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L.B. Jeffries

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Human Bomb post=7.69226.653676 said:
Are PC games less fun?

No.

Do they cost less?

Nine Hells, no! You still have to pay for the software. (Ad supported subsidized gaming? No thanks.) And if a new game comes out, and you want it to look all pretty like the others? RAM and Video cards aren't cheap even on good sites, and it takes a bit of effort to upgrade if you do it yourself. Tack on monthly subscription fees and internet connections that have data limits before they start charging you through the nose.

As long as people want to just turn on a game and have it work, hold a game pad or wiimote or whatever, and hang out playing games on their TV, consoles will still have a market.
If you could play Call of Duty 4 on a flash browser, with the load screens being commercials, multi-player and single-player working fine, all for free... you wouldn't do it? The tech isn't quite there yet, but they've got 3-D flash engines that are on par with the original Half-Life now. Give it time.
 

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Codgo post=7.69226.654231 said:
fluffylandmine post=7.69226.653816 said:
I believe some people need to visit the 'misconceptions of PC gaming' thread
That thread should have been stuck at the top of this forum to help educate some people on here, you really see some plain stupid comments coming from some people.
Admitedly, though, If you're pumping up your PC for Crysis that's basically the equivilant of buying a PS3 for MGS4.
 

Danny Ocean

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Read my lovely, lovely thread. Misconceptions about PC gaming. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.67044#585908]

Anyway...

shatnershaman post=7.69226.653438 said:
A cell processor can make graphics? What?
Methinks so, I do believe that the consoles work on the principal of sharing resources. The RAM can be used by any part, the stream proccessors can be used by the cpu, and the cpu can put it's weight behind the GPU if needs be.

Don't quote me on that, though.
 

CriMs0nC0bra

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Everyone I talk to complains about PC gaming because you have to pay tons of money to upgrade every few months. Am I the only one that never had a problem?
I bought my first PC for gaming in 2003 and I was able to use it til earlier this year when I upgraded for the first time to a new PC.. The only upgrade I ever did on the old PC was added an extra stick of RAM, for like.. 50$?
And I played every game up til that point (eh, never tried crysis but then again, i never wanted to) without any real problem.

I guess they forget that they also have to buy a new console every few years if they want to keep up, so it's really the same deal.
Yes, you can keep your old consoles and keep playing games for that one just fine.. but you can also keep your old, dated PC and keep playing the games that run on it fine as well.

There is no difference aside from the PC being capable of upgrading, where consoles may seem to last longer.. but in the end, they need to be upgraded as well, for another full price.
 

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Just browsing these comments shows me that (as usual) everyone is overlooking the true killer feature of PC gaming, and the reason why, assuming enough corporations get their shit together, it can take over:

The hardware is basically free.

You already own a PC. Everyone does. It isn't like consoles where you have to spend $400 dollars on specialty hardware. You don't have to purchase gaming hardware, because you already own the hardware. Please read the rest before you flame me.

There is this weird notion that you need crazy top of the line hardware to play games. That for some God-given reason gamers need to upgrade graphics cards every 2 years. It is just assumed to be that way because that's the way it's always been. Well actually it's a pretty recent thing.

Before 3d, any somewhat modern PC could play any modern game. The original Doom, for example, ran off of anything. Point and click adventure games ran off of anything. Heck, going back all the way, text based games ran off of anything. This premium hardware BS is a fairly recent thing. I'm not sure if Myst or wing commander is to blame, but the culture of 'graphics first' grew to define the PC gaming world. And it's killing PC gaming 10 times faster than piracy ever could.

But according to this article (and what I've known all along), graphics aren't going to be the driving force behind the games industry going forward. Community based games, perhaps even browser games, will dominate, quickly eliminating the PC's two biggest impediments: piracy and the graphics culture.
 

Spleeni

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It's all the cursed porn on these devil boxes. There's no way to have the evil infest you on the PS4!
 

