halo3rulzer said:
Dys said:
High school history should be optional, as should geography and English, music should be entirely optional for the duration of school. There should be more sport (specifically team sport, it's important to learn how to function in a team) for younger students, as well as specific science maths classes for younger students (at the very least separate biology class from physics class for juniors, it's quite common to hate one and love the other, we rarely want to waste our time with both).
Things like food tech (hell, technology subjects in general are greatly under represented in Victorian schools) should probably be given more attention, I was lucky in that the high school I went to had good facilities, however we spent very little time using them, perhaps more opportunities to use them (without forcing it upon us) would be good.
Ultimately, it's important not to force children to do things, everyone has different goals and ambitions. I remember being particularly annoyed that there was a mandatory unit on the renaissance when I was in high school (year 8 if I recall), especially because I was completely uninterested in the arts and ultimately got nothing from it, my time would've been better spent doing specialised mathematics, and given the choice that's what I'd have done.
I disagree with you on the History part. If you do not teach kids what happened in the past then it is bound to happen in the future. If you don't teach the kids about the Holocaust then the chances of it happening again have just doubled. To forget the past is to repeat it. If you find yourself with a problem and you make the wrong choice, and then are confronted with the same problem later in life, what is to stop you from making that same choice if you forgot what happened the last time. Sure some parts are uninteresting but I know people who think Math
s is particularly uninteresting. Hell I know a lot of people who would just love to take anything to do with numbers off the curriculum. But the point of High School is to prepare you for the future, and the future is governed mainly by what happened in the past, therefore it is essential to know what happened in the past in order to make decisions in the future.
I wholeheartedly agree that a level of historic knowledge is 100% necessary, I've heard all the arguments for studying history and none of them really deal with why I dislike the school subject. In Victoria, soviet and Nazi history is covered in English, not 'history' (I know I claimed that subject was also unnecessary, and I maintain that the literary aspects of it largely are, one does not need to be able to analyse prose outside of specific, uncommon professions). The 'History' subject I was forced to study (and detest, this doesn't include primary school history which covered the colonies, gold rush, federation etc) covered the renaissance, ancient Egypt and very, very briefly world war 1 (not even really anything historically relevant, more just a general 'war is bad' subject).
Where I'm from, maths is mostly optional (after a certain point) and I wholeheartedly agree with that (though I make no effort to hide that I have a bias towards maths/science subjects, I would back ending mandatory maths subjects a year or two early).
I'm not saying we should strip history entirely from the curriculum, there should be a level of understanding modern society, and if one is to understand why society works the way it does knowledge of things like the cold war and world war 2 are the basic building blocks, I can't make it any clearer that this material
should be taught in schools. The mandatory history subject I studied, however, is completely unrelated and it is that I contest. If I had my way both English and history would be axed and something more effective and relevant would replace them (with both as they are remaining as optional electives), you're more than welcome to call that substitution history if you like, history would certainly be a significant portion of the material as would basic political ideologies and basic international studies. As I've said before (it may or may not be obvious), this change is only for secondary school students, the basic history subjects that I recall from primary school were both relevant and appropriate.