Violence is completely uncensored in videogames... But love is??
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Actually, Rome was, so I have read, pretty big on public orgies and homoeroticism. Women were generally suppressed, but the men were extremely open about their bodies, even going as far as to have men who were friends or coworkers having intercourse with each other.DVSAurion said:
Exactly. Children exposed to sex at early ages get really messed up. That's why child molestation is a problem (It doesn't matter if it's consensual even if a child knew what they were agreeing to, it'll screw them up anyway).Generic Gamer said:
And finally, violence can be abstract. I've rarely seen realistic violence that caused more violence in games. Sex, on the other hand is sex. Ask any guy.
It is kinda ridiculous, but I'm not in favour of leaving sex and nudity uncensored. I don't think gaming is a mature enough medium to handle things like sex the right way. It'd just come off as crass.
Why would you masturbate to your own imagination? It doesn't matter, you just do.(BWM) T-O-M said:
simple, because mom's are united in a secret underground clan , trying to make theyr sons and daughters to know how to kill a human being in 50 diffrent ways, so they can take out the goverment, and abolish sex ..
Probably... Switzerland!Xzi said:
Nobody's ever done a Switzerland is neutral joke before right?
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Sort of like what Xzi said, America is the country were dismemberment and decapitation are fine, but breasts are unacceptable.
I'm not a big fan of sex in games. I don't have ANYTHING against sex or nudity in films and real life, but have you noticed how games with sex and nudity get higher ratings than those without? I'm pretty sure Heavy Rain and Mass Effect are good games (I KNOW God of War is a good game) but there's this nagging feeling that some people only like them because of the nudity and sex. I don't like that. I judge a game on story, gameplay, and replay value. If there's sex in it, I don't care, it's not a plus or a minus for the game. I'm not homosexual or anything, but I just don't think sex really improves a game.
Violence, however, is different. You can't preform violence in real life without penalty. If you blew up some guys head in real life, prison for life. If you explode a guys head in a video game, cool! +50 points! Video games allow us to do things we can't do in real life, like fly around, kill demons, shoot aliens, chainsaw zombies, bomb terrorists, and save the world. Sex is something to do with a real person to show you love them, not a virtual A.I for your own pleasure.
Violence, however, is different. You can't preform violence in real life without penalty. If you blew up some guys head in real life, prison for life. If you explode a guys head in a video game, cool! +50 points! Video games allow us to do things we can't do in real life, like fly around, kill demons, shoot aliens, chainsaw zombies, bomb terrorists, and save the world. Sex is something to do with a real person to show you love them, not a virtual A.I for your own pleasure.
In the exact same ways it can make a novel or a movie better.Jaranu said:
There really isn't much difference.
It's like that in all Western Media. *Note* I'm going to refer to Western Media for the rest of this post as that's what I'm exposed to the most. I'm not going to comment on Eastern Media because I simply don't know what goes down over there.
In everything it seems that violence is fine, and only the really gorey stuff is considered really obscene. Fight scenes of people punching each other are fine in almost every form of media aimed at those of around 10 years old and up. But any sort of sexual scene, even in something aimed at older audiences like Die Hard (implied sex), or Watchmen (actual boot knocking) it's still gets a sort of "ZOMFG SOME SEX MUST CENSOR!" reaction. Which is wierd, as people in general are infinately more likely to be involved in a sexual situation then they are a deadly knife fight or whatever.
Though maybe for that reason, it isn't shown as much in the media as violence, as stuff like TV and Film are the realms of escapist fantasy. Therefore they are more likely to show relatively abnormal actions, like gun fights or vicous torture. It's something most people wouldn't want to experience in the real world whereas sex is something people like in real life, so the former gets more attention from writers, directors, artists etc.
And it's not like all violence should be gone from the media, or that every work should have sex scenes in it. I think that a more even balance should be present, and that people shouldn't be so concerned with nudity or sexual references as forces that "corrupt children" (in stuff that's PG-13/12A and up, of course).
It's just a really wierd area, and until people get over themselves it's going to stay more or less the same.
In everything it seems that violence is fine, and only the really gorey stuff is considered really obscene. Fight scenes of people punching each other are fine in almost every form of media aimed at those of around 10 years old and up. But any sort of sexual scene, even in something aimed at older audiences like Die Hard (implied sex), or Watchmen (actual boot knocking) it's still gets a sort of "ZOMFG SOME SEX MUST CENSOR!" reaction. Which is wierd, as people in general are infinately more likely to be involved in a sexual situation then they are a deadly knife fight or whatever.
Though maybe for that reason, it isn't shown as much in the media as violence, as stuff like TV and Film are the realms of escapist fantasy. Therefore they are more likely to show relatively abnormal actions, like gun fights or vicous torture. It's something most people wouldn't want to experience in the real world whereas sex is something people like in real life, so the former gets more attention from writers, directors, artists etc.
And it's not like all violence should be gone from the media, or that every work should have sex scenes in it. I think that a more even balance should be present, and that people shouldn't be so concerned with nudity or sexual references as forces that "corrupt children" (in stuff that's PG-13/12A and up, of course).
It's just a really wierd area, and until people get over themselves it's going to stay more or less the same.
RewardMe said:
from what I understand there were two scenes and one had a very big hint on Necrophilia, now that makes me wonder which one you enjoyed....
there are some dedicated porn games out there
1. they would mostly likely to get bad rep
2.the shame from the development team just might kill them
3.they dont want to take their chances on (organisational censorship, BBFC ERSB and so forth)
Agreed, if the God of War series has taught us one thing it's that the inclusion of sexuality in no way makes a game more mature, and can in fact have the opposite effect.Generic Gamer said:
If anyone wants to scream Mass Effect at me then they can fuck right off. Yes, the game included sexuality, and is considered "mature" (about as mature as a game that lets you lez out on an alien chick can be). However, it's maturity came with the execution. And even then, considering that the sex scenes were something you unlocked with the right dialogue choices, making you have to "unlock" your love interest's pants puts the actual maturity of the implentation in question, to me anyway.
I would also like to point out that love hasn't been shied away from in games. There are plenty of romance plots/subplots, I shouldn't have to list any examples because they are fucking everywhere. Sex has been, but we all know that sex isn't the exclusive domain of love, therefore the OP's logic is, to me, questionable.
Because apparently to belief in society, being naked is worse for anyone below the age of 18 to see than being blown apart into small meaty chunks.
It makes no sense, but.. yeah.
It makes no sense, but.. yeah.
Don't you understand? That's how america works.
We can show our kids blood, decapitations, guts, torture, and terribly gross things.
But show them one penis or vagina...
OH DEAR GOD WHAT IF THEY JERK IT TO THIS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
We are a dumb ass country.
We can show our kids blood, decapitations, guts, torture, and terribly gross things.
But show them one penis or vagina...
OH DEAR GOD WHAT IF THEY JERK IT TO THIS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
We are a dumb ass country.
well most kids cant rip off arms and smoke crack out of eye sockets but any kid can insert tab A into slot B
This, there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING less educative than learning a natural thing that actually made you go out of that dude's testicles and into the world.SnipErlite said: