Warhammer 40k Imperial Guard vs Space Marines
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i guess it would be really brutal since the space marines would excel at halting the IGs advance and disrupting their supplies but ultimately they cannot win.
this is a course assuming the IG have proper supply lines and the support of all the imperial institutions they rely upon to do everything but sit in a ditch and die by the millions.
this is a course assuming the IG have proper supply lines and the support of all the imperial institutions they rely upon to do everything but sit in a ditch and die by the millions.
Steeltrap said:
Basically this. IG would win in the end as Marines can't replenish their ranks as quickly as IG will be able to over an extended period.Ordinaryundone said:
Easy, IG has Commissar Cain. He accidentally wins the war while trying to find a nice whorehouse.
Those actions won't ever win you a war on their own though, at the end of the day you need to be able to take and hold territory lest you be forever at risk of becoming enveloped.Pharsalus said:
Also it should be noted that only a single Space Marine chapter, Raven Guard, fights like how you mention. Unconventional tactics and guerrilla warfare are viewed as beneath most space marines, some like the Black Templars don't even have scouts.
I am sure the Imperial guard have some sort of deep secret lore thingy nobobdy has every heard about as a failsafe gene to exterminate the Space-marines, but has said nothing for the fear of causing such a civil war.
So imperial guard wins..
So imperial guard wins..
Ain't much of a discussion, sm ain't meant for long drawn fights and don't have the numbers.
Sm would win the first few engagements and then drown in a tide of ig infantry and tanks and artillery.
Meanwhile orks watch the whole thing and feel insulted that no one invited them to join the fun.
Sm would win the first few engagements and then drown in a tide of ig infantry and tanks and artillery.
Meanwhile orks watch the whole thing and feel insulted that no one invited them to join the fun.
Well in Dawn of War 1 the imperial guardsman get demoralised so easily they would just get roflstomped by the Space Marines who can just rally and get their morale back.
1,000 chapters with 1,000 marines, roughly 1,000,000 Marines. Versus Trillions of guardsmen.
If each Marine took a thousand guardsmen to his grave, they still wouldn't have killed all the guardsmen.
There is also the fact that the guardsmen can recruit from anywhere, in great numbers, and quickly.
The marines, need very specific individuals to be trained for years. . .and they might not make it.
This isn't even a "special forces" vs "Regulars" Debate. This is more of a WWII style Germany vs. Allies. Germany, ferocious fighters with extremely well made (for the most part) technology. Against . . .well everything.
No matter how good your weapons, how skilled your fighters. . .none of it matters when your drowning in enemy soldiers, and you ran out of ammo 5 days ago.
If each Marine took a thousand guardsmen to his grave, they still wouldn't have killed all the guardsmen.
There is also the fact that the guardsmen can recruit from anywhere, in great numbers, and quickly.
The marines, need very specific individuals to be trained for years. . .and they might not make it.
This isn't even a "special forces" vs "Regulars" Debate. This is more of a WWII style Germany vs. Allies. Germany, ferocious fighters with extremely well made (for the most part) technology. Against . . .well everything.
No matter how good your weapons, how skilled your fighters. . .none of it matters when your drowning in enemy soldiers, and you ran out of ammo 5 days ago.
.Depends on which version of each you're using.Steeltrap said:
If the forces involved are as depicted by Our Spiritual Liege, then the Space Marines would win easily, with absolutely no fatalities, since the single casualty would be interred in a Dreadnaught.
If we're using the Caiaphas Cain or Gaunt's Ghosts novels as base however (read: something moderately "realistic"), then it'd likely go to the Guard.
Believe it or not, the Imperial Guard is the single most effective military force in the 40k galaxy. Each individual guardsman is kinda pathetic in the grand scheme of things, but there's trillions upon trillions of them, with the logistical infrastructure to match. They can and will kill anything and everything in the galaxy in a straight 1v1 fight, over a long enough period of time.
Yes and no. The Sisters of Battle were originally conceived as the Ecclesiarchy's answer to a restriction that banned them from employing "men at arms". The short version is that one of the High Lords of Terra dicked over the entire Imperium and nobody wanted to see it happen again, so they banned the Ecclesiarchy from having a military force. They got around the ban by hiring women instead.Glademaster said:
As part of being a member of the Ecclesiarchy (read: The Church), the Adepta Sororitas primary function is to suppress/find/destroy heretics. As a consequence, they almost exclusively are used against Chaos worshipers. They rarely, if ever, intentionally see battle against any of the Xenos.
They're also a lot less effective than Spehss Mehreenz, due to the lack of augmentations. They get power armor of a similar level, but that's about it.