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keideki

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CODE-D said:
whats up escapos
I am 19 male and a virgin. Now i have no problem with the fact that i am a virgin, the conflict comes from elsewhere. Its that I believe I want another virgin but its not just cause for their virginity, well kind of. its like this
1-I want to be someone elses first too(be that selfish as it may sound)
and knowing that somebody else was their first just sends my mind erratic wondering how they felt about that person or if they look at in regret(which would also worry me)
2-I want somebody with the same exp(which is zero) that way we can explore together and I also want a great long lasting relationship.
3-now the problem comes from my age(19) most girls by now have already done it at least once so I feel as if their is a time clock. What worries me is that ill find the right girl but she'll already have experienced it all and make me feel like an innocent lamb(which is what i dont want)
so any thoughts/advice? besides dont think about or dont let it bother you(that doesnt work or help, i know ive tried several times)
I used to feel the same way, and I wound up having sex for the first time with a girl who was not a virgin, although I was not aware of it at the time. Having someone more experienced than yourself to guide you thought it the first time is not a bad place to be. And while you think the only thing you will be able to focus on is their past lovers, when the cards are down the only thing you will be able to focus on is her.
 

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CODE-D said:
whats up escapos
I am 19 male and a virgin. Now i have no problem with the fact that i am a virgin, the conflict comes from elsewhere. Its that I believe I want another virgin but its not just cause for their virginity, well kind of. its like this
1-I want to be someone elses first too(be that selfish as it may sound)
and knowing that somebody else was their first just sends my mind erratic wondering how they felt about that person or if they look at in regret(which would also worry me)
2-I want somebody with the same exp(which is zero) that way we can explore together and I also want a great long lasting relationship.
3-now the problem comes from my age(19) most girls by now have already done it at least once so I feel as if their is a time clock. What worries me is that ill find the right girl but she'll already have experienced it all and make me feel like an innocent lamb(which is what i dont want)
so any thoughts/advice? besides dont think about or dont let it bother you(that doesnt work or help, i know ive tried several times)
im a guy and i didnt get laid until i was 22. dont overthink this. most girls dont care that much, and those who would break up with you because youre a virgin or because you sucked your first time, arent worth your time anyway. the first girl i had sex with was surprised to learn i was still a virgin and had quite a bit of experience, but did whatever she could to make me feel less insecure about it

dont rush it but dont hold off on it either. find someone special, who you want to be with emotionally, as well as physically, and just let it happen
 

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My first time we were both virgins, not doing that again(like I could). Blood and the sheer tightness and all that.

Seriously I don't get the allure of doing it with a virgin, I want my girl to have experience, alongside y'know not bleeding all over me and possibly being hurt due to her not being used to sex. That's not a jab by the way, just's just what can happen.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
No no no...

Virgin + Virgin = The worst sex. Ever.

I'm not saying you should go trolling for people with experience, but to actually aim for such a catastrophe...

Oh, the humanity.
How the hell you have got enough first hand experience at this to make such sweeping declarations is beyond me...

Were the first few times so bad you didnt count them or something?
 

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So here's my two cents.

1)I (male) had my first time when I was 21, and even though it felt like it at that time, it's NO BIG DEAL to be a virgin at your age, SERIOUSLY! This isn't the space race, and there's nothing to catch up. Sure you're excited, sure you're curious, and sure you are alone, but especially at your age it's not a stiga or anything. I guess I have had more sex since then than many of my friends, and I seem so satisfy my partners.

2)We were each others first, and it was our first love, and the sex ruined it all. Our first time (that worked) wasn't particularily bad, but since we didn't know what to expect we were unsatisfied with our sex life to the point that it destroyed our relationship and our egos at that time. Back then I thought that I was unable to satisfy any woman at all and had issues with it. I still think of her as a great person, an artist, beautiful and smart, but the ground between us turned into scorched earth from all the frustration we had, especially in bed.

3)Girlfriends of mine told me of great times they had with virgins.

4) Each first time is special to me, with every new person, as long as emotions are involved. Even No-Strings-Attached Sex is different the first time, and different from partner to partner.

5) There is more than one chance to find your true love (I doubt that true love dogma anyway)
I thought that my first relationship was it, the only person I'd ever love, and it nearly killed me. Now after some short-term-experments I found a partner that just fits in every aspect, and we both feel that this relationship is the best we ever had. We're about one year now but it feels like I knew this person for the most of my life.
 

elvor0

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ShakyFiend said:
AccursedTheory said:
No no no...

Virgin + Virgin = The worst sex. Ever.

