Abedeus said:
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If humans were to eat only vegetables, I think our ancestors would just stay in one place and grow crops instead of moving around and hunting for animals. I mean, an animal might attack, hurt you! Most of the plants people grow for harvest can't hurt you, unless you shove them up your nose.
Humans are omnivores! You can't make a lion eat only grass and vegetables or turn a cow into a blood-thirsty monster. Just like animals' bodies need what they need, we need both vegetables and meat.
Yeah, but we don't need to eat meat. We can get along just fine with vegetables and beans. Indian food is mostly vegetarian, it's primarily the West that's bought into the heavy meat meals. The problems come in when people assume they can just live off of salad. Lettuce doesn't have much in the way of protean, or anything besides water, but broccoli and beans do.
We're not lions - we can live without eating meat. Making appeals to our ancestors is pointless, because they did all kinds of crap that we wouldn't tolerate in our society. We can make choices. We have options. We can think for ourselves.
It doesn't matter, for the sake of our morality, what our ancestors did. We're here now. We're not going to go backwards if we eat plants instead of meat.
Uhm. Yeah, we do need to eat meat.
And you get proteins from... which vegetable? Broccoli and beans? Hope you don't fart a lot. Hmm, might explain why they are so smug...
1) That was uncalled for. Why the personal attacks?
2) We don't need to eat meat. Vegetarians who eat properly are actually healthier
because they don't eat red meat.
3) It depends how you prepare the beans.
1) I didn't know you are a vegetarian. My apologies.
2) Studies. Citation needed.
3) Yeah, because every vegetarian knows that ;d
1) I'm not, I'm just not a fan of the ridiculous arguments made by self-styled carnivores.
2) http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/060413.diet.shtml
?The adverse effects of dietary animal fat intake on cardiovascular diseases is by now well established. Similar effects are also seen when meat, rather than fat, intake is considered,? Martin and Eshel wrote. ?To our knowledge, there is currently no credible evidence that plant-based diets actually undermine health; the balance of available evidence suggests that plant-based diets are at the very least just as safe as mixed ones, and most likely safer.?
3) Even if they didn't, besides the fact that it's common knowledge, that's irrelevant.
Seriously, do you feel
that guilty about eating meat that you're willing to come up with your ridiculous, ignorant assertions?
1) I suggest not calling someone a carnivore before you check what that means. It means only meat. Don't insult people if you don't like that either. Which leads to next point...
2) Of course eating ONLY red meat is unhealthy. We are omnivores for a REASON! We need both plants and meat. I just like meat more. For instance, I eat only fruit and vegetables till noon. Part of diet which prevents mixing meat with cheese, cheese with bread and bread with meat.
3) "Common knowledge" [CITATION NEEDED]. Most of the people in the world eat both meat and vegetables.
I don't feel guilty. Never said I did. Stop putting your words in my mouth.
"That's ignorance, you're being ignorant".
Okay, another reason not to go vegetarian - Vitamin D. Most of the stuff that gives it was meat (fish) or eggs. Oh, they can't eat eggs...
Another question - Can they drink milk? Yes? Why? People breed cows for milk, same with goats and sheep. Or honey. Bees are tortures in small boxes and people steal the honey they make. Also, if they can't eat milk, they also can't eat cheese.
This leads to another thing - you can't eat dairy products. And I think you know that's one of the primary sources of PROTEINS. Sure, you can eat nuts all day, but easier to eat some cheese. But then you are a part of the problem and enslavement of cows. Shame.
1) "Self-styled carnivores." I mean the people who think it's cool to bash vegans.
2) It's not only eating red meat, and nothing else, that's harmful. Red meat, period, isn't good for you.
http://environment.about.com/od/health/a/red_meat_mad.htm
Negative Health Effects of Red Meat
Regardless, nutritionists hardly need more evidence about the potentially negative health effects of eating red meat. For starters, the saturated animal fat in red meat contributes to heart disease and atherosclerosis. Recent research also shows that frequent red meat eaters face twice the risk of colon cancer as those who indulge less often. Red meat is also thought to increase the risks of rheumatoid arthritis and endometriosis.
Meanwhile, according to the American Dietetic Association, vegetarian diets can significantly reduce the risk of heart disease, colon cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, kidney disease, hypertension, obesity, and other debilitating medical conditions. While red meat is a key source of protein and vitamin B12 in North American diets, nutritionists explain that properly planned meat-free diets easily provide these important nutrients while keeping you healthier in the long run.
3) Rinsing your beans will keep you from getting gassy. That should be common knowledge. If it isn't, well, now you know.
As I've said before, the way we factory farm eggs is pretty twisted - it's certainly cruel. There are better ways of getting eggs than battery cages, though they're a bit more expensive, and sometime "free range" just means slightly bigger cages.
And, man, you can get proteins from dark greens and fibers. Calcium occurs naturally in plants (how do you think cows get this element in their milk) and vitamin D is what our skin produces when exposed to sunlight. And, hey, if all else fails, there are supplements.
If you go the vegan route, it just means you have to be a little more aware of what you eat. And that's not a bad thing.
