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Can they make up their minds. Last time after years of pretending to put importance in peace they found it glorious when Trump used Bush era talking points to advocate joining the war in Gaza, or use the night of the US to steal Greenland and Canada. But now they’re isolationist again?
No the US was never going to invade Greenland, it was just red meat for the base, and to scare the EU to spend more on defense. Admittedly it worked in me, but Greenland is a frozen wasteland which is too uneconomic to extract resources. Plus the people who live in Alaska aren’t exactly the happiest people so it would require people who get paid allot more to run the mines and other machinery needed to extract the rare earths. Gaza was just to get US dual citizens out of there which worked granted it worked to well in that now Israel has free rein to butcher more people there without the US holding them back thanks Dearborn Michigan, Jill Stein, and the rest of the morons who backed and yes Trump fooled me too somehow I assumed some of his Muslim influencers around him would get him to change his mind. As for isolationist, no US president is. The last time we were we got Pearl Harbored.
 
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Did you catch the bit where I showed they aren't a majority of that group by any stretch of the imagination?



Now that very much depends on the law. If all were followed, and always had been, a lot more of us would be living under feudal kings or robber barons. And the US wouldn't exist.

In a stable and just society, the law has to meet people more than halfway, and allow them the framework to live a reasonably good life. But that's not what we have here. The situations that have pushed people to leave their countries of origin-- conflict, repression, and economic turmoil-- often have the muddy fingerprints of the USA or the European empires on them. And the legal routes to resettle are plainly inadequate.

Then we have the simple fact that a lot of undocumented immigrants pay their taxes, don't commit crimes any more than naturalised citizens, and just live their lives and contribute to their communities. Society would also be a lot smoother if people all did that. But ICE doesn't let them.

I should’ve specified what’s happening at the southern border, assuming it was a given other immigrants aren’t the prime factor with what Arnold was getting at.

Somehow even with the existing laws I admitted that wind up favoring the wrong people, people still flock to this country. Yes, part of that is because we screwed their countries up to some extent, and I’ll be the first to admit we should focus on our own domestic issues before knocking on anyone else’s doors. We’ve gotten ourselves into quite a tangled mess over the better part of this past century.
 
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Slavery was once legal in the United States. Lawbreakers went and freed slaves. I guess those laws should have been followed by all so that things would have run more smoothly.
Note I said there are some laws that favor the wrong people, which in that case would be slave holders.
 

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Trump chose to "celebrate" Juneteenth by whining about "too many non-working holidays".


Too many non-working holidays in America. It is costing our Country $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to keep all of these businesses closed. The workers don't want it either! Soon we'll end up having a holiday for every once working day of the year. It must change if we are going to, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
As if this asshole, who has never actually worked a single solitary day in his worthless life, knows what "the workers" want.
 
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Trump chose to "celebrate" Juneteenth by whining about "too many non-working holidays".




As if this asshole, who has never actually worked a single solitary day in his worthless life, knows what "the workers" want.
I mean, I didn't get paid for today, and I wish I had been able to work instead. Since I am a contractor.
 

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How I think this will turn out in reality:

MAGA: "We never wanted this."
Trump blabbers something
MAGA: "We've always wanted this."
I think MAGA would mostly split between that and:
MAGA: "We're kind of disappointed, but we love you anyway."
 
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I should’ve specified what’s happening at the southern border, assuming it was a given other immigrants aren’t the prime factor with what Arnold was getting at.
If we're talking about just those coming from Mexico: according to the CBP, it used to be the case that unauthorised entries were the majority, but they're <30% as of 2023.
 

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If we're talking about just those coming from Mexico: according to the CBP, it used to be the case that unauthorised entries were the majority, but they're <30% as of 2023.
Which hasn't even been true for twenty years. The single biggest bloc of undocumented in the US have been (and still are) visa overstays.
 
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If we're talking about just those coming from Mexico: according to the CBP, it used to be the case that unauthorised entries were the majority, but they're <30% as of 2023.
Which is likely contributed to new legislation granting legal status, whether temporary or otherwise to meet the burgeoning labor demand. Legal vs illegal is a matter of language, and that’s perhaps no more evident than visa overstays being considered “undocumented”. Whatever the case, the bottom line is always going to be an issue of capacity in every respect, regardless of whatever policies are made and whomever they wind up favoring.
 

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Yep, here we go. The guy who wanted to end all wars has decided to get involved in a war. Without Congressional approval, of course, but since when does Emperor Trump need permission to do anything he wants?


And if you're thinking "big deal, this won't affect me", well, you might be seeing gas prices skyrocket soon.

 

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And if you're thinking "big deal, this won't affect me", well, you might be seeing gas prices skyrocket soon.
Well, that's one way Trump could have chosen to do his buddy Putin a solid.
 

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(I realize now that I missed an opportunity to say "you might be seeing gas prices take off like a Starship doesn't soon". I am filled with shame.)

Meanwhile, couch fucker JD Vance says "we are not at war with Iran, we are at war with Iran's nuclear program". Oh, so I guess that makes everything okay then.

Marco Rubio says "President Trump acted last night, and the world today is safer, more stable than it was 24 hours ago." Meanwhile, Putin ally Dmitry Medvedev said "The enrichment of nuclear material—and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons—will continue. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."
 
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Isn't CNN more or less just fox news now?
Not so much, CNN just simps for whomever is in power, and they never miss an opportunity to polish the military-industrial complex's knob. The difference is in how they frame the knob polishing.

Don't confuse general purpose cuckoldry with partisan cuckoldry.