Rath709

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Practically everyone has a PC or laptop, but does everyone have one capable of running Crysis at full spec? Hell no. And is everyone willing to shell out for one when they can get a console that will run similarly high end games for a fraction of the price?
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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Rath709 post=7.69226.654450 said:
And is everyone willing to shell out for one when they can get a console that will run similarly high end games for a fraction of the price?
HBrutusH post=7.69226.654285 said:
Read my lovely, lovely thread. Misconceptions about PC gaming. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.67044#585908]
 

Jumplion

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ElArabDeMagnifico post=7.69226.654465 said:
Rath709 post=7.69226.654450 said:
And is everyone willing to shell out for one when they can get a console that will run similarly high end games for a fraction of the price?
HBrutusH post=7.69226.654285 said:
Read my lovely, lovely thread. Misconceptions about PC gaming. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.67044#585908]
I think he's meaning that since everyone already owns a PC, do they really want to spend more money (if they need to) just to play that one game when they could easily spend that money on something else?

Amd am I the only one who doesn't know what the hell everyone else is talking about, and that I'm the only one who seems to be talking about the actual point of this topic?

Or maybe I'm still delusional.
 

Knight Templar

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Using the logic I saw there it could be possable games will only exist on console. If they prevent games been stolen and can get the mouse and keyboard controles then whats the diffrence?

Saying consoles wil die out is a big claim, there's money to be made there.
 

Jumplion

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Okay, amd I the only one on the track here? The article isn't talking about PC gaming...is it? Can someone tell me what we're going on about here? Because I'm pretty sure this guy's not talking about PC gaming, or again I could just be completely lost here and mental.
 

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Jumplion post=7.69226.655469 said:
Okay, amd I the only one on the track here? The article isn't talking about PC gaming...is it? Can someone tell me what we're going on about here? Because I'm pretty sure this guy's not talking about PC gaming, or again I could just be completely lost here and mental.
They guy is declaring the Inevitable Doom of console gaming. He's also an officer in a company that makes PC games, and his reason for declaring Inevitable Doom on consoles is that online game delivery will render them obsolete.

The reason people are taking shots at PC gaming as a result of this article is the humongous conflict of interest in the guy's declaration, and the fantastically self-promoting agenda behind it, because he's a PC game developer. It's nothing more than yet another volley in the Platform Wars.

Me? I'm going to ignore it like the rest of the meaningless noise generated by self-interested platform bigots.

-- Steve
 

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Anton P. Nym post=7.69226.655665 said:
Jumplion post=7.69226.655469 said:
Okay, amd I the only one on the track here? The article isn't talking about PC gaming...is it? Can someone tell me what we're going on about here? Because I'm pretty sure this guy's not talking about PC gaming, or again I could just be completely lost here and mental.
They guy is declaring the Inevitable Doom of console gaming. He's also an officer in a company that makes PC games, and his reason for declaring Inevitable Doom on consoles is that online game delivery will render them obsolete.

The reason people are taking shots at PC gaming as a result of this article is the humongous conflict of interest in the guy's declaration, and the fantastically self-promoting agenda behind it, because he's a PC game developer. It's nothing more than yet another volley in the Platform Wars.

Me? I'm going to ignore it like the rest of the meaningless noise generated by self-interested platform bigots.

-- Steve
Gotcha, thank you for actually answering my question.
 

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Lt. Sera post=7.69226.653848 said:
Am I the only one who still likes offline single player games? MMO this, multiplayer that..
You are far from being the only one.
 

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Console gaming has been around since the 80s. A PC must be updated, and it costs money to do that. The Alienware ALX at original price cannot play the 81 fps Crysis without the PC itself of being choppy. Consoles will never die out. Besides, the PS3 was the first console to get the cell processor, and not a home computer. Blu-ray will probably be the set standard for next generation consoles, or some other type of playable disk media. The fact is that no matter what you say, PC games can be pricey, and they can be choppy without the minimum requirements on the PC. Laptops are another thing. They are portable, but the problem is that in order to upgrade it, you have to send it to the company that you bought it from (unless you know how to open the laptop) to upgrade it.

Many people like console games than they do PC games because some of the console games never leave that market such as when the symbol on the xbox 360 games front [Only on the Xbox], and sometimes that later becomes a lie because the same game comes out for another console about 1 year later or sometimes shorter.

Consoles will obviously sell more games, but MMO's are starting to take over the PC world, and I don't know what is taking over the console war, except that the fact is that you can now download games from the PSN or XLA. For some people, such as me, I don't have the money to buy an expensive gaming PC that must be upgraded every 3 years or so.