Violent Video Games "Warped" the Dark Knight Rises Killer

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Spartan448

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There is so much wrong with that article. But it looks like that might be one of those small-town tabloid papers. Lot of facts in just that first paragraph in the OP that are just not true. The New York Times had a huge article on the incident, and I'm pretty sure that if something was found out, it would have been in that article. The article mentioned nothing about a link to video games or kinky sex websites, which were both in the opening paragraph. Similarly, an editorial in the Sunday Review cautioned readers to be wary of this type of talk, stating that something similar happened with Columbine, whereas the story behind one of the perpetrators (Klebold, I believe) was one of self-hate and self-pity, showing he was a depressive, wildly different from what the public believed.
 

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violent_quiche said:
This is now my go to clip for times like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4&feature=player_embedded

If you don't have 2.48 to give to the whole thing, skip to 1.30 then tell me who does more to encourage shit like this. I'm sick of the things I love getting scapegoated by a medium that actively ignores professional advice in favour of commercial gain.
Does this mean I can twist this to blame the media now? A taste of their own medicine wouldn't hurt....................

....is what I would say if I really had to twist this around at all.
 

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The Rogue Wolf said:
Dyed red hair, huh?



Keep on truckin' with that research failure, guys. Two out of three sentences complete bullshit? You're aces!
Yeah the Internet has already made use of this info unfortunately!



 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Why must the media hate video games so much? It's getting out of hand the number of times video games are blamed for influencing awful crimes
Scapegoat syndrome. Blame everything except the person who did the deed. Of course there HAS to be an underlying reason behind some psychopath's actions, and its always VIDEO GAMES. The media isn't about reporting truth anymore, journalism is dead and gone replaced by sensationalism and scapegoating.
Welcome to the information age, where there's no such thing as lying or distorting truth. Context? What the hell is that?
Living in an age where anyone can be interviewed about a subject and that interview will most likely be chopped up and distorted to make the interviewee look to be something he/she is not... Cue the Farnsworth "I don't want to live on this planet anymore".

Its sick, sad and a travesty that the once respectable career of journalist is now nothing more than tabloid journalism and political agendas instead of just reporting news.

I honestly liked it when news was the boring talking head reading the facts and moving on to the next news item instead of giving his/her absolutely uninformed opinion or showing clips of some other uninformed idiot speaking about a topic that has NOTHING to do with the situation. All this shit started with Columbine.

I'd just graduated High School but most of my friends were in their senior year when those two morons shot up their school. The day after Columbine all my friends were called up to the office one by one. A little backstory, my friends and I formed a group called EvilCON. Our group was basically a PC gaming clan and we made up a bunch of t-shirts with different slogans on the back along with our EvilCON logo and our online handles on the front. Our motto was "Preparing for the Ultra-Violence", a tribute to A Clockwork Orange, which some of our t-shirts sported. And yes we wore them to school. We played D&D once a week, attended big LAN parties and held our own little LAN parties on weekends with each other. Anyway I was working at the school at the time as assistant to my former drama teacher whom I was good friends with having attended an acting class with her. I came in that day after Columbine and was told I wasn't allowed on school grounds anymore by the campus cop and the principal. My friends were all taken into the principal's office one-by-one and threatened by the school's lawyer and the principal with expulsion if they kept hanging around together. All because we played video games and "fit the profile" of those two idiots. Sure some of us dressed in black (my wardrobe is mostly dark clothing because I find it comfortable) and wore various metal band t-shirts and of course our EvilCON shirts. The school also had downloaded our website and claimed we had "plans" on there for shooting up our school which was an absolute fabrication. So one of my friends got on the phone with some people from the Wall Street Journal and gave our side of the story: We were just a bunch of high school kids who played games after school, like a club. We weren't violent, not a one of us had ever been suspended or disciplined for fighting or anything of the sort. Half of our group were honor roll students and pretty much all of us qualified in the genius IQ range (not bragging). And all of us had been bullied at one time or another, but we never even thought of doing something so stupid as shooting up the school. Most of us were more concerned with college and didn't give a rat's ass about high school since it was almost over for us (it was over for me, and the time I spent there after I graduated was because my drama teacher asked me to assist her that year).
Well somehow our story got to A&E and they sent us a camera to document the things we did afterschool and followed that up with a camera crew at one of our big LAN party events. They shot 2 days worth of footage, a few interviews with us and wrapped up and left. We didn't see any of the finished product until it premiered. Our segment was part of a "documentary" on psychotic kids who had killed parents or friends, cult members and the like and we were the only ones out of that whole thing who weren't currently standing trial and didn't seem like nutbags but even so they skewed our story way out of proportion and tried to make us seem like violent psychopaths just waiting to blow up and shoot up our school...
So I say fuck journalism, fuck the media. They're all a bunch of tabloid hacks no better than TMZ.
 

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WoW made me save my village from Dragon and no one ever wrote about that.
 

Zombie Izzard

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The joker had red hair? In what version? Certainly none of the movie versions....or tv shows...or games....What?
 

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Private Custard said:
thaluikhain said:
Wandering_Hero said:
Legalise assault rifles warped american citizens.

Seriously handguns is one thing, but why the hell are ASSULT RIFLES legal? Citizens won't be carrying those around in self defence
Assault rifles are only legal in the US if they have been registered before May 1986. They are very hard to come buy.

The AR-15 is not an assault rifle. The "AR" doesn't stand for "assault rifle", it stands for Armalite, the company that makes them.


