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Salem_Wolf said:
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Well I'll have to write up a sort of "webcomic pilot" But the idea is still petty rough. This thread was sort of made to recruit some writers or something. So if you know any good writers, let em know about this if ya can. :)
*looks down at myself* I could give it a shot. Nothing professional, mind you, but if you're curious on ideas I've done while RPing, I could link you to some threads of mine on another site, get an idea of how I write and whatnot. Totally cool either way.

Edit: Note to self: Do not use emoticons on this forum, it makes me look like an idiot.
Note to self received.
Don't worry about professionalism just yet. These are just some rough ideas I came up with since I've been wanting to do something with the Vengeful Koala for a while now. Anywho, If you need some info about the characters and how they relate to each-other, I can write up some character sheets.

Just know that if this project is by any means a hassle for you, you don't have to do it. And if the idea doesn't sit well after a few strips, then I have plenty more ideas to come.

The reason I picked a kind of "cliche" idea is just to play it safe at the beginning. The internet seems very hostile to new and exciting things, so I want to draw in a wider audience before actually getting into the actually good stuff.

That and Vengeful Koala has been my avatar for a while now and I wanted to include him as a character in something.

EDIT: Here is another cast shot, this time with Jaguarman fully created. I'm still thinking of putting some goggles or something on him though.

-snips out image, makes post too long-
We can definitely see what comes up, character sheets would be spectacular, and helpful in creating the ideas, especially if you have their personalities fleshed out to the point not even an idiot could screw up their dialogue. Anyway, yeah, definitely get some character sheets and I can see closer what I have to work with personality-wise. :D

I'll check back tomorrow since you mentioned you'd work on the character sheets in a later post after mine was quoted lol.
Here is the first character sheet. And sorry for double post but it's an update so it seems reasonable.

Vengeful Koala:

Age: Unknown

Mannerisms: Arrogant, Selfish, and a bit Insecure. He will not tolerate any insults aimed at him. Anyone who dares question his abilities as an evil super villain will be shot down by the high powered laser beam of doom. But due to budgetary problems, it's no longer a laser but a small squirtgun filled with boiling hot water.

Background:

No one is exactly sure what his childhood was like, because no one really cares. He moved into Zoar City when he was 17, as his parents booted him out of the house after he had "accidentally" held the neighbor children hostage to get a date out of the woman who lived next door.

Zoar City at the time was a surprisingly quiet city. There weren't many robberies, hostage situations, or even the simple serial killer. The child had loved horror movies in his younger years, and had always admired the deep thought of process and planning that went into all those murders in movies such as the CAPE FEARE or HANNIBAL series. So he brought it upon himself to bring back crime to a dead city.

Things started out slow for the league. Seeing as how he was the only member and that the secret lab was actually just a cardboard box. So he called up his childhood chum, Randy, to join him and his league of evil. Soon he assumed an identity for both himself and his chum. He had picked the name of Vengeful Koala because he believed it would fool the ?enemy? into believing he was harmless. But this Koala has CLAWS..

So he and Jaguarman eventually convinced the manager of a local pizza restaurant to use his basement as a hideout, in return they would both work for him and also assign him as their secret ?spy?. Which pleased him very much. Jump to modern day, and the first heist plan begins...
 

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Hey guys, i'm a friend of alalge and have been given the assignment to create the characterization for Jaguarman. Jaguarman was originally created around me so I do feel it's fitting. I may also be helping with other characterizations.
 

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That could be one of my biggest problems. Nearly everything I create becomes self aware at some point. Perhaps you could lend me a hand on this. Seeing as how you have done many before.
Well, let me just clear this up. By me stating I've been on two webcomics, the first, Everyday Critics, went to 10 strips before I left. After 10 my friend took over. But I did write everything up to that point. My second webcomic, Balloons & Panels, is literally at its 3rd strip, which just went up today.

Everyday Critics: http://everydaycritics.blogspot.com/
Balloons & Panels: http://balloonsandpanels.blogspot.com/

I'm not a connoisseur so to speak, and I'm not exactly the best reference in making a webcomic but I will try to help where I can.