I'm not saying you should go trolling for people with experience, but to actually aim for such a catastrophe...

Oh, the humanity.
How the hell you have got enough first hand experience at this to make such sweeping declarations is beyond me...

Were the first few times so bad you didnt count them or something?
Well, I'd say the guys first hand experience was it actually happen. That and he's generally right, alot of people say that if the couple are both virgins it's generally pretty awkward, obviously if it's with someone you're in a good healthy relationship with it's still going to be special, but looking back on it in retrospective you can chuckle at the hamfisted-ness of the whole situation.
 

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Eighteen and a virgin (well, I sort of had sex at ~8 but I don't feel it's fair to count that time because we were pre-pubescent kids) and I know exactly how you feel. I got selfishly jealous over anything the guys I liked had done/had with anyone else in the past.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a preference for a fellow virgin, but being very jealous kind of says "bawwwwwwwww I'll never be good enough to compare to anyone's ex's so I'll just be bitter and jealous and I'm going to make them feel guilty about it so they can reassure they love me EVEN MORE and I don't know if they even feel the same way". For me, it was exacerbated (or partially caused?) by the fact that I was raised Christian. I feel like I'd be disappointing my parents if I had sex right now, and I'd feel bad if I had a boyfriend who was used to having sex in a relationship and I wasn't living up to his ex. Chaplains and preachers drilled it into us that virginity was something go give away only after marriage, that you keep giving away pieces of you when you have sex. To illustrate emotional baggage, they compared having more than one sex partner with gluing two different coloured pieces of paper together and pulling them apart and showing us all the bits of paper that remained stuck to the other one, and told us to imagine what would happen if we stuck different pieces of paper together multiple times.

I figured that everyone must be "giving away" bits of themselves (well, giving away lack of experience, which is essentially what virginity is) with any kind of intimacy or desire, and in the same way most people get over those smaller things and move on to other people, most move on from losing their virginity to someone else. Sure, they might not have that exact same nervous excitement when you're together, but you can never be sure someone has the exact same balance of chemicals in their brain and all that, so just try to enjoy yourself and it will be more special for them too. Have you had a crush on anyone in the past? Have you seen a naked woman? Have you done anything physical with a girl whatsoever, like hugging? Have you had a girlfriend? How would you feel if you found a girlfriend, and she was bitter about not being the first with all those things too? I think if I found someone who was jealous of my past, I'd feel sad that they'd feel that way and there was absolutely nothing I could do to change the past. If I find someone who I really like and they aren't a virgin, if any of those jealous feelings arise, I've made up my mind not to wallow in them and whine, although I'd rather them just be a virgin too so I won't have to try not to. Like that guy said, if you find someone groovy, who thinks you're groovy, don't worry about it and it will all be groovy (or something). Like, get into the positive vibes, maaan.

I guess from a male perspective, you might feel like it's compromising your manliness if she has more experience than you because you might want to be the knowledgeable, in control one and the next best thing is being equal. Shall I ramble about how gender expectations aren't cool, and all that? Idk. I think if you have any insecurities about anything, they're irrational because obviously you're good enough through her eyes if you're in a relationship with her. If you feel like she's secretly wrestling with judgmental thoughts, stop being paranoid and just try to enjoy yourself.

Ehmm... Also... A How would you feel if there was some kind of contraption that covers someone's entire body (including face) except their genitals with something like wood or metal and some kind of noise barrier, and she had de-personalised sex with whoever was inside? Barring the fact that it would be considered perverted and bizarre. Just curious. Also, how would you feel if she's masturbated a lot? You might not have to be afraid of breaking her down there, or if you're into that kind of thing, you might be disappointed finding nothing to break.

Monkfish Acc. said:
Innegativeion said:
Monkfish Acc. said:
Here's an idea.
Stop thinking about this. It's creepy.

Also, pretty fucking shallow. You're only concerned with the sex. What happens if you meet a girl who you like and who likes you back, you guys get along great and she seems about perfect but LO AND BEHOLD she had the gaul to not be a virgin? What, do you just drop her?

And besides that, it's stupid and unrealistic. You yourself have said most girls by your age will have slept with somebody at some point. Get fucking comfortable with that fact and stop giving a shit because it isn't important.
A virgin fantasizing about his first time feels perfectly not creepy/normal to me...
Anyone thinking about how much they'd love to deflower a virgin is a little creepy to me.

I sure fucking hope that isn't normal because then everyone is creepy.
Am I a creep solely because I'd rather a virgin too? I'm a girl and I have the same reasons as the OP.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
No no no...

