Was it Homophobic?

[Para199x]

Surely the only way for them to be equal is for people to not care, I don't care about a straight person's sexuality surely it'd be equal only if I didn't care about a gay's.

If nobody cared, gay rights would go absolutely nowhere because no one would care to change anything. People have to care about equality if we're ever going to get full social equality. Which is what the whole ad is about.

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You've misunderstood me, that may be my fault if so my apologies. I meant true equality would mean that it wasn't cared about at all (as in the sexuality) yeah some people have to care now to give legal rights but once that's done, for true equality, people have to not care, because they don't care about straight peoples sexuality.

 

[Arsen]

A straight male or female might not find the thought of making out with the same sex to be appeasing. It's revolting on some level (depending on who you ask), but as long as you harbor no true hatred for the individuals as human beings then you're perfectly alright.

Edit - By revolting I mean on a person to person basis. Don't fill up my inbox with quotes because you don't get what I mean.

 

[jawakiller]

Don't ask, don't tell. Go ahead, be gay if thats your thing but don't expect me to give a fuck. If they get in my face about it well, sometimes you gotta say "Yeah I'm homophobic, so what?" (Those narrow minded gays should tolerate my straightness) Does somebody have a problem tolerating my intolerance? Looks like I don't give a shit... But really, I am serious about that.

 

[robot slipper]

The best poster campaign I have ever seen was the one that was up in the UK a while back. No picture, the billboards simply said "Some People Are Gay. Get Over It." in big letters. Simple, but effective way of getting the message across!

 

[Sion_Barzahd]

Your friend, not at all homophobic, he has every right to be uncomfortable with it, as long as he doesn't turn that feeling of being uncomfortable into persecution.
As for you, gotta say you sounded like a bit of a homophobe there.

 

[BellHooks]

A friend of mine saw a very provocative gay rights poster in our school. He was two gay men dressed as hockey players making out. He asked me if was homophobic if he felt uncomfortable with it . I told him " It's fine to be uncomfortable with it, you're not a gay basher so I don't see a problem". I knew which poster he was talking about. I told him " It pissed me off, but for a different reason". The poster said "Homophobia is a social disease".When I saw it I thought to myself " fuck you, just because a person isn't down with who you are does not make them socially diseased."

That poster just really bothers me in general. It's really in your face. I understand the fact that the homosexual community hasn't had it easy, but I don't think you need to be all up in peoples face about it. You're homosexual, big fucking deal ( i'm in Canada).I almost want to rip that poster down. Your part of the human fucking race, you sexuality in meaningless and none of my concern.

In short; Is okay to be uncomfortable with homosexuality. I say yes.

I'm most likely wrong somewhere in here. I do enjoy other peoples perspective in such things, and love expanding my own perspective.

Is it okay to be uncomfortable with heterosexuality?

Is it okay to be uncomfortable with straight white people kissing or holding hands?

What if I find that disgusting?

 

[PinkiePyro]

It's not a disease to feel uncomfortable, though I hardly see a reason why anyone should be uncomfortable, but hey, not everyone was raised to adore transvestites. :3

Calling Homophobia a disease is just rude. It's the same thing as calling homosexuality a disease. It's not something you can control, it's a feeling. And feeling uncomfortable about sexuality, especially if it differs from your own, is common.

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I have not seen this poster in question but it sounds just wrong as a school should not display anyone gay or straight making out


as for effctive ads I like the ads that are agnist the use of gay as a insult
here's the youtube version of my favorite one

{youtube}http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ejCqgAKZ-M&feature=relmfu {/youtube}

 

[DarkenedWolfEye]

In short; Is okay to be uncomfortable with homosexuality. I say yes.

I'm most likely wrong somewhere in here. I do enjoy other peoples perspective in such things, and love expanding my own perspective.

Is it okay to be uncomfortable with heterosexuality?

Is it okay to be uncomfortable with straight white people kissing or holding hands?

What if I find that disgusting?

Frankly, I don't think homophobia is defined by whether it makes you uncomfortable. Our sexual tastes are personal to us, and trying to imagine someone else having sexual tastes so different makes us feel uncomfortable at first. That isn't hate; it's only natural. What's key is either getting used to the idea or admitting that it's really none of your business. I myself am not gay, therefore I don't think I even have the right to call gay people 'disgusting' because I don't know anything about it firsthand and it's got nothing to do with me. I shouldn't care, so I don't.
So, my bottom line is that being uncomfortable isn't hate. Speaking out against something that doesn't involve you that, frankly, you know nothing about is true hate.

 

[BellHooks]

Frankly, I don't think homophobia is defined by whether it makes you uncomfortable. Our sexual tastes are personal to us, and trying to imagine someone else having sexual tastes so different makes us feel uncomfortable at first. That isn't hate; it's only natural. What's key is either getting used to the idea or admitting that it's really none of your business. I myself am not gay, therefore I don't think I even have the right to call gay people 'disgusting' because I don't know anything about it firsthand and it's got nothing to do with me. I shouldn't care, so I don't.
So, my bottom line is that being uncomfortable isn't hate. Speaking out against something that doesn't involve you that, frankly, you know nothing about is true hate.

