Watch_Dogs is quite simply AMAZING!!!

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Zhukov

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SonicWaffle said:
Vault101 said:
SonicWaffle said:
Sadly, you have been misled. Aiden's neice gets offed to provide him with motivation (which is exactly what you'd expect) and the nephew sticks around to get his own subplot about how he deals with the trauma of losing his sister. The kids' mum is also there, but - from the parts I played, at least - she serves only to provide Aiden with additional "grr me am man, me am protector" motivation by existing simply for villains to threaten.

As you say; progress!
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they've clearly implemented AI's to write their shit for them....that or no one was trying
But wait! There is a female character who is totally badass and independent! You can tell because she uses a male online name and dresses like a punk and has sexual tension with the male lead! She's totally not supposed to remind anyone of Trinity! It's progressive!
She actually reminded me of Lisbet Salander (sp?) from The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

It's funny though, as soon as I heard the modulated voice, I thought, "We're going to meet that character and it's going to be a chick."

And so it did come to pass.
 

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She actually reminded me of Lisbet Salander (sp?) from The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.
Same, but I think that's because the visual design was clearly attempting to invoke the connection. The Trinity comparison derives more from the hacker-everyone-thinks-is-a-dude-is-actually-a-chick thing, because a woman using a computer?! Surely her frail feminine mind would shatter and her ovaries would explode! Plus sexual "chemistry" with the male hacker lead. See also, if I'm remembering my crappy 90s movies correctly, Acid Burn of Hackers.

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It's funny though, as soon as I heard the modulated voice, I thought, "We're going to meet that character and it's going to be a chick."

And so it did come to pass.
It didn't actually occur to me, but that's because I assumed the mysterious voice would stay mysterious and turn out to be part of a bad-guy collective or morally grey like the Anonymous rip-off. Having it revealed so early felt pretty flat to be honest. Why bother trying to build a sense of mystery only to get bored with it 30 minutes into the game and reveal the identity of the person?
 

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No, sorry, Watch Dogs is pretty lame.

My biggest problem with the entire game is simple: There are camera's EVERYWHERE in this city, its under basically 100% surveillance at all times. How do people spend there day inside this city of Chicago? Talking on the phone openly about the crimes they HAVE or are ABOUT to commit.

I dunno about you, but my pot dealer is safer then these people in this game.

Its moronic.

The mechanics are "good enough" most of the time, but the plot is dull and the action is repetitive, so I don't have much desire to play much more of it. I played literally like 3-4 missions of the campaign and I feel like I've experienced everything the game has to offer. I like the arcade driving, allows me to whip around traffic and have fun, but its not remotely realistic. The "hacking" stuff is mostly pretty lame. Press Square to blow up dude who randomly carries around a grenade with electronic equipment on it that can remote detonate it?seems like a GREAT idea in a world like this?if you don't like your limbs that it. Why do people make so many random explosive devices and just leave them laying around all over the place? Seems pretty dumb.

GTA5 at least had interesting story and characters to hold your attention. The online sucked, but I mostly hate online anyway so I could care less, either way, GTA5 was a better game. I barely need to go further than comparing the vehicles. You seem that "sports car" in Watch Dogs that looks like it was made from a PS1 model? So ugly. The cars in GTA5 looked great.

Watch Dogs is an okay game, its simply OK. But its far far FAR from great. 5.5/10 at best.

For a fun time, find the train in Watch Dogs and attempt get run over by it?pro tip: You can't, it stops DEAD the moment you step in front of it. Game reeks of half-assed effort.
 

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Vault101 said:
Zhukov said:
The story is fucking awful. You are Aiden Pearce, a thirty something brown-haired white guy at large! Someone killed your family member (a nephew this time, how refreshing!) and now you're out for revenge! The dialogue makes my mute button finger twitch.
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a nephew? a guy?

YAY!!!! PROGRESS!!!

[sub/]I take what I can get K?[/sub]
Y'know, when you edit a quote into your post, it doesn't send the pucker-up-you've-been-quoted notification message.

Anyway, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disappoint you. It's a girl who gets killed. His niece. When I was typing that I, err... kinda forgot that "nephew" was a gendered term. My bad.

Oh, don't look at me like that Miss I Don't Need No Stinkin' Full Stops. I make mistakes too.

I was being sarcastic about it being refreshing, since it wasn't his own wife and/or kid who bought it but it hardly makes any difference.
 

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Also, to anyone claiming how "next-gen" Botch Dogs is, check this out. Have a good laugh on me.

 

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My biggest problem with the entire game is simple: There are camera's EVERYWHERE in this city, its under basically 100% surveillance at all times. How do people spend there day inside this city of Chicago? Talking on the phone openly about the crimes they HAVE or are ABOUT to commit.

