be fine afterwards.
Not an excuse, there are millions of children who get bombarded by the same media but don't commit premeditated attempted murders. And i don't think you'll find a lot of movies/series showing people surviving 19 stabbing wounds if anything except for the main protagonist and main villain people tend to fall easier than they do in reality in the media.

And there is a difference between people testing their own luck by doing dangerous stupid stunts and stabbing someone.

What they did here is an act of extreme cruelty. A normal child should be able to understand this to be wrong.
Except their logic wasn't " let's murder this girl", but " let's summon slenderman". Their intent wasn't to murder somebody. If they thought the needed to throw daisies at someone, that's what they would hav done. They were using children logic ( where they most likely thought no one would get hurt , let alone die).

It was an act of cruelty, and should be punished, but they were just dumb kids.
If they thought that someone they stabbed 19 times wouldn't get hurt, they need to be locked the fuck up just as much as if they were intending to kill her.
 

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I really don't understand how anyone can blame this horrendous crime on anyone except the clearly psychotic and disturbed preteen girls.

Slenderman is old news (he has his own video game, for f***'s sake) and this is just evidence that there are far too many unsupervised kids being exposed to content that they cannot handle or easily distinguish as fiction and not reality.

A large population of the gaming community was around when Super Mario Bros., Doom, Wolfenstien, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat, and Custard's Revenge was a thing and all that it has done to most of them is to develop a strong admiration to an entertainment medium that was not widely regarded as viable for a majority of its existence.

People need to seriously grow a pair of whatever makes them take charge of serious situations like this and either institutionalize mentally unstable kids like these two and never allow them back into society again or, to avoid any risk, lobotomize them and avoid all the danger. I know it's extreme, but seriously, we have to make a stand that crazy is dangerous and if they are not kept in check, more innocent people are going to pay the price for their mental instabilities.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Slender Man was found in an old 1950s-60s photo. Possibly doctored. It became a huge thing on 4chan, and it got its own meme.
It was created by a Something Awful forum member in 2009. This isn't even a case of something having unknown origins: it's well documented that Slender Man was created from whole cloth by an individual on the internet. Believing he may be real or that his origins are any more mysterious than that is a simple google search away from being completely debunked.
 

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Lucky she survived. Y'know when something bad happens you can often point out a few things going wrong in succession that caused it? This is that times [insert an absurdly large figure]. Reminds me of the girls from The Crucible (excluding Abigail).

Could someone also explain just *how* can they be charged as adults and face 65 years in prison? That's almost more effed up than the act itself!
 

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So they went to kill their friend so it would summon Slender Man to come molest them and make them disappear forever?

It doesn't really sound like they thought that plan through. Why would you want to invoke Slender Man?
my thoughts exactly

what the fuck were these girls thinking, attempting to murder a friend is bad enough but to do it to summon a monster known to kill and/or kidnap people and molest kids they failed to do their research..
one does not want to meet slendy EVER!

what was their next plan? pull off a bank heist to summon pedobear?
 

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I think the scariest thing is that one of the girls said she had no remorse for what they did. Apparently this was something they've been planning for about three months.Also, I have to give my respect for someone who was stabbed 19 times and still crawled her way to help.
 

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It doesn't matter how much a parent tells a kid that something is not real. A child's imagination is a powerful thing and no amount of saying it's not real will change that.
 

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okay read the articals yea... at least one of the two is bloody insane she claims that slenderman speaks to her through dreams and she can teleport...
 

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Even so, I can't wrap my head around such a thing like this. I knew better than this back before I attended kindergarten.
Same. But then again, one of my earliest memories is from kindergarten, when, during a visit to the park, kids climbed a tree and girls tried to lure me there with some fruit, while the guys on the tree were waiting with a brick to drop on my head. Nothing happened, but where they got such an idea is beyond me.

In the end, it's always the shitty parenting, it doesn't take long to implant onto your child "you shouldn't hurt people", it's basic stuff.
 

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Fox12 said:
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Apparently, Slendy isn't public domain :(

From the wikipedia entry:

Despite his legendary qualities, the Slender Man is not in the public domain. Several profit-making ventures involving him have unequivocally acknowledged the user Eric "Victor Surge" Knudsen as the creator of this fictional character, and several more have been legally blocked from distribution (including the Kickstarter-funded film) after legal complaints from various sources. Though Knudsen himself has given his personal blessing to a number of Slender Man-related projects, it is complicated by the fact that, while he is the character's creator, a third party holds the options to any adaptations into other media, including film and television. The identity of this option holder has not been made public
I dunno how it works out but curses .-.

SOURCE: http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/slender-man-meme-marble-hornets-movie-origins/
Wait, what? How does this happen? Did he sign away the rights? Forget, American copyright law is stupid, I don't even want to know.

Vrach said:
Copper Zen said:
Even so, I can't wrap my head around such a thing like this. I knew better than this back before I attended kindergarten.
Same. But then again, one of my earliest memories is from kindergarten, when, during a visit to the park, kids climbed a tree and girls tried to lure me there with some fruit, while the guys on the tree were waiting with a brick to drop on my head. Nothing happened, but where they got such an idea is beyond me.

In the end, it's always the shitty parenting, it doesn't take long to implant onto your child "you shouldn't hurt people", it's basic stuff.
That's some Lord of the Flies shit right there. We need to retire the idea of childhood innocence. Children are evil little monsters, society makes them better.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Am I the only one who's awed at the fact she survived 19 stab wounds?
Honestly, it depends where the wounds were and how deep they were. People can survive a dozen bullets at close range provided that those bullets miss major organs and the like. Usually when someone gets attacked so thoroughly, there's one or two specific injuries that do the killing, and the rest are basically painful window dressing. For example, one strong, well-aimed stab to the kidneys will kill you, because a huge amount of blood goes through your kidneys constantly for cleaning, so you'll bleed out really quickly. But if that's what you're trying to do and you miss the kidney even by a little, you'll hit the organ's protective fascia instead, and the bleeding will be far, far slower. All it takes is nineteen misses or near misses and you'll live. You'll be in horrible shape, and you'll need to get to help, but you'll live.

So, yes, it IS impressive that she survived nineteen stab wounds, because she had to power through that much pain and damage to get to help. But it isn't surprising, exactly.