Valve Doesn't Hate Origin

[Giest4life]

Trust me, Gabe knows better than to throw his weight around.

And now you've delayed Episode 3 for another month. Well done0.

Considering how many jokes there are... it's not going to be released until Gabe dies. And then the gaming community will be too busy mourning to play Ep3. We live in sad times.

Let's all pool-in and buy him a membership to L.A. Fitness, or something.

 

[thespyisdead]

It was hated because while it was installed(X3:Reunion) my WoW framerate dropped through the floor even when X3 was closed. I tested this multiple times, even though it was a pain in the ass to remove the starforce drm each damned time since I had to delete 10 different reg entries and run a 3rd party scrubber. The slowdown was definitely caused by starforce. Not to mention there were plenty of documented instances of it fraggin CD/DVD drives.

there is no proof, that CD/DVD drives were fucked up. hell... even when the creator set up a "competition" to prove that the program did indeed break drives, no one showed up, further proving, that it is the pirate whining about not being able to effectively( or easily) crack the games protected by starforce. as for WoW i never played it, so i can't really relate to you in this question.

 

[Marmooset]

Valve doesn't hate anybody. Can't say the same about the people who use the various services...

This thread just makes me think of two opposing armies killing each other over the true words of Gandhi. weird huh?

Maybe Gabe should go on a hunger strike until they make up.

 

[screwvalve]

Maybe Gabe should go on a hunger strike until they make up.

He should go on a hunger strike anyways.

 

[screwvalve]

That rate pricing scheme is not determined by Steam, it's determined by the publishers who sell through Steam. You can't blame that on Steam, poor price localization is a fault of the entire industry. Just like Gamestop doesn't determine the prices, neither does Steam. Now, EA determines the prices for their stuff on Origin, so if they aren't the best price around, then that is that. I have bought 2 EA games recently, and only when I got them cheap on Amazon. I have registered them with Origin, but I never have it running, unless I'm playing the BF3 Beta.... still not sure if I'm gonna buy it.

No, that unfair pricing scheme is not determined by the publishers, it's solely Valve's decision. Other, good download services like gog have only one world price in each of their titles. What you pay in the usa is what you pay in europe, in new zealand, and anywhere else in the world. Valve decided to put that $1=€1 policy because it was easier to them, and there's lots of annoyance because of ot. Valve is not the good dudes that want the best to their customers but the big bad publishers and suits won't let them. Dont be fooled that easily. Valve is a big bad publisher in suits. Who publishes portal/hl/l4d and all the other source mods?They have a lot of say into the prices of what they sell in their gated store, including third party games, DLC, game items and such.

 

[screwvalve]

get a fucking console!!! no DRM or Origin there!

The console is the drm itself. Hardware based drm. Thats the only point to consoles.

 

[MorganL4]

Okay, its fine that Newell wants EA's games on Steam I get that. But is he willing to put Valve's games on Origin, in all fairness You can't stand there and say you want to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[SFMB]

You can't really be angry at retarted babies. Valve is a great for being such a good sport with the EA's problem child.

 

[Me55enger]

Perhaps he is being polite merely because they are not a threat to valve.

 

[duchaked]

can't remember if I ever made an EA account for a game...

and I can't blame EA for pulling their games to be put on their own platform. it's only logical from a business standpoint if theirs can still be successful. not that I'm too crazy about Origin or anything

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Eh, unlike Steam, Origin is stable and doesn't chow down on CPU and RAM until your computer grinds to a halt and bursts into tears under the insane demands of the system.

Just my 2 cents.

...What?

Origin's a total resource whore even whilst Idling, I refuse to use it other then for BF3. (Provided it's not a flop either in connectivity terms)

 

[ezeroast]

Origin is totally harmless, I run it through steam and never even think about it to be honest.