Virgin + Virgin = The worst sex. Ever.

I'm not saying you should go trolling for people with experience, but to actually aim for such a catastrophe...

Oh, the humanity.
Someone's first time is not about having sex, it's about losing your virginity in the most loving way. My wife (then girlfriend) and I were both virgins when we did it. 11 years later we're growing stronger and more in love each day.
 

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CODE-D said:
whats up escapos
I am 19 male and a virgin. Now i have no problem with the fact that i am a virgin, the conflict comes from elsewhere. Its that I believe I want another virgin but its not just cause for their virginity, well kind of. its like this
1-I want to be someone elses first too(be that selfish as it may sound)
and knowing that somebody else was their first just sends my mind erratic wondering how they felt about that person or if they look at in regret(which would also worry me)
2-I want somebody with the same exp(which is zero) that way we can explore together and I also want a great long lasting relationship.
3-now the problem comes from my age(19) most girls by now have already done it at least once so I feel as if their is a time clock. What worries me is that ill find the right girl but she'll already have experienced it all and make me feel like an innocent lamb(which is what i dont want)
so any thoughts/advice? besides dont think about or dont let it bother you(that doesnt work or help, i know ive tried several times)
As a virgin, your best bet for any sort of decent time between the sheets is with someone more experienced than you, for blatantly obvious reasons. It's the same reason why learner drivers don't get other learner drivers to teach them how to drive a car. Put aside the "I'm a man therefore I must be the one with more power and control" stuff and you'll be amazed how much you can get out of the experience.

The fact that other people have been with other people is something that you'll learn to get over, it comes with maturity and not being jealous. Jealously is an emotion borne out of "what about meeeee" whininess and you'll conquer that with maturity. Probably.

Your first relationship being long-lasting isn't impossible, but at 19 it's probably wishful thinking at the very least. Good luck finding it, but at the same time don't force yourself to stay in a situation that isn't right for you on that basis alone.

My first relationship with with someone 14 years older than me who had been around the block many many times. It's only very recently that I slept with my first girl who had less experience and to be honest, it wasn't the best sex I'd ever had. Like anything, the more you do it, the better you get.
 

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CODE-D said:
whats up escapos
I am 19 male and a virgin. Now i have no problem with the fact that i am a virgin, the conflict comes from elsewhere. Its that I believe I want another virgin but its not just cause for their virginity, well kind of. its like this
1-I want to be someone elses first too(be that selfish as it may sound)
and knowing that somebody else was their first just sends my mind erratic wondering how they felt about that person or if they look at in regret(which would also worry me)
2-I want somebody with the same exp(which is zero) that way we can explore together and I also want a great long lasting relationship.
3-now the problem comes from my age(19) most girls by now have already done it at least once so I feel as if their is a time clock. What worries me is that ill find the right girl but she'll already have experienced it all and make me feel like an innocent lamb(which is what i dont want)
so any thoughts/advice? besides dont think about or dont let it bother you(that doesnt work or help, i know ive tried several times)
You're really over thinking it. The first time for two people is very special regardless of virginity mixes. I did lose my virginity with another virgin and it was a truly awesome experience, and flattering she actually kept egging me on afterword saying she didn't think it was my first time. BUT with other girls after that every first time we had sex together it was special in its own right. The only thing I can think is never really dig into each-others sexual history beyond asking if your partner is "clean".

On the whole though usually people don't think about other people when they are having sex unless there is something else wrong in the relationship or if you are role playing.
 

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CODE-D said:
whats up escapos
I am 19 male and a virgin. Now i have no problem with the fact that i am a virgin, the conflict comes from elsewhere. Its that I believe I want another virgin but its not just cause for their virginity, well kind of. its like this
1-I want to be someone elses first too(be that selfish as it may sound)
and knowing that somebody else was their first just sends my mind erratic wondering how they felt about that person or if they look at in regret(which would also worry me)
2-I want somebody with the same exp(which is zero) that way we can explore together and I also want a great long lasting relationship.
3-now the problem comes from my age(19) most girls by now have already done it at least once so I feel as if their is a time clock. What worries me is that ill find the right girl but she'll already have experienced it all and make me feel like an innocent lamb(which is what i dont want)
so any thoughts/advice? besides dont think about or dont let it bother you(that doesnt work or help, i know ive tried several times)
I was twenty. So was she. Both virgins. Not that tough, really. You just need to find women who actually waited until they had a serious relationship. And an ACTUAL serious relationship. Not High school serious.
 