I write my comics in advance. When I was starting Balloons & Panels I sat down and wrote 10 strips. (Although some friends write on the spot and that works out for them, it's preference) But I like writing in advance so when it's time to start working on a comic I can notice if something was funny at the time and just isn't now and I'm able to fix it. By doing this you'd also be able to catch yourself being self-aware.

I don't think there's steps to take to avoid being self-aware, you just need to catch it when you are and make sure it works (an example, the self-aware strips set up in Balloons & Panels are centered around Deadpool, a comic book character known for being self-aware).

Your theme seems to set you up to an ongoing series, which (in my opinion is easier to avoid self-aware) because you just need to stay within the world. If you write a strip and it fits in the world, it shouldn't be self-aware and the most probable way it could be is if you hammer that point to the audience.

Though, you did say you don't think you have enough material. My thoughts are that you do, just not yet. The way your theme is you just need to keep writing interactions between your characters. Go from one strip to the next until you run out of ideas, then create a new situation. Bill Waterson would do this with Calvin & Hobbes where he would go as long as he could with a story until it ran out, then he would write singles until another came to him.

If I can lend anymore help or if this was even helpful, let me know. Also, thanks for setting me up for some linkage, which I was trying to stay away from in my first few posts. I wish you all the best and just don't expect an overnight sensation. My friend working on Everyday Critics is like that and views meant more than the comic to him. Views aren't bad but you need to make sure you're doing it because you enjoy it and not for the views or it will show and your comic could very well suffer.

EDIT: Even my most recent strip (Week 3) involves dialogue of me creating the webcomic. Though, my theme is centered around anything comics I feel it's appropriate if every now-and-then I'm in it to comment or rant about the theme I'm writing about. As long as the majority of my strips don't include me, I always regard that as making a statement within my strip and not being self-aware.
I liked week 3's strip. It made me laugh.
 

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Here are some of the newer characters.



(From left to right) Peli-Beacon, George the Accountant, Mayor(before superhero).

I'm still working on what Pizarro should look like as well as a few civilians and whatnot. For those of you who didn't know, none of the super villains or superheros have any actual powers, they are just regular guys in costume. Trying to either create or destroy evil in the world. Both are usually unsuccessful.
 

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Jaguarman Characterization

Written by Ryan Farr

Age: Mid 30?s

Character's Name: In costume: Jaguarman. Out of costume: Tom Mcgoogly.

Time Period: Current.

Physical Description: A bit short. Out of costume he only wears a business suit, yes, even swimming. He has medium long blonde hair. In costume he wears a purple jaguar suit, yellow goggles, and puts a small bag full of air on his nose so that his nose appears to be larger. He wears glasses out of costume; however in costume he doesn?t wear them. He thinks they don?t fit his costume (Though the glasses are purple). He has a bit of a high pitched voice that many would find to be annoying.

Mannerisms: Clumsy, because he doesn?t wear his needed prescription glasses. He?s quite cautious and realistic. He believes he is sneakier than he truly is. On occasion you may find him meowing at the moon, commonly mistaking him self for perhaps a cat?. Or a wolf? Or maybe a mixture of the two. He often mistakes his life for someone else?s most commonly from movies.

Personality Description: Once again, cautious. He?s not very out going and doesn?t like most ?Evil? ideas suggested by The Vengeful Koala.

Background (fun part): He originally grew up in the small town of Banana Ville. As you may have guessed they?re main export is People Eating Badgers. Jaguarman had an interesting family. His father was a jar of peanut butter and his mother was a pair of left shoes, and as we all know, when you mix a jar of peanut butter and a pair of left shoes it makes a human. Jaguarman got a job as a teenager at the nearby science lab. His job was to get bitten by rabies infected beavers, and inform the scientists of the side effects. The town?s folk grew envious of his new job and wanted it for themselves. They kicked him out of the town of Banana Ville with a large suit case which he thought was filled with his clothes and other various goods, however when he got to the nearest hotel he opened it up and quite quickly realized that it was NOT filled with his goods. It was instead filled with 30 or so People Eating Badgers. After the badgers had quenched they?re thirst for flesh they inevitably exploded into a large pile of blood and gore. Jaguarman, now half eaten, crawled to the large place called Zoar City. As he crawled to the middle of the city he looked up and around with a new hope and glee to his eyes. This was immediately interrupted by a man accidentally bumping into him, the man did not realize that he had bumped into him and did not say sorry. Over time Jaguarman became very angry and wanted vengeance for this mishap, he wanted to take it out on today?s society. He found a new friend with interests similar to his. His friend gave them both nicknames. His new friend?s nickname became The Vengeful Koala, and Tom?s nickname was Dr. Magoogly, Which was changed to Jaguarman soon after.


