Upskirt Danger Caused Sex Change in Ico's The Last Guardian
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Bwuahahahhaha I'd love to play a japanese game with that in it XD.JoshGod said:
On Topic: Really...whats wrong with putting a girl in pants, explain to me, IN DETAIL, like super detail, give me reasons and sources to back it up, Why, a woman, can't wear, A DAMN PAIR OF PANTS.
Aw man, don't tell me that -.-
I don't care about the main character, but being told a game's been compromised for game-external reasons just.. blech, I hope knowing it was modified like that doesn't hamper enjoying it when it comes out, it's happened to me before -.-
Also, wow, stereotyping's alive and well I see, and on all fronts at that
'Would've thought a news-list reporter'd be above such, though the rest's no surprise,
I don't care about the main character, but being told a game's been compromised for game-external reasons just.. blech, I hope knowing it was modified like that doesn't hamper enjoying it when it comes out, it's happened to me before -.-
Also, wow, stereotyping's alive and well I see, and on all fronts at that
'Would've thought a news-list reporter'd be above such, though the rest's no surprise,
*Note: This has to do with the overall impulse thinking here, rather than the original quote I quoted*
Wow, this topic is much more heated than when I originally left. Going by the logic of some of the posters here, I'm going to ignore the fact I have a mostly anti-skirt/dress girlfriend and say that I will not and cannot have a girlfriend in my life if she can't wear a dress/skirt at all time to symbolize that I am the stronger sex.
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I'm sorry, even as I typed that, that sounded like crazy talk. I'm going to reread the thread now and try to better understand how our awesome developer, who originally had a female lead to begin with, must have skewed views over a dress. There's another point being made here about 'why' said girl couldn't just wear pants.
Goodness, preferences on what he prefers (apparently, strongly prefers) women to wear must be sexism. And nothing else. ' -' And if that's really the logical mindset, then congrats, we now are jumping on someone with different artistic views than us. At most, some of you are just stretching what is just: "Well I'd feel 'off' if the girl wore a dress/skirt, so it's a guy now." There are way more than one reason why he switched the gender to a girl. If I felt 'off' about the main guy wearing a skirt in my game, and rather it just be a woman, does that make me sexist, or have skewed views? Or do I have preferences I'd feel better staying with. If you are an artist of any sort, reasons should be strumming in instantly. You're all Escapist members, no? Do try and actually think about the other alternatives and be a bit more open-minded for both the whole 'sexism' thing and the 'just wear pants'.
In summary, put down the pitchforks and the torches and calmly think about the positives.
Wow, this topic is much more heated than when I originally left. Going by the logic of some of the posters here, I'm going to ignore the fact I have a mostly anti-skirt/dress girlfriend and say that I will not and cannot have a girlfriend in my life if she can't wear a dress/skirt at all time to symbolize that I am the stronger sex.
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I'm sorry, even as I typed that, that sounded like crazy talk. I'm going to reread the thread now and try to better understand how our awesome developer, who originally had a female lead to begin with, must have skewed views over a dress. There's another point being made here about 'why' said girl couldn't just wear pants.
Goodness, preferences on what he prefers (apparently, strongly prefers) women to wear must be sexism. And nothing else. ' -' And if that's really the logical mindset, then congrats, we now are jumping on someone with different artistic views than us. At most, some of you are just stretching what is just: "Well I'd feel 'off' if the girl wore a dress/skirt, so it's a guy now." There are way more than one reason why he switched the gender to a girl. If I felt 'off' about the main guy wearing a skirt in my game, and rather it just be a woman, does that make me sexist, or have skewed views? Or do I have preferences I'd feel better staying with. If you are an artist of any sort, reasons should be strumming in instantly. You're all Escapist members, no? Do try and actually think about the other alternatives and be a bit more open-minded for both the whole 'sexism' thing and the 'just wear pants'.
In summary, put down the pitchforks and the torches and calmly think about the positives.
@Nekoali: Sorry, but if you got:
He's not saying that females are 'weak and can't do a thing by themselves', I mean, have you beaten Ico? I've seen weaker women. (Though that queen wore a dress/robe too~) At most, I think he's saying that the image would look much more appealing to the eyes. And hey, from an artistic perspective, it IS more endearing on the eyes to see a young girl and a powerful beast helping each other. Beauty and the Beast, anyone?
Or should we be 'correct' and have a 'Broman and the Beast' Disney short? Because I'm sure that'll have the same effect~
Out of:nekoali said:
Then you blow my mind. Not only with this logic are you suggesting that Ueda feels that little boys are all weak, but you're also making the other side of the argument look horrible. I've already explained how the gender change because of the dress issue is FINE, but lets talk about the 'balance'.Article said:
He's not saying that females are 'weak and can't do a thing by themselves', I mean, have you beaten Ico? I've seen weaker women. (Though that queen wore a dress/robe too~) At most, I think he's saying that the image would look much more appealing to the eyes. And hey, from an artistic perspective, it IS more endearing on the eyes to see a young girl and a powerful beast helping each other. Beauty and the Beast, anyone?
Or should we be 'correct' and have a 'Broman and the Beast' Disney short? Because I'm sure that'll have the same effect~
Wow, I really just agreed. XDTwilight_guy said:
I chuckled at the upskirt question. Though considering, you're probably right.ExileNZ said:
All Lara needed to get ogled was be a girl. Well, not all. I'm sure prepubescent boys wouldn't ogle her if she was 500 lbs or hairier than Sasquatch, but she was a girl, and therefore, would get their "attention."
I don't care if it is a she-male or something I just want the game to have a good story and be fun to play. Also to have an awesome cat-bird-dog thing.
Wow. Perhaps Yahtzee was right about what Team ICO thinks of women.
I think someone beat me to that. But hell if I dig through all these pages of people just saying "put her in pants".
I think someone beat me to that. But hell if I dig through all these pages of people just saying "put her in pants".