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L33tsauce_Marty

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I never really liked vegetarians simply because they are hypocrites. Plants are living things too. Just like Carlos Mencia said, you are killing the solution.
 

RufusMcLaser

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I can't profess to speak for everyone else in the world, but I'll make a guess. It might be that the hostility is a defensive reaction; the people in question see you rejecting a component of their lifestyle, which leads to resentment, low-grade xenophobia, and other stupid reactions.
That said, planning events with a vegetarian in your group can be a hassle. Everyone else wants steak or ribs, and they want... Grilled zucchini? Right, we'll just forget all about every decent steakhouse in the city.
 

PersianLlama

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wewontdie11 said:
I am a vegetarian and have been for the majority of my life so far (since I was 8). None of my family are vegetarian or are animal activists or anything, but one day I just decided that I didn't like the taste or texture of meat when I was eating it anymore.

My question is why do so many people have so much hate for vegetarians? A lot of my acquaintances constantly berate me for my eating preferences like some kind of amateur food Nazis, but I fail to see how it is different from not liking, for example, bananas or turnip. Even the really hardcore, morally orientated vegetarians and vegans have the right to eat what they want, and although it is not my view, I understand and respect their not wanting to kill animals. I feel this to be a perfectly reasonable point of view.

So I ask you, why the hate?
I have a lot of respect for vegetarians. I'd be one, but my family feels the need to cook some sort of meat almost every night. I'd probably eat noodles and rice till I go to live on my own. I plan on eventually becoming a vegetarian. =\
 

Shivari

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PersianLlama said:
I'd be one, but my family feels the need to cook some sort of meat almost every night. I'd probably eat noodles and rice till I go to live on my own.
That's what my parents still do, I just get my mom to make something else for me. =)

Best idea: Go grocery shopping with your mom or whoever, and pick stuff out for yourself. That's the easiest way to get everything running smoothly right from the beginning.
 

PersianLlama

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Shivari said:
PersianLlama said:
I'd be one, but my family feels the need to cook some sort of meat almost every night. I'd probably eat noodles and rice till I go to live on my own.
That's what my parents still do, I just get my mom to make something else for me. =)

Best idea: Go grocery shopping with your mom or whoever, and pick stuff out for yourself. That's the easiest way to get everything running smoothly right from the beginning.
Great idea. I'll try that next time my mom goes grocery shopping.
 

Captain_Planet

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*sigh* I think that this is an issue with the silent majority. I agree with wewontdie 100%, because there does seem to be alot of anti vegetarian hate (ive been a vegetarian since I was 14 so I am a little biased, obviously). There are very few vegetarians who are crusaders for their beliefs, its just that a very small portion goes way to far. This, to anyone who has paid attention to recent events, should sound vaguely familar. Remember anti-Islamic backlash following 9-11? A silent majority existed and did absolutly nothing wrong. Remember politcal extremists, protesters etc. Do any people in the broader spectrum do anything against others? Often it is entirly on a very small percentage. Now, out of my friends that are vegetarians, only one of them is hostile. Among my omnivorous friends, there have been many who have decried vegetarianism as some sort of cultish behavior. In relaity, both groups are among the minority. Tolerence is a virtue, and what we need to learn is how to deal with others views. I have never tried to force my ideals, when it came to vegetarianism, on any one else, and most of the vegetarians I have known have not either.

So its great we all have opinions, but remember the silent majority. Tolerence can start in small ways, and something like eating habits is too small a thing to fight about.
 

Shivari

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PersianLlama said:
Great idea. I'll try that next time my mom goes grocery shopping.
Suggestions for things to pick out:

Organic Milk: Assuming you'll still drink milk as a veggie. You could also get Soy Milk if you don't want to continue dairy products, or even if you still are but want to cut down.

Some stuff you could make on your own that's meatless, whether it be microwavable or whatever. Also, just make sure there's a decent amount of side dishes that your mom makes that are veggie friendly. That way, you can have whatever you're separate dish is and maybe still have mashed potatoes or whatever.

Salads, and stuff for salad. Don't just have a boring salad, maybe get some cheese for it, a good dressing, and whatever you think would be good. Your family could even make a big salad and have that for dinner, my parents seem to enjoy that.

Soy foods: If you still like the taste of meat, this will be good. I've even gotten my whole family to switch to exclusively eating veggie burgers at home!

If you like nuts, get those, as they have a lot of protein. I only like peanuts, which have a lot of protein. They're not my favorite, so they're not my main protein source, but if you like them that would be great.

Basically, just make sure you get a good amount of protein in your diet (it's super easy, don't worry) and you'll be fine. You could also take a vitamin if you want, but it's really not necessary, but I like it anyway. A basic vitamin would be fine if you're going to do that. I know there's stuff all over the internet and Youtube about vegetarian diets, I could PM some links if you want.