EDIT: Discard this.
 

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WARNING: This isn't supposed to be funny, this is the strait man.


New Jaguarman Characterization

Written by Ryan Farr

Age: Mid 30?s

Character?s Name: In costume: Jaguarman. Out of costume: Harold Farmings.

Time Period: Current.

Physical Description: Slightly shorter, wears a purple jaguar costume. Without the costume he has medium long blonde hair. He wears suits however if the situation requires it, then he changes into other clothing. He?s a bit skinny and wears yellow goggles in costume.

Mannerisms: Often cuts down ideas to appropriate size for cost ratio. Tries to clean the evil layer or take out the trash but is stopped by his fellow villains calling him demeaning names. After his colleagues have broken down doors or walls he often goes in saying sorry or having his head down. Though everything he does makes sense he always ends up being wrong.

Personality Description: ?Strait man?. He?s very logical and shy. He feels the need to have everything make sense.

Background (no longer fun part): Harold was born in Zoar City and grew up there. His father was a dentist and his mother was a stay at home mom. He really doesn?t have much of an interesting background.

What makes this character important?: He?s someone that we can all relate to. He?s the voice of reason and doesn?t offer flat out comedic value, he can enhance other humor if done correctly.
 

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godsmagnum said:
WARNING: This isn't supposed to be funny, this is the strait man.


New Jaguarman Characterization

Written by Ryan Farr

Age: Mid 30?s

Character?s Name: In costume: Jaguarman. Out of costume: Harold Farmings.

Time Period: Current.

Physical Description: Slightly shorter, wears a purple jaguar costume. Without the costume he has medium long blonde hair. He wears suits however if the situation requires it, then he changes into other clothing. He?s a bit skinny and wears yellow goggles in costume.

Mannerisms: Often cuts down ideas to appropriate size for cost ratio. Tries to clean the evil layer or take out the trash but is stopped by his fellow villains calling him demeaning names. After his colleagues have broken down doors or walls he often goes in saying sorry or having his head down. Though everything he does makes sense he always ends up being wrong.

Personality Description: ?Strait man?. He?s very logical and shy. He feels the need to have everything make sense.

Background (no longer fun part): Harold was born in Zoar City and grew up there. His father was a dentist and his mother was a stay at home mom. He really doesn?t have much of an interesting background.

What makes this character important?: He?s someone that we can all relate to. He?s the voice of reason and doesn?t offer flat out comedic value, he can enhance other humor if done correctly.
I didn't mean to make this non fun for you. The straight man is one of the most important parts of a webcomic, or any comedy for that matter. He is the voice of reason who shows us that all the craziness that happens is not normal. He helps us ground the comic slightly more into reality. That doesn't mean he can't have had his own interesting childhood or background. Perhaps he grew up wanting to be a hero but everything he's ever done has been in the benefit of evil because of his friend. Maybe he's an aspiring writer himself, and tries to create interesting scenarios for the rest of the league when they are bored. He ma be the straight man, but he's no dead man.

In other news, however, I have scratched up a short strip to test out my character puppets to see how ell they do in panels and whatnot. This one is not really meant to be funny, since the joke itself is cliche and has not much to do with the storyline, just a single for now, but let me know what you guys think of it so far.

 

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alalge said:
godsmagnum said:
WARNING: This isn't supposed to be funny, this is the strait man.


New Jaguarman Characterization

Written by Ryan Farr

Age: Mid 30?s

Character?s Name: In costume: Jaguarman. Out of costume: Harold Farmings.

Time Period: Current.

Physical Description: Slightly shorter, wears a purple jaguar costume. Without the costume he has medium long blonde hair. He wears suits however if the situation requires it, then he changes into other clothing. He?s a bit skinny and wears yellow goggles in costume.