I agree completely with you.

The problem with this thread is that the discussion was framed poorly/improperly from the very first post.

 

[Aiden_the-Joker1]

Sure feeling uncomfortable with homosexuality is perfectly fine. If you tolerate homosexuality then there is no problem, you do not have to like homosexuals to tolerate them.

 

[Amphoteric]

Saying you dislike homosexuals doesn't make any sense AT ALL. I don't understand why your opinion of a long time friend for example would change if you knew they were gay. What reason do you have to care at all?

 

[bossdirge]

I would just make my own poster about something else that people don't tolerate. Like Satanism. Most people Satan-phobic. I would make a poster of someone doing some kind of satanic ritual and write a caption about how it's a social disease to hate on Satanists.

I think a lot of people have a problem with "in your face gayness", and some of them don't even know why they feel that way. I don't think it neccesarily makes you homophobic.

 

[BellHooks]

I think a lot of people have a problem with "in your face gayness", and some of them don't even know why they feel that way. I don't think it neccesarily makes you homophobic.

Isn't that just a manifestation of straight privilege?

After all, we are far more bombarded with "in your face straightness" on a daily basis than anything else when it comes to sexual imagery and social behavior.

If you can't treat people with respect and dignity because their race makes you uncomfortable, then you're racist.

Why is it magically different for sexual minorities?

 

[gazumped]

The poster said "Homophobia is a social disease".When I saw it I thought to myself " fuck you, just because a person isn't down with who you are does not make them socially diseased."

But... social means how people interact with each other, saying an individual is 'socially diseased' makes no sense at all... you seem to feel that the poster is insulting people when the very wording its used means it can't possibly be doing that, surely. If homophobia or any kind of bigotry or 'not being down with who others are' means that it causes rifts between people then that's exactly what a social disease - or a dis ease between the interaction of people - is.

But, yeah, not being okay with seeing too guys making out certainly doesn't make someone homophobic - if you want to get into a bit of sciencey, biology stuff here, the reason why a lot of (straight) guys get turned on by two girls getting it on is that they like seeing females in a sexual situation but if they see another guy there they perceive the male as a threat and a turn off. So seeing two guys making out is going to put you in the situation of thinking about sex with only the turn offs there, of course that won't make you happy. I'd be willing to bet that your friend wouldn't hugely mind if the kissing homosexuals portrayed on that poster were female. X)

 

[Sneeze]

With no actual image of the poster its hard to say, if its as "in your face" as you make out then fair enough, I'd be inclined to agree.

BUT all that being said, sexualisation is everywhere and happens on a day-to-day basis, you see straight couples making out everywhere. I'm not complaining, it doesn't affect me either way when I do see it I just glance over it a move on but if it is ok to have such things happening, why is it not the same for gay couples?

Of course, it depends on how in your face it really is, if we're talking soft porn here, that is a completely different story.

 

[Dragonclaw]

I have no problem whatsoever with light displays of affection. Feel free to hold hands, hug, heck even kiss a bit (no need to swallow each others faces no matter the people involved. I do think that there are certainly segments who set their own cause of acceptance back almost intentionally by seeing what they can do to "freak people out"...having pride is GREAT...leading each other around in leashes while spanking each other in assless chaps is not going to help anyone be seen as normal...and for the record there's nothing at all wrong with a bit of BDSM, but I don't think parading it down the street is appropriate.

This article in The Onion makes a lot of sense

http://www.theonion.com/articles/gaypride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays,351/

 

[BellHooks]

I have no problem whatsoever with light displays of affection. Feel free to hold hands, hug, heck even kiss a bit (no need to swallow each others faces no matter the people involved. I do think that there are certainly segments who set their own cause of acceptance back almost intentionally by seeing what they can do to "freak people out"...having pride is GREAT...leading each other around in leashes while spanking each other in assless chaps is not going to help anyone be seen as normal...and for the record there's nothing at all wrong with a bit of BDSM, but I don't think parading it down the street is appropriate.

This article in The Onion makes a lot of sense

http://www.theonion.com/articles/gaypride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays,351/

You do realize that The Onion is a satirical news source, right?

Do you think all the crazy sex we see in television, movies, music, and video games have led to heterosexual acceptance being set back?

 

[Sneeze]

I have no problem whatsoever with light displays of affection. Feel free to hold hands, hug, heck even kiss a bit (no need to swallow each others faces no matter the people involved. I do think that there are certainly segments who set their own cause of acceptance back almost intentionally by seeing what they can do to "freak people out"...having pride is GREAT...leading each other around in leashes while spanking each other in assless chaps is not going to help anyone be seen as normal...and for the record there's nothing at all wrong with a bit of BDSM, but I don't think parading it down the street is appropriate.

This article in The Onion makes a lot of sense

http://www.theonion.com/articles/gaypride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays,351/

You do realize that The Onion is a satirical news source, right?

Satire is often the best way to make a point. I do actually completely agree with it.

 

[BellHooks]

Satire is often the best way to make a point. I do actually completely agree with it.

Well as long as you're comfortable with being made fun of by the Onion, more power to you.