I dunno about you, but my pot dealer is safer then these people in this game.
More to the point, if this is the ever-connected surveillance state of the future where everyone is constantly watched, how is it possible for Aiden to escape the cops at all? They initiate camera searches in random, shifting areas only after losing sight of him rather than immediately patching in an observer whenever a crime occurs. You'd think that "this guy just shot a bunch of security guards" would warrant at least a little bit of attention from whoever monitors the cameras. If they can get a helicopter to your position and fill the city with blockades within .3 seconds of a crime, it doesn't make any sense that they'd neglect their all-powerful surveillance grid as a tool for catching criminals.

Not that I'm complaining from a gameplay perspective, the cops don't need to be any more overpowered than they already are without making the game unplayable. Just bugs me from a narrative point of view.
 

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SonicWaffle said:
Zenn3k said:
My biggest problem with the entire game is simple: There are camera's EVERYWHERE in this city, its under basically 100% surveillance at all times. How do people spend there day inside this city of Chicago? Talking on the phone openly about the crimes they HAVE or are ABOUT to commit.

I dunno about you, but my pot dealer is safer then these people in this game.
More to the point, if this is the ever-connected surveillance state of the future where everyone is constantly watched, how is it possible for Aiden to escape the cops at all? They initiate camera searches in random, shifting areas only after losing sight of him rather than immediately patching in an observer whenever a crime occurs. You'd think that "this guy just shot a bunch of security guards" would warrant at least a little bit of attention from whoever monitors the cameras. If they can get a helicopter to your position and fill the city with blockades within .3 seconds of a crime, it doesn't make any sense that they'd neglect their all-powerful surveillance grid as a tool for catching criminals.
They actually kinda cover this one.

Aiden apparently uses some kind of all-powerful jammer to prevent him being spotted by cameras. If you hack a camera and look at him he shows up all pixelated.

Although you'd think whoever was watching the monitors would catch on before long. "Oh shit, it's the blurry guy! HQ, send a zillion SWAT teams to the location of camera #774026."
 

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Zhukov said:
SonicWaffle said:
Zenn3k said:
My biggest problem with the entire game is simple: There are camera's EVERYWHERE in this city, its under basically 100% surveillance at all times. How do people spend there day inside this city of Chicago? Talking on the phone openly about the crimes they HAVE or are ABOUT to commit.

I dunno about you, but my pot dealer is safer then these people in this game.
More to the point, if this is the ever-connected surveillance state of the future where everyone is constantly watched, how is it possible for Aiden to escape the cops at all? They initiate camera searches in random, shifting areas only after losing sight of him rather than immediately patching in an observer whenever a crime occurs. You'd think that "this guy just shot a bunch of security guards" would warrant at least a little bit of attention from whoever monitors the cameras. If they can get a helicopter to your position and fill the city with blockades within .3 seconds of a crime, it doesn't make any sense that they'd neglect their all-powerful surveillance grid as a tool for catching criminals.
They actually kinda cover this one.

Aiden apparently uses some kind of all-powerful jammer to prevent him being spotted by cameras. If you hack a camera and look at him he shows up all pixelated.

Although you'd think whoever was watching the monitors would catch on before long. "Oh shit, it's the blurry guy! HQ, send a zillion SWAT teams to the location of camera #774026."
I had spotted that, but thought it might have been something to do with removing himself from their databases hence having no information on him. Still, even with the blurring, AFAIK it never manages to blur whichever vehicle he's using, even though cops generally can pinpoint it in an instant and report that back to the camera operators.

Of course, there really aren't that many cameras either. Pretty sure my small town has way more visible cameras than future-Chicago, and would be even harder to lose yourself in. For a surveillance state, that's a pretty lax error...
 

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It's definitely a good game, but it's not amazing. The driving is absolutely horrible, it's not the controls, it's just the way the vehicles handle in game, so quit with the "learn how to drive" crap. The vehicles handle like you're driving on a perpetually icy road. Missions being open ended is absolutely bollocks. Take the prison mission for example where you're forced stealth through, even after you pick up a gun, and if you get seen the mission ends. Yes, you can finally start using guns in that mission, but only after it tells you you can. Or the enemies you HAVE to knock down and nothing else, if you kill them it's mission over. Also, Aiden has the HP of a soggy teabag and the full body armoured guys are just tedious and take to long to die unless you shoot them with a grenade launcher.

Even when you're just roaming doing side missions you get forced into stuff you don't want to. For example I was just about do to a criminal convoy and when I got there it tells me the mission is locked because I'm being hacked by some invading fixer and I had to go find them, even though I didn't want to. I wanted to do the criminal convoy, that's why I fucking went there. I don't like the little rep system, because it makes me not want to kill cops, even when they're in my way, because I don't want my rep to go down and it goes down if you kill them. Though most of my negative rep has come from civilian injuries or deaths after I've done a handbrake turn and my car gracefully slid off its oil slick road and splatted someone against a shop window.