This is an AR15, the sort of rifle that was used.


This is an assault rifle, specifically a M16A4

They are very different.
Both could be classed as assault rifles*. Both are gas-operated, both use the standard nato 5.56 round. Both, when sold to the public, are limited to semi-auto and limited magazine capacity.

The fact that the AR-15 is billed as a sporting rifle doesn't alter the similarities between the two. I've seen both hung on a wall in a gun shop in New Zealand, and they even had similar price tags!

What confuses me though is that if you want to shoot a deer, why not use a 5.56mm firing weapon that's far more suited to the job, such as a Swedish Mauser 5.56 bolt-action with a decent scope?

*Yes, the M16 has a fire-select switch. But I wasn't aware that non-military peeps were allowed fully automatic weapons.
A little confusion here, the M-16 is the military version. The AR-15 is the civilian version. The AR is restricted to semi-automatic while the M-16 may have automatic or only burst fire depending on the specifics of the rifle.
 
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OK, looks like it's time to break out the big text again.

*ahem*

[HEADING=3]IF SOMEONE IS ALREADY CRAZY, THEN PLAYING VIOLENT VIDEOGAMES, OR REALLY ANY GAME THAT INVOLVES KILLING STUFF, COULD ABSOLUTELY MAKE THEM WORSE. THIS IS NOT SOME KIND OF ATTACK ON THE MEDIUM, IT IS COMMON FUCKING SENSE.[/HEADING]

Honestly, I'm more concerned by the fact that they thought the Joker's hair was red.
 

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That paper looked like a tabloid... not the right font for the Daily Mail or Daily Express so I think the next worst thing: THE SUN?

If it's not written in a broadsheet then its nonsense I say. Nobody will take this seriously.
 

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Yep that didn't take very long for the papers to grab their baby bottle for safe assumptions. My paper came through my letterbox today and I sighed when I saw the front page article;


"Sometimes when he was supposed to be reading a paper or something like that, I would see him playing online role-playing games like World Of Warcraft and League of Legends"

And that is the only sentence in a 3 page spread on the article that mentions anything about video games.

So what do you think? Are you going to go out on a rampage from playing WoW? Or are the newspapers jumping on their usual bandwagon again?

Oh and the paper helped the issue by dubbing him the "Warped Knight". Yeah cause that's what he needs, a name to remember him by.
Hey, I just found out a better headline for this piece of literature: Shallow news paper undermines the deaths of fourteen people through blaming video games. Seriously though, with just how completely insane, shallow, and superficial the general media is I think every single one of us would be far more justified to say the media is the reason why people go around killing people. When you know, people like Glenn beck who go around saying 'The socialists are coming, and when they do you're going to have to shoot them.'

The media may not be pulling the trigger, but no matter what station we watch or what papers we read I am absolutely sure that there isn't any other medium out there than the news that is entirely set on warping and fabricating facts. So, from a business that's completely based around bull shit, dishonest editing, and misreporting I think they really shouldn't be going around saying that it's video games that's warping people. Christ!

But yeah, what I find most appalling besides their hypocrisy is just how offensively simplistic and shallow their reasoning is. It's transparent that they care more about feeding people bull shit and exploiting the deaths of those 14 people than to take steps in informing their readers and asking just what we can do to prevent this from happening any time soon or with its amount of casualties.
 

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It's at times like this that all you can do is laugh and move on. I mean hell, these guys wont listen to anyone, and it's clear they don't even care about facts, so we should give them no power and let them be obscure. The only true way they'll stop printing is if people stop caring, and look at all the care they're getting here. Sure, it's all hate, but as the phrase goes; "Any publicity is good publicity".
 

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SaunaKalja said:
I think Betteridge's law of headlines [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_Law_of_Headlines] applies here, once again.
Never heard of this before, but I've always kind of suspected it. Every time the news went "Did X cause Y?", I've always instantly responded, "I don't know. And if you don't know either, then it probably didn't."

In this particular case: something like seven million people play World of Warcraft. If the game really turned its players into homicidal maniacs, we should be having, like, three mass shootings a week. Then again, I'm pretty sure the point of this news story isn't to analyze the killer's real motives, but rather, to grab the attention of people who (1) still buy newspapers and (2) don't like video games.

EDIT: "By putting a question mark at the end of something, you can say fucking anything." [http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-13-2006/the-question-mark]
 

Lt._nefarious

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Okay, who had 22nd of July?

Sadly this was inevitable because like we all know if a murderer coughed while standing next to a Game Stop it means he was "obsessed" with violent videogames and since when is WoW a violent videogame... It's definitely not in the league of something like Manhunt or Syndicate...

I... I really don't have the words so I'll let Steve Carrell express my opinions for me...



Thank you Steve...
 

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I would understand if they thought he was trying to impersonate or try to be his own Batman villain or something, but NOPE! They just spun the wheel of hot topics and it landed on video games!
 

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Our main problem as gamers is we have no collective representation... because if this headline read "was shooter warped by dell computers?" you can bet dell would be all over this rag with lawyers.

I honestly think this is the worst example I've seen to date and it's so irresponsible and misleading that I honestly feel Blizzard (for example) could sic the law on the paper.

If only there was a way gamers as an (incredibly large) international community could act and speak as one like other groups.

We would wield considerable power, we are a massive majority from all walks of life despite what these sensationalist media rags do to encourage outdated stereotypes.

This is slander pure and simple.