Valve vs. Zynga

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DeadlyYellow

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Amazing the supposed zeal a rather petty popularity contest can inspire. Made worse by the garnering of vote spam by both competing sides. But it continues the increasing rift in the gaming community, further segregating players for their choice of this particular media.

Oh how I would have loved to see the indignation of all these self-righteous 'hardcore gamers' had Zynga actually won.
 

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I'm just glad Zynga ended up losing. Not because I am against casual gaming (although I don't particularly enjoy it), but because it has scammed people in the past.
 

Altorin

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DeadlyYellow said:
Amazing the supposed zeal a rather petty popularity contest can inspire. Made worse by the garnering of vote spam by both competing sides. But it continues the increasing rift in the gaming community, further segregating players for their choice of this particular media.

Oh how I would have loved to see the indignation of all these self-righteous 'hardcore gamers' had Zynga actually won.
would have just had to rally behind Bioware.

Which I was prepared to do anyway :)
 

PedroSteckecilo

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I don't care that Zynga is a Casual Game Company, I care that their games are derivative, possibly stolen pieces of crap design that scam their players/marks with endless spam messages and "freemium" content.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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It's interesting that there was an Article about the Round, but then again, the Whole 'Zynga Winning round after Round' thing was gaining a fair amount of attention.

Not much for how much they Stressed 'Hardcore', there was something about it I didn't like.
Sleekgiant said:
No one wanted that
Plenty of people wanted it, just to see Many Users whine about it and such.
Sleekgiant said:
it would ruin the reputation of March Mayhem
March Mayhem's current Reputaion is the Escapist's Yearly Official Vs. Thread Bonanza that summons much Flaming and even the Odd Troll.

And after the /b/ Incedent, it's reputation is now going to contain "Being bad enough to make some users bring forth Trolls in hopes that they will help in Victory, only to bring Misery and Chaos to the Forums"

I know that the Traffic is good for the Site, and it can be kinda cool to see so many Users Vote in 1 Poll at once, but it is rather unsettling when Everyone is talking about a good, Civil Round, just for it to turn to Flaming the minute the Poll opens.

Still, I suppose I'm up for it next year, just to see if we can have A decent MM while I'm here, seeing as this was my First March Mayhem.
 

maddawg IAJI

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Altorin said:
maddawg IAJI said:
They actually wrote an article on it? That is freaking sweet!

While he may have overdramatized it, I feel a sense of pride knowing that I was a part of that battle. It wasen't just a victory us and for Valve, it was a victory for all of those who came to offer their support and the idea that we may all have diffrent tastes, but we are all gamers and we will support the developer who deserved to win.
I wouldn't say it was overdramatized. In fact, I saw first hand more drama in that battle then that article contained
Maybe for the first couple hundred posts where people were posting pictures of reinforcements. Although it was fun to treat it like a military conquest.
Sleekgiant said:
Oh I'm glad I stayed away from March Mayhem, so much mod wrath
KittywifaMohawk said:
Or would you rather have Zynga win
No one wanted that, it would ruin the reputation of March Mayhem if it was given to a company that makes casual games
You stayed away from March Mayhem? Could of sworn I saw your Dancing Teddy in a few of the Zynga threads.
 

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I wish the article had mentioned the recruiting of /b/ and /v/; the fact that even they united to help Valve. Sure, it backfired a little but the point still stands. I think that was a true, major achievement in this whole thing.

Otherwise, nice article. I wouldn't normally care about this subject but I was drawn in by... other people.
 

Sleekgiant

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maddawg IAJI said:
You stayed away from March Mayhem? Could of sworn I saw your Dancing Teddy in a few of the Zynga threads.
Seeing as to how my avatar is a famous meme I'm not surprised but I stayed far away from it
 

Beartrucci

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The article made it sound far more epic than it actually was.

While it was awesome in that last day to watch Valve pull out in front, the article made it sound like people were rallying behind each other yelling out war cries and eagerly awaiting Zynga's bloody death.

Oh wait, people were doing that. It was still fucking awesome.
 

Insanum

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It was Neck & neck - Then Valve pulled Steam into it.

Valve then pulled away...I think this was a Way of making US(the escapist community) sweat! Another reason why Valve is an Evil genius!
<color=white>Thats a joke there Kiddies - i dont think Valve are evil...Just crafty.
In all fairness though, Im VERY glad Valve won that, And now im going to sit back & watch the final. Woop!
 

Mr. Purple

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<color=purple>It was a great article and it amused me, half because I loved that Valve won. I was astonished and overcome with pride and joy when Valve took over the polls and thrashed Zynga. I believe a tear may have come to my eye when i heard the news. Matter of fact, I am still giddy.
 

The Rockerfly

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Furburt said:
I really couldn't care less who won. Even if Zynga won, I still wouldn't have been bothered. I admit that I voted in the Valve V Zynga round, but that was only at another insistence.

Frankly, people need to understand that MM is a simple popularity contest, that's all. It's pointless! Everyone knows from the start that Zynga is more popular than Valve, they have more users. Obviously, not enough of them voted though. But that means nothing, who has more users, absolutely nothing at all. Valve would still have continued making quality games if they had lost, and Zynga aren't going to stop making their games just because of this.

In my opinion, people need to stop taking it so seriously. The article misses the point entirely. It's a silly competition, not the battle of Issus.
Thank you, people are getting so worked up about it and the amount of people experiencing mod wrath was probably hitting the triple digits

Plus Zynga were almost about to win and I'm sorry but the only reason they would ever win would be due to the massive amounts of spam
 

DeadlyYellow

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Altorin said:
would have just had to rally behind Bioware.

Which I was prepared to do anyway :)
Part of me also wondered if there was any hope for Bioware, since the ending vote tally for Valve (or Zynga) was double the tally for Bioware and its competitor in their respective brackets. While I considered it the typical internet popularity contest, my troll instincts tell me to watch it for potential entertainment. Which reminds me, we have a section on this TV Tropes page. In the video games section naturally. Got me laughing a few times.

Also I'm one of those fans generally bitter on the lack of information regarding HL2E3.
 

Shaegor

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I wish he had used the unification poster, those looked more epic somehow.
Amusing article, makes me feel all proud and whatnot.
 

Souplex

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As I have said many times in other places: Zynga is an ass pimple on gaming: Unpleasant, but harmless and ignorable. Valve on the other hand is a cancer. They are a part of gaming that has become corrupt and is killing it from within. Valve has bad ideas and is popular. Valve represents digital distribution, (Steam) and as we all know digital distribution is the enemy. (Think of a sadder image than desperate workers barely able to feed themselves and their family on their wages working at the one job that hasn't been taken over by robots: The robot factory. One day a type of robot building robot is invented, and all the humans need to give up the only job they could find; manufacturing their replacements. Every time we de-humanize retail we get a step closer to that.), that annoying method of co-op where they gimp everyone rendering them worthless on their own, power-armored non-characters using generic weapons to fight one-dimensionally evil alien invaders, and that obnoxious, immersion-breaking storytelling method where instead of putting some effort into some nice cutscenes or something, characters give poorly written exposition occasionally peppered with "Gordon Freeman" in case you forgot the name of disembodied hands with gun #342. It saddens me that our hatred of casual gaming caused people to side with cancer.
 

Waif

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The article did not seem to reflect the truth of the victory. Yes people from all around the core gaming community banded together. Though it was only because Valve began advertising the contest on their launcher that Zynga was overtaken. Prior to that, Zynga was 3k votes up on valve, and would have won. My only problem with this is that the article is critical about Zynga advertising this event, but ignoring the fact that Valve did the very same, and it was the only reason why Valve was victorious. The article also did not mention 4chan, neither did it talk about the hostility. The article was not as objective or truthful as it could have been.
 

Simalacrum

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Twas indeed a glorious battle...

What I love more about it though, is that now that battle is over (arguably more epic than the final showdown itself), all the gamers voting on this final round have become incredibly polite to one another, and showing great respect to the competition (mostly) - its almost like that union hasn't been lost, even though Zynga have been beaten. Maybe this unification shall remain...?
 

Raven191

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I was also a part of this epic battle with my war cries for Valve to beat those silly farmers and 'same game with a different skin' developers. If Valve had lost, it would be a dark day for all gamers everywhere. In the upcoming final, there is no shame for losing as both are great developers. Losing to Zynga would have been very bad indeed.
 

maddawg IAJI

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Simalacrum said:
Twas indeed a glorious battle...

What I love more about it though, is that now that battle is over (arguably more epic than the final showdown itself), all the gamers voting on this final round have become incredibly polite to one another, and showing great respect to the competition (mostly) - its almost like that union hasn't been lost, even though Zynga have been beaten. Maybe this unification shall remain...?
I don't know about that. I saw a lot of flaming between a few posters in the thread. I really think this unification won't last much longer, but I got my fingers crossed that a good portion of the gaming community remains friendly for just a little longer. I'm enjoying the peace afterall.