Before long, you'll be a healthy vegetarian and you can act all superior at lunch in front of your friends!
 

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liquidmetal said:
They also said years ago that we shouldn't drink out of aluminum cans because trace metals leech into the fluid and are bad for you. Instead, they said that we should use plastic bottles. Now they're saying that plastic bottles leech trace elements into the fluid and we should drink from aluminum cans. I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years they tell us that vitamin supplements cause cancer and that everyone should eat meat.
Yay, I can't wait for smoking to become good for you again!!
 

OHC

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Eiseman said:
Any vegetarian who tries to judge me and my love of meat will be stabbed by a steak knife.
No, meat eaters aren't aggressive at all, are they?
 

OHC

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Levinthor said:
It's not the vegetarians themselves that people hate.
It's when the same vegetarians start telling you that you are murdering animals, abusing animals, and start generally pushing vegetarianism on you.
Yeah I hate it when people go on at me about my black slaves. It sucks; next they'll give women the vote.
 

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OHC said:
Eiseman said:
Any vegetarian who tries to judge me and my love of meat will be stabbed by a steak knife.
No, meat eaters aren't aggressive at all, are they?
Just to lol at this post:
Martin Luther King was a meat eater and he was all about the passive protest.
Hitler was a vegetarian and you instigated the murder of millions.

You get idiots on both sides of the fence.

Edit: Oh, and nice triple post by the way. What, clicking the Edit button too difficult for you?
 

Captain_Planet

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To Sgt. Pepper.
Ok, basic economic here, like Uriahz was saying. Any decrease in demand (however small) will result in the demand curve shifting left (essentially getting smaller). Now an article I read about vegetarianism from a legitimate newspaper (and not a Vegetarian Re-education Center Sponsered by the Forces of Evil) and it stated that the lessening of demand means about 120 animals are saved from slaughter, per year, per vegetarian. That adds up pretty quickly, seeing as how about 4% of Americans are vegetarians or vegens. So all your empty rhetoric is useless when facts rear their ugly heads.

Also, I find it fascinating that you decry Uriahz for his criticism by pointing out that you are apparently omnipotent, dismissing arguments with false appeals to emotions, non sequitors and strawmen. But hey, since Im a vegetarian I will head back to my Ivory Tower, all ready to force you to turn to the dark side.

You send a barrage of hatred against Uriahz, telling him that he cant control what you do in your life, and then you yourself tell him to stop expressing his opinion. As Scott Adams once said: "Thank God for double standards, without them we would all be unemployed and in jail."
 

OHC

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2na said:
Generally I think you?re hated because your food takes longer to prepare has to be specially prepared and people have to go out of there way to do it ? and usually don?t receive a thanks for taking the effort.
Sure, because all food comes from the restaurant, not from the ground.

Picking an apple involves remarkably less effort than killing and cutting up a cow.
 

crimsondynamics

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Wow, you invoked Godwin's Law in the OP!

I love meat, and hate vegetables. Believe it or not, I am all for being vegetarian or vegan - I just lack the willpower to give up meat indefinitely.

I have no idea why meat eaters treat you with disdain. Where I live, there is a good mix of vegetarians and meat-eaters and I've never encountered such problems.

I doubt they hate you for it; then again, if it bothers you, perhaps you should let them know - or find vegetarian acquaintances with whom you can enjoy a meal with. Perhaps your acquaintances are jibing you because they would naturally choose to eat where they serve meat, and your requesting vegetarian this-or-that is viewed by them as "picky"?

Better yet, find a couple of vegetarian friends and invite your meat-loving friends, one by one, to join you for lunch. Then you and your vegetarian friends can rag on the meat lovers and give them a taste of their own medicine!
 

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squirrelman42 said:
my hate for vegan/vegetarians is the same for my hatred of Mac users, and Democrats. It's not that what they believe in is in and of itself bad, it's that the way they attack me for disagreeing with them and refuse to listen to reason that makes me hate it.
You must be real pleased with the last U.S election then :)
 

Ronin_14-47

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I think I speak for a great deal of omni nommers when I say that we don't hate you, we tend to see the ugly stereotypical "YOU'RE MURDERING THESE INNOCENT CREATURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" vegans or whatever you call them. Plants are living things, why aren't you concerned about them, hmmm? Is it because they have no "life" to them? Need I bring up the Terry Schivo thing? If you're going to kill things to eat, at least have a healthy, balanced, tasty variety. If you don't like meat, fine, but don't think omni nommers are barbarians.
 

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Amnestic said:
Hitler was a vegetarian and you instigated the murder of millions.
BZZT. Hitler was forced into a vegetarian diet by his doctor for a brief time for health reasons. Nice try though.