So yeah, Watch Dogs is a good game, really good even. But it isn't amazing or genre defining, it has its problems and minor annoyances like any game.
 

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It looks pretty meh too. But I guess that's to be expected. It takes time for developers to start really taking advantage of next gen hardware.
About the only nice things I can say about it that the city does feel more alive than most of what you see in most open world games and there's an absolute ton of content on offer.
Except the developers had around an entire year to optimize for new hardware and still couldn't get a whole lot out. Also, such an "alive" city sounds like GTA, where you can find people getting arrested, taking phone calls, getting groceries, or street cleaning. It doesn't really matter when you can find a car or something to hack just about anywhere.
So it's just like a previous-gen city "sandbox" game with hacking things. Sounds fair to me.
 

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The game is boring and dull, even the whole "control the city" gimmick boils down to changing a few traffic lights now and again and finding out what an NPC's salary is by pointing the cursor. It just feels very sterile to me.

Biggest let down of the year so far for me. And that includes Lightning Returns......
 

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SonicWaffle said:
Vault101 said:
SonicWaffle said:
Sadly, you have been misled. Aiden's neice gets offed to provide him with motivation (which is exactly what you'd expect) and the nephew sticks around to get his own subplot about how he deals with the trauma of losing his sister. The kids' mum is also there, but - from the parts I played, at least - she serves only to provide Aiden with additional "grr me am man, me am protector" motivation by existing simply for villains to threaten.

As you say; progress!
[img/]http://replygif.net/i/1370.gif[/img]

they've clearly implemented AI's to write their shit for them....that or no one was trying
But wait! There is a female character who is totally badass and independent! You can tell because she uses a male online name and dresses like a punk and has sexual tension with the male lead! She's totally not supposed to remind anyone of Trinity! It's progressive!

I sold the game before I got all that far into it, but as the only be-vagina'd person of note I saw who wasn't related to Aiden, and they had some dialogue that I think was supposed to be flirty, I wouldn't be stunned if they didn't try to wring some half-hearted romantic subplot out of her.

Wait you sold it? Already? God I wish I had that money to waste. :p

Her whole introductory scene kinda ticked me off. Aiden starts threatening her, grabs her roughly around the neck, and then moments later she's making excuses for his actions. Yes my mind is kinda infected with that rape culture stuff, but I thought that whole scene was pretty rapey.
 

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Has anyone got it on PC? How does it run?

If the Steam reviews are to be believed then it's not working for ANYONE. EVER. ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
 

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Has anyone got it on PC? How does it run?

If the Steam reviews are to be believed then it's not working for ANYONE. EVER. ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
I have it on PC, and it runs fairly well on medium on my rig. There are graphical glitches, but the framerate is running fairly smoothly, and I don't even meet all the recommended requiremetns.

The biggest issue I've faced in getting Watch_Dogs running has been Uplay, not the game itself, and it seems like those issues are finally dying down now.
 

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To be honest I find the basic premise of the game kinda dull. Don't get me wrong, it could be a great game, but it's not the type of game I see some screenshots of and immediately go "that looks awesome". You play as a generic white guy in a generic city doing generic action stuff like guns and car chases. Why can't this minigame


Be the entire fucking game?
 

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Zaydin said:
Jamieson 90 said:
Has anyone got it on PC? How does it run?

If the Steam reviews are to be believed then it's not working for ANYONE. EVER. ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
I have it on PC, and it runs fairly well on medium on my rig. There are graphical glitches, but the framerate is running fairly smoothly, and I don't even meet all the recommended requiremetns.

The biggest issue I've faced in getting Watch_Dogs running has been Uplay, not the game itself, and it seems like those issues are finally dying down now.
If you don't mind me asking, are you running any AMD products? I only ask since most complaints seem to surround the fact that the game is poorly optimized for AMD, apparently Ubisoft and NiVidia shafted them, hence why I'm worried about getting the game since I'm running with a AMD Radeon HD 7700.
 

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Wait you sold it? Already? God I wish I had that money to waste. :p
Sold it to CEX for store credit - got almost the full amount back. Used it to buy South Park: The Stick of Truth instead, which is much more fun and as an added bonus my girlfriend can play it too.

SaneAmongInsane said:
Her whole introductory scene kinda ticked me off. Aiden starts threatening her, grabs her roughly around the neck, and then moments later she's making excuses for his actions. Yes my mind is kinda infected with that rape culture stuff, but I thought that whole scene was pretty rapey.
Yeah, I got that vibe too. His first instinct on meeting an ally is to grab her threateningly by the throat? Doesn't sound like a fun guy to be around.