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Im 20 and still a virgin...I do kind of feel like I have 'missed the boat' when most of my friends are no longer virgins (although I still ahve a few virgin friends).

Although I don't feel the need to lose my virginity to another virgin. It doesnt matter if they have had sex before (as long as its not with MANY people because then they are a slut and sluts are unattractive to me).

The thing is, I know of a few girls that like me...however, they already have (long-lasting)boyfriends and I don't see them breaking up anytime soon. So its a bit of a dilemma for me as all the good girls I know of are taken and the ones that aren't well...aren't the ones I want to lose my virginity to...
 

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I'm one year older and also a virgin but I don't think you should worry about it. I know you might not like it, but it's not worth bothering about. I'd say focus on finding a girl who really cares about you and vice versa. I could have lost my virginity when I was 18 (or maybe younger if I wasn't awful at reading signals), but I turned it down cause I realised I didn't just want to fuck some person I met like 2 days before. Or in one case, some girl in a club I didn't know.

Plus, look at the advantages of a more experienced girl - it's less likely to be painful or uncomfortable for her, she'll have some idea of what she likes etc.
 

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Do like commander Shepard. Whatever it takes, renegade style. I know a guy who was virgin for, say, 21 years, he couldn't bear staying like that or grew tired of it and hired a hooker. Now that's confronting your problems.
BTW huge spoiler: Sex is like a penis inside a vagina. Just putting that out there.
 

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a man's virginity is a truly terrible thing, to be cast away with the first female that will take it. find someone, anyone, and get rid.
 

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Mackheath said:
AccursedTheory said:
No no no...

Virgin + Virgin = The worst sex. Ever.

I'm not saying you should go trolling for people with experience, but to actually aim for such a catastrophe...

Oh, the humanity.
I love the irony of your title to this topic.

OT: *sigh* Just go out and get laid. Stop fussing that you'll be shit in bed and go for someone who can teach you. Preferably someone a few years older, as they tend to be more understanding than people your own age or younger.
You know, people tell me that every other thread.

That's how I know I picked a good one.
 

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Ambi said:
Monkfish Acc. said:
Innegativeion said:
Monkfish Acc. said:
Here's an idea.
Stop thinking about this. It's creepy.

Also, pretty fucking shallow. You're only concerned with the sex. What happens if you meet a girl who you like and who likes you back, you guys get along great and she seems about perfect but LO AND BEHOLD she had the gaul to not be a virgin? What, do you just drop her?

And besides that, it's stupid and unrealistic. You yourself have said most girls by your age will have slept with somebody at some point. Get fucking comfortable with that fact and stop giving a shit because it isn't important.
A virgin fantasizing about his first time feels perfectly not creepy/normal to me...
Anyone thinking about how much they'd love to deflower a virgin is a little creepy to me.

I sure fucking hope that isn't normal because then everyone is creepy.
Am I a creep solely because I'd rather a virgin too? I'm a girl and I have the same reasons as the OP.
Yes.

Hope you weren't expecting different.
 

Ambi

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Monkfish Acc. said:
Ambi said:
Monkfish Acc. said:
Innegativeion said:
Monkfish Acc. said:
Here's an idea.
Stop thinking about this. It's creepy.

Also, pretty fucking shallow. You're only concerned with the sex. What happens if you meet a girl who you like and who likes you back, you guys get along great and she seems about perfect but LO AND BEHOLD she had the gaul to not be a virgin? What, do you just drop her?

And besides that, it's stupid and unrealistic. You yourself have said most girls by your age will have slept with somebody at some point. Get fucking comfortable with that fact and stop giving a shit because it isn't important.
A virgin fantasizing about his first time feels perfectly not creepy/normal to me...
Anyone thinking about how much they'd love to deflower a virgin is a little creepy to me.

I sure fucking hope that isn't normal because then everyone is creepy.
Am I a creep solely because I'd rather a virgin too? I'm a girl and I have the same reasons as the OP.
Yes.

Hope you weren't expecting different.
How does it make us creeps?

I wouldn't refuse to accept someone because they weren't a virgin, and I'm not only concerned with sex.
 

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I might be the only person on this side of it, haven't read all the posts, but I don't think it's a terrible idea, but you also don't want to miss out on good relationships just because you'd rather do some cherry popping. My girlfriend and I are 20 and both virgins, and we're both aware that it's going to be rather amusing when we finally decide to have our first time. lol If you're okay with your first time being more awkwardly amusing in a "Oh, shit that was embarrassing" kind of way than amazing and special, then pursue this line of thought (but again, it's not worth it if someone else would be better).