Mannerisms: Often cuts down ideas to appropriate size for cost ratio. Tries to clean the evil layer or take out the trash but is stopped by his fellow villains calling him demeaning names. After his colleagues have broken down doors or walls he often goes in saying sorry or having his head down. Though everything he does makes sense he always ends up being wrong.

Personality Description: ?Strait man?. He?s very logical and shy. He feels the need to have everything make sense.

Background (no longer fun part): Harold was born in Zoar City and grew up there. His father was a dentist and his mother was a stay at home mom. He really doesn?t have much of an interesting background.

What makes this character important?: He?s someone that we can all relate to. He?s the voice of reason and doesn?t offer flat out comedic value, he can enhance other humor if done correctly.
I didn't mean to make this non fun for you. The straight man is one of the most important parts of a webcomic, or any comedy for that matter. He is the voice of reason who shows us that all the craziness that happens is not normal. He helps us ground the comic slightly more into reality. That doesn't mean he can't have had his own interesting childhood or background. Perhaps he grew up wanting to be a hero but everything he's ever done has been in the benefit of evil because of his friend. Maybe he's an aspiring writer himself, and tries to create interesting scenarios for the rest of the league when they are bored. He ma be the straight man, but he's no dead man.

In other news, however, I have scratched up a short strip to test out my character puppets to see how ell they do in panels and whatnot. This one is not really meant to be funny, since the joke itself is cliche and has not much to do with the storyline, just a single for now, but let me know what you guys think of it so far.

Oh I never doubted that he wasn't important or that it won't make the comic better. Sorry i've been complaney today for some reason. I had a lot of fun doing the first one and i'll have more fun doing the insane lady so I should be thankful for that.

I love the comic strip. Looks really good, however I couldn't help but notice that you said thought an abnormal sum of times. If you meant to do that then good job it worked, but if you didn't you might want to fix that up lol.
 

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godsmagnum said:
alalge said:
godsmagnum said:
WARNING: This isn't supposed to be funny, this is the strait man.


New Jaguarman Characterization

Written by Ryan Farr

Age: Mid 30?s

Character?s Name: In costume: Jaguarman. Out of costume: Harold Farmings.

Time Period: Current.

Physical Description: Slightly shorter, wears a purple jaguar costume. Without the costume he has medium long blonde hair. He wears suits however if the situation requires it, then he changes into other clothing. He?s a bit skinny and wears yellow goggles in costume.

Mannerisms: Often cuts down ideas to appropriate size for cost ratio. Tries to clean the evil layer or take out the trash but is stopped by his fellow villains calling him demeaning names. After his colleagues have broken down doors or walls he often goes in saying sorry or having his head down. Though everything he does makes sense he always ends up being wrong.

Personality Description: ?Strait man?. He?s very logical and shy. He feels the need to have everything make sense.

Background (no longer fun part): Harold was born in Zoar City and grew up there. His father was a dentist and his mother was a stay at home mom. He really doesn?t have much of an interesting background.

What makes this character important?: He?s someone that we can all relate to. He?s the voice of reason and doesn?t offer flat out comedic value, he can enhance other humor if done correctly.
I didn't mean to make this non fun for you. The straight man is one of the most important parts of a webcomic, or any comedy for that matter. He is the voice of reason who shows us that all the craziness that happens is not normal. He helps us ground the comic slightly more into reality. That doesn't mean he can't have had his own interesting childhood or background. Perhaps he grew up wanting to be a hero but everything he's ever done has been in the benefit of evil because of his friend. Maybe he's an aspiring writer himself, and tries to create interesting scenarios for the rest of the league when they are bored. He ma be the straight man, but he's no dead man.

In other news, however, I have scratched up a short strip to test out my character puppets to see how ell they do in panels and whatnot. This one is not really meant to be funny, since the joke itself is cliche and has not much to do with the storyline, just a single for now, but let me know what you guys think of it so far.

Oh I never doubted that he wasn't important or that it won't make the comic better. Sorry i've been complaney today for some reason. I had a lot of fun doing the first one and i'll have more fun doing the insane lady so I should be thankful for that.

