"Virginity test" helps to free 3 convicted rapists

[Tharwen]

Well that has to be the least logical conclusion of anything I've heard all week...

 

[Dogmeat T Dingo]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the dangers of treating quackery with anything other than instant dismissal.

And yes, maybe they WERE innocent, but that just shows there needs to be serious reform to ensure these sorts of things are looked at without the need for loons randomly reopening old cases.

 

[Lawyer105]

Weren't the prosecutors the ones who re-opened an old case because some nutjob said that if you're a virgin you have red dots behind your ears?

If anyone believes that, they are stupid. (In my opinion)

Maybe is wasn't the prosecutors who made the decision to re-open the case and if so then I was wrong.

And the fact that it turned out that the men were innocent is irrelevant.

1) Read it again. The prosecutors apparently reopened the case on the orders of the president. While I quite agree that the accupuncturist and the president are raving lunatics, don't beat on the prosecutors who are doing their jobs.

2) How is being innocent irrelevant?? If I was innocent of a crime, and my case got reexamined because somebody said that the little grey men told them to, I'd still be happy, and justice would (finally) have been served!

 

[SonicWaffle]

Would you rather have an accupuncterist lighting herself on fire than 3 innocent men walking free? It's not like they base the convictions on that bat-shit crazy *****'s obsession, rather she just re-opened the case.

They had to take it seriously enough to re-open a case, and I think you're underestimating just how significant that is. But hell, I don't know what Vietnam's like, maybe this sort of thing is standard procedure for them. I assume not. I hope not.

And frankly, if she really does set herself on fire, chances are she really is crazy, not just deluded. Keep in mind this woman is an acupuncturist. She makes a living out of sticking sharp things in people while they hold absolutely still. Not exactly the best career to have crazy in.

The article does mention that acupuncture and other such "natural medicines" are still widely used in Vietnam.

What really worries me is that A) the article claims that the Vietnamese press are taking her 'magic dot' theory completely seriously, without even a hint of scepticism, and B) the potential effect on future rape cases. Think about it; a truly sick individual gets to go free because he has the magic dot, whereas an innocent man goes to prison because he doesn't have the dot, and is therefore obviously the guy who committed the rape.

 

[Ekit]

Weren't the prosecutors the ones who re-opened an old case because some nutjob said that if you're a virgin you have red dots behind your ears?

If anyone believes that, they are stupid. (In my opinion)

Maybe is wasn't the prosecutors who made the decision to re-open the case and if so then I was wrong.

And the fact that it turned out that the men were innocent is irrelevant.

1) Read it again. The prosecutors apparently reopened the case on the orders of the president. While I quite agree that the accupuncturist and the president are raving lunatics, don't beat on the prosecutors who are doing their jobs.

Ok, then I was wrong. The president is an idiot.

2) How is being innocent irrelevant?? If I was innocent of a crime, and my case got reexamined because somebody said that the little grey men told them to, I'd still be happy, and justice would (finally) have been served!

Because they re-opened it for the wrong reasons. It was pure luck that they turned out to be innocent.

I don't know, but I think it costs alot of money to re-open a closed case.

And if they had been guilty, which was the most probable outcome, they would have either wasted lots of money on comfirming something they already knew.

Or wasted lots of money to get three men guilty of gang rape back out on the streets before they had served their time.

 

[SonicWaffle]

So someones Vagina has enough power to take a physical feature and make it dissapear forever? That just sounds absurd...

Im sure I made a sex joke in the somewhere... But Im not sure where....

Maybe it got lost inside the magic vagina? Later someone will put our your joke, like a rabbit from a top hat...

 

[Woodsey]

Looks like she did the right thing, since the men were set free when the case was re-opened. She helped 3, likely innocent, men get their freedom. I'd say the end justified the means here.

I hope this is a joke.

It's a highly serious case that got re-examined because of some utter nonsense. It should never have been re-opened for something like this.

 

[crobulator]

wow that is dumb seriously though people actually buy into this shit?!?!?

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

This is the frankly insane story of a Vietnamese acupuncturist who believes that a man who is yet to have sex (heterosexual, that is - gay sex and masturbation apparently don't count)

What if they raped her through the back door?

