Hey, I haven't even played the game yet. I just find it amusing because people had the same opinion about Morrowwind, and Oblivion.
Ways that Oblivion is superior to Skyrim
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Hooray, someone has an opinion here's mine, lets make comparisons XDCrono1973 said:
1) Athletics and acrobatics were pretty much useless skills to me that did nothing but fuck up my very strict levelling in oblivion so I'm glad to be rid of them.
2) I prefer this character creator about 100x more than oblivion. You don't look like someone turned your face into clay and then proceeded to beat it with a giant purple dildo-bat. (Also, your characters look like hardened warriors not prissy anime characters)
3) No complaints here, The UI is horrid. I expect this to be swiftly remedied once the creation kit comes out for Skyrim (If you're on console, my condolences)
4) I didn't really understand this point, I'd like some explanation if possible, I've had no performance issues so I think i might be disagreeing?
You could level up your minor skills in Oblivion too, they just didn't count towards a level up. You didn't know that? In Oblivion you could add up to +5 in three different attributes. In Skyrim you can add 10 points to either HP, MP or Stamina. Skyrim has adopted Bioware's ability system which was always inferior to just straight out leveling your skills.Irony said:Oh here's your problem:
>PS3
Yep, the PS3 has some issues with save files. I play on the 360 while my friend plays on the PS3. Guess who's still able to play their games for over 2 hours without it lagging?
As for some of the other stuff you mentioned...
The UI is objectively ugly. I don't mind the simplistic look to it. And being able to view items inside your inventory is pretty nice too. As for not being able to view your character in the menu... oh no! You have to exit it to view your character. The horror! The UI can be a bit of a mess at times when you have tons of stuff in your inventory, but that's whats favorites are for!
I much prefer the character models in Skyrim to Oblivion. Seriously, most of the user made characters in Oblivion (at least without mods) were rather meh at best. Otherwise they were rather ugly. Skyrim characters generally look better.
The lack of acrobatics and athletics in Skyrim is a bit sad, how would it work with the perks system? Run faster? Run even more faster? Run really really, really good looking faster?
Plus, there are alot of things I like in Skyrim over Oblivion. The dual wielding system (for both spells and weapons) is pretty nice. I like being able to choose between a one-handed weapon and some sort of spell or two spells or two of the same type of spells or whatever.
And no classes is great. I'm not limited to a couple key skills when it comes to leveling up. I can level up whatever I want and if mid-game I find I just don't like what I've been leveling, I can always switch to something else! Or just pick up another skill that I find is useful.
-You're only confused about skills the first time you play. Play it once, you know what skills you need.Lucyfer86 said:
-See: FF2. Take a wrong step and get savaged by high-level monsters. Nuff said.
-The UI is terrible. There is no item-sorting, and the wheel-thing is horrible.
-They weren't pointless. It stopped tanks being ninjas. And vice-versa.
-Now it's just white. Everything is white.
-I haven't really progressed in the main quest. Maybe because I didn't like the story, actually. But that's a but subjective.
-They have no impact on the game whatsoever.
Can you honestly tell me that the combat in Oblivion is better than Skyrim? Because it isn't. Not even close. And that is the main point of the game at the end of the day. No one plays this game to talk to every bloke Whiterun, even though you might. You play it because you know at some point you have to kill a bandit leader, or a forest troll, or fight some daedra. And the combat system with both the weapons and magic is greatly improved. The hand selection idea works perfectly. The fighting in Skyrim is just so much better.Crono1973 said:
Your other points are debatable, not solidified, in my opinion. I don't understand how the character creator is bad, you just say its bad. That is a pretty shitty argument. And I could give a damn about athletics or acrobatics. I don't really feel like jumping for 3 hours straight. I can do that in real life. I can't fight giants wielding electrical powers in real life. So, acrobatics and athletics seem like rather disposable skills. I understand your gripe about not being able to advance in them, but oh well. I can live without them just fine.
I understand you might prefer Oblivion to Skyrim, and that is fine. That is your choice. There are certain things I liked in Oblivion better myself. But at the end of the day, the gameplay is so superior in Skyrim, it really is just no contest, in my opinion.
So discussions aren't allowed on a discussion board? I mean, doesn't every discussion fall into two categories, with the crowd or against the crowd? Is the latter not allowed?MultiElford said:Since I can't hear your tone.Crono1973 said:
If you sound like you want to have a nice discussion:
I don't know, I like Skyrim more..
I didn't think about the details, but just the feeling as a whole that I got from playing both games.
I guess it is the environment that draws me into it, especially the new factions and guilds.
If you sound arrogant or like some of the other wannabe smart gamers that just want to sound cool but fail miserably:
If you like Oblivion, sell your copy of Skyrim and play Oblivion again.
I don't see the problem here?
Oh wait, you wanted to show how you are different from the mainstream that loves Skyrim right now, or just how many flaws you can find in a game that almost everybody loves right now. Good job!
I can give you a suggestion on how to sound even smarter and cooler: Rant about Modern Warfare! That will impress everyone
Either way, have fun with Oblivion, it really is a great game
The UI is also completely subjective, and dragons have a big impact on the game.Russell Utterson said:
Killing dragons lets you use the shouts. I'm not far enough in the main story yet, but I'm pretty sure the dragons you kill through only scripted encounters are DEFINITELY not enough to unlock all of the shouts you're able to get in the game.
there was 1 dragon in Oblivion, the one who fights Mehrunes Dagon, the golden oneKahunaburger said:
I never said the combat in Oblivion is better than Skyrim, Skyrim has better combat. So you say that combat is why people play these games. Well then, the combat in Oblivion couldn't have been that bad if that's why everyone played it. Actually, combat is only a part of a TES game and not the most interesting part either. Role playing and building the character you want.zenoaugustus said:
Skyrim has it's improvements over Oblivion but then I never said everything in Oblivion is superior to everything in Skyrim.
Yup, and I love the UI.Russell Utterson said:
And your point about the powers are completely irrelevant. Just because a similar mechanic was in Oblivion doesn't mean that dragons don't have an impact on the game. You're just arguing against my point with random information that doesn't prove your original point.
I don't hate Skyrim and to answer your question, I didn't get on a board and say those things but Morrowind was a better game for it's time but I can't go back to it now, too much reading I guess and the accuracy issue (at the beginning of the game you miss alot).p3t3r said:
Obviously combat is only one aspect of the game. But it is probably the most important. I enjoy role-playing as much as anyone, but the combat (or at least skill implication, and by that I mean the use of the skills the game has set) is probably the most important part to the game. And I personally think Skyrim does it better, for the aforementioned reasons. And you can still build the character you want.Crono1973 said:
On a whole, are you trying to argue Oblivion is the better game? Or just complain about the list you had set up at the start of your thread? Because that is fine, but I can't see how Oblivion is better.