 

[Sofus]

That rate pricing scheme is not determined by Steam, it's determined by the publishers who sell through Steam. You can't blame that on Steam, poor price localization is a fault of the entire industry. Just like Gamestop doesn't determine the prices, neither does Steam. Now, EA determines the prices for their stuff on Origin, so if they aren't the best price around, then that is that. I have bought 2 EA games recently, and only when I got them cheap on Amazon. I have registered them with Origin, but I never have it running, unless I'm playing the BF3 Beta.... still not sure if I'm gonna buy it.

No, that unfair pricing scheme is not determined by the publishers, it's solely Valve's decision. Other, good download services like gog have only one world price in each of their titles. What you pay in the usa is what you pay in europe, in new zealand, and anywhere else in the world. Valve decided to put that $1=€1 policy because it was easier to them, and there's lots of annoyance because of ot. Valve is not the good dudes that want the best to their customers but the big bad publishers and suits won't let them. Dont be fooled that easily. Valve is a big bad publisher in suits. Who publishes portal/hl/l4d and all the other source mods?They have a lot of say into the prices of what they sell in their gated store, including third party games, DLC, game items and such.

Might I remind you that Steam have insane sales all the time. Sure you might have to wait for a game instead of buying it on day one (yes i'm european).

VALVe is way more active when it comes to fan and customer care. When was the last time you heard that John Riccitiello (EA's CEO) actively did anything for the gaming community. Things like meeting with fans who created mods, answering e-mails or taking the time to be in any type of interesting interview (like "All your history are belong to us"). No thats right, John Riccitiello gets interviewed by Fox News.....

 

[DasDestroyer]

I don't hate the little microbes on my ceiling, and neither does Valve hate Origin.

 

[grigjd3]

The membership numbers aren't real. Anyone who had an account with EA for a PC title (ala Mass Effect, etc), automatically had that account translated into an Origin account. In other words, those "memberships" are entirely bogus.

 

[Aprilgold]

get a fucking console!!! no DRM or Origin there!

Hold on, Fry mans got this one.

Consoles are more DRM heavy then anything on PC. Origin is just tracking shit it shouldn't be tracking. Also, EA hates its customer, why have something to support a company that doesn't care for the consumer, only seeing them as walking wallets.

 

[ediblemitten]

That... wasn't what I said. Where does piracy come into this at all?

if you talk about DRM being a bad thing, you have to meant that pirating is hard.

remember Starforce? that hated DRM? why was it hated? IT WAS HARD AS HELL TO PIRATE THE GAMES PROTECTED BY IT!!! i think the same is happening with EAs own DRM (though i do agree that putting EAs DRM on steam was excessive)

You're the one complaining about DRM, not me.

i am not really complaining about DRM... i am actually kinda for it. devs Have to get their money somehow, so that we will get great games in the future

Actually, you did complain about DRM.

In fact, you specifically said: "get a fucking console!!! no DRM or Origin there!", implying that you detest, or at least greatly dislike DRM.

You know, its not good for someone arguing on the internet to attempt to backtrack and say 'Oh, I didn't say that! What are you goofballs talking about?', WHEN EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THE ARGUMENT IS WRITTEN DOWN AND AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO READ.

 

[thespyisdead]

Actually, you did complain about DRM.

In fact, you specifically said: "get a fucking console!!! no DRM or Origin there!", implying that you detest, or at least greatly dislike DRM.

You know, its not good for someone arguing on the internet to attempt to backtrack and say 'Oh, I didn't say that! What are you goofballs talking about?', WHEN EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THE ARGUMENT IS WRITTEN DOWN AND AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO READ.

the same logic can be applied to your "Did you never think that linking software into a specific hardware was just as bad, if not worse?", which i already did, but you denied that you implied, that PCs are better, due to the fact that you can pirate with almost no limitations, as opposed to consoles...


ahem, and i quote,:

"You know, its not good for someone arguing on the internet to attempt to backtrack and say 'Oh, I didn't say that! What are you goofballs talking about?', WHEN EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THE ARGUMENT IS WRITTEN DOWN AND AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO READ"

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Of corse valve doesn't hate them, I hardly trust EA enough to buy a game from them! I'm supposed to trust them with digitally distributing my games?