Perhaps vaginas are magical?

What? You didn't already know this?

 

[Cody211282]

See this is why I think acupuncture and the like is completely restarted and does nothing.

 

[Secret world leader (shhh)]

Really...REALLY?

I can't take this level of stupid any longer *swallows frag grenade*

 

[Phoenixlight]

Stupid woman...shouldn't help rapists.

 

[crudus]

Ok, I am not one to shoot down stupid idea immediately. What does the red dot signify? How does it know to go away after sex? Is that where our sexual frustration chi gathers?

"They all had small red spots on the back of their ears," said Hong, 54. "The spots should have disappeared if they had had sex. My many years of experience told me that these men did not have sex before."

I like how definitive she is being here. What about assault? Rape isn't just the act of sex; there usually is considerable force involve.

What if they raped her through the back door?

Or used an object rather than his penis.

 

[HotFezz8]

In totally unrelated news, the amount of red marker pens being smuggled into Vitnamese prisons has mysteriously risen by almost 300%...

LOL!! :-D a author with a sense of humour! I like this thread :-D

OT: a) good effort for adding a reference

b) what utter bollocks. so when would this spot "vanish"? when the girl gets naked? or at entry? or what? and it just disapears within seconds???

 

[Sebenko]

This is the frankly insane story of a Vietnamese acupuncturist who believes that a man who is yet to have sex (heterosexual, that is - gay sex and masturbation apparently don't count)

What if they raped her through the back door?

Perhaps vaginas are magical?

What? You didn't already know this?

I'm afraid I suffer from a terrible condition known as "being gay".

It has severely hindered my research into the strange creatures known as "women".

Luckily, I don't have to deal with them when I want sex. They're complicated and confusing.

 

[SonicWaffle]

Stupid woman...shouldn't help rapists.

Or in this case, innocent men who spent a decade in prison after being accused of rape. Sure, her reasons for believing they were innocent are retarded, and this is all indicative of a deeply flawed legal system, but I think we can all agree that the end result was a positive one.

Ok, I am not one to shoot down stupid idea immediately. What does the red dot signify? How does it know to go away after sex? Is that where our sexual frustration chi gathers?

What makes even less sense is her original method, before she discovered the magic dot; she would take the man's pulse, and this would tell her whether or not the dude was a virgin. I imagine that the Vietnamese version of Jerry Springer will be saving a lot of money on lie detector tests now that this woman is around...

I like how definitive she is being here. What about assault? Rape isn't just the act of sex; there usually is considerable force involve.

What if they raped her through the back door?

Or used an object rather than his penis.

It seems odd that objects would be used in gang-rape. You'd think that, if a bunch of guys went out prowling for a victim, they'd be more about the sex and showing off to one another than about the power aspect. Not that I'm an expert or anything...

 

[SonicWaffle]

I'm afraid I suffer from a terrible condition known as "being gay".

It has severely hindered my research into the strange creatures known as "women".

Luckily, I don't have to deal with them when I want sex. They're complicated and confusing.

Sure, but in fairness, so are men. We just hide it better.

Unless you mean that vaginas are complicated and confusing, in which case I fully agree! As a friend of mine says, "There are just too many wrinkles"

 

[Sebenko]

Sure, but in fairness, so are men. We just hide it better.

Unless you mean that vaginas are complicated and confusing, in which case I fully agree! As a friend of mine says, "There are just too many wrinkles"

Both.

Though I have no evidence that men are complicated at all. We don't mean the opposite of what we say constantly ("Is something wrong?" "No, which means that there actually is but I won't tell you"), and this concept of "foreplay" is a mystery to me. Is a Quake deathmatch not good enough?

And don't get me started on all the weird stuff they buy. Shoes... and all that stuff to look after their confusing bits. I mean, what the hell is with that?

 

[KaiRai]

Well, that's one way to tell if you're 14 and you think you're friends are talking a load of old nonsense....

 

[WolfThomas]

Well...shit, what is there to say. I thought this would be something that there could be serious debate around, for example a virginity test on the girl (though that still wouldn't prove anything) or something. But this women is a nutjob.