I love the comic strip. Looks really good, however I couldn't help but notice that you said thought an abnormal sum of times. If you meant to do that then good job it worked, but if you didn't you might want to fix that up lol.
Yes that was a part of Vengeful Koala's character that I wanted to fit in somewhere while I was writing his dialog. I wanted him to be redundant. Like a lot of villains he gets repetitive and obnoxious while he's talking.

Glad to see you liked the prototype. I'm making sure that the puppets can display a wide variety of emotions without looking too stiff. I'm working on the Henrietta puppet right now so you'll be able to use the pic as a sot of inspiration somewhat for her character sheet.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Pretty sure I saw something like this on T.V.
I'm guessing that you're referring to League Of Super Evil. That is similar in some ways to my idea, but my idea for this comic has much more depth than that somewhat shallow show. You see, my idea is not just about the villains, but about the people of the cit, the mayor of the city, and just the city as a whole. It will involve some deep storylines, as well as the usual "single" gag that most webcomics do.
 

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Get some refrence material- parodies of the Superhero genre, like The Tick, or Watchmen. Less Watchmen though.
 

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This is the new character I have just finished. her name is Henrietta, and she is an escapee from the Zoar City insane asylum. She used to be a psychiatrist but went insane after a particularly tough patient drove her to madness. She is a psychotic and is very dangerous to both heroes and villains. That's all I can say now since Jaguarman is writing up the rest of her character sheet.
 

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All I can say is don't make this because you want to make a webcomic. Make this because you want to make the story itself, and think that you will have genuine fun in doing so. Then, post it on the web. If by some miracle or miracles it becomes popular, wonderful. If the extremely likely happens, and no one reads it, then you still had fun.
 

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Xanadu84 said:
All I can say is don't make this because you want to make a webcomic. Make this because you want to make the story itself, and think that you will have genuine fun in doing so. Then, post it on the web. If by some miracle or miracles it becomes popular, wonderful. If the extremely likely happens, and no one reads it, then you still had fun.
Yeah I'm not really expecting this thing to become very popular, but it's a small part of a large story I've been wanting to tell for a while now. Whatever happens to the webcomic is irrelevant as long as I have fun doing it. Of course it wouldn't hurt to let the story out to a wider audience. By which I mean the internet. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how this turns out in the end. But either way, the story will be told.
 

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I like the way this is turning out. The way it revolves around the whole city and not just the team of supervillains makes it a more interesting comic and opens more doors.
 

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Sorry for taking so long to check back. I checked all the character sheets and read the posts, the characters do look very interesting, from the ones without character sheets, they seem...well I like the potential nuttiness, let's go with that, lol. I think I could be on board with something like this, with my unfortunate unemployment, I'm pretty open at the moment.

So far this idea looks, with a bit of work, like it could take off! And as a poster earlier mentioned about the League of Super Evil, I saw that show too an episode or two, wasn't spectacular but had the kind of humor I can somehow see on this webcomic, but yeah, it was somewhat shallow, and focused on the main cast, and was kind of a kiddie humor, I sort of see this as a more intelligent humor.
 

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Salem_Wolf said:
Sorry for taking so long to check back. I checked all the character sheets and read the posts, the characters do look very interesting, from the ones without character sheets, they seem...well I like the potential nuttiness, let's go with that, lol. I think I could be on board with something like this, with my unfortunate unemployment, I'm pretty open at the moment.

So far this idea looks, with a bit of work, like it could take off! And as a poster earlier mentioned about the League of Super Evil, I saw that show too an episode or two, wasn't spectacular but had the kind of humor I can somehow see on this webcomic, but yeah, it was somewhat shallow, and focused on the main cast, and was kind of a kiddie humor, I sort of see this as a more intelligent humor.
Yeah I'll work on the remaining character sheets as well. Lately I've been just wanting to get most of the main characters drawn and ready to pose. Right now I'm working on a sort of "pilot" to set up the whole premise in one strip. Something that sets up some plot points and gives us room to elaborate later on. I think this will be fun. Welcome aboard mate.
 

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Hm. Interesting Idea.

But please put another League that I like to call...

League of Outspoken and Outstanding People Yodelers.

Otherwise known as "LOOPY."

Edit: Mmm...that test strip was delicious. Seriously. It was good. It shows potential.