Weed

[Quaidis]

I dont care what anybody says, weed should be a choice. Thats it. Until it starts to affect others, no1 else should have a say in it. Of course, such activities, such as driving, while high should be lookeed down upon and any1 who does so should pay proper consequences, but other than that its a completely personal matter.

By the gods, you people know nothing. Messing with weed churns out badly typed posts with random numbers strewn in to replace actual three-lettered words. Think of all the apostrophes, commas, and other important punctuation material we will miss! The hazards that will arrive as all weed smokers don't go to their respective jobs and instead come here to post negligent threads and make weak polls! The new members who refuse to read the rules and use search buttons! (I'm not picking on you specifically, Hank.)

Honestly, weed is a waste of time. The more people that fool around with the garbage, the less jobs people will be employed into; not that there aren't plenty of people who wouldn't mind getting employed in place of the morons who never show up at work. So instead of citizens buying pounds of the stuff at local gas stations and pharmaceuticals to better fund a country, we would have a larger and larger percentage of dirt poor twenty-something year olds who never went to get a proper education and would not bother getting a job to support themselves, more or less leave the couch. Weed can be terribly addictive and it's a downward hole in the ground if you aren't at all careful.

 

[Budgy]

There are other reasons in smoking weed than the selfish. In one way, most of you on here (particularly the poster) demonstrate fully:

you have not tried it.

My main reason for trying drugs - besides curiousity - was to better understand other people who choose to do such things. Thinking towards the future, it would greatly benefit your relationship with your children if you had a past of light drug-usage so that if they ever get involved, you would have some incite to their actions rather than casting it off as evil, as so many mindless elders do today.

I used to be very anti-drug, anti-drinking a few years ago. Of course as you grow up you encounter a variety of situations that will pressure you one way or another (peers, curiousity) into trying it.

Like any other substance, weed can become something ugly in your life if mistreated. While I feel it does not bring about serious mental or physical consequences as does smoking ciggarettes (which I do), it can become something you do routinely. In this way, it is about as "harmless" as devoting all your time to WoW.

In the end, people who lose themselves to drugs or playing MMORPGs aren't bad people; just people who choose to live their lives a certain way. In my opinion, there are better things to do with your time here; life is short.

P.S.: I'm typing this at work right now and I enjoy smoking once or twice a week. Working hard and earning what you get is possible if you have your fun in moderation. If you think one puff of weed will destroy your built-up work ethic, you need to grow up and get a mind of your own.

 

[Lt. Sera]

Never had a problem with weed when it was illegal and i haven't had a problem with it after it was legalized. I don't get the fuzz, it's in the same league as beer.

As far as addictions go: if you're the kind of guy who gets addicted to weed and throw your life away, if you wouldn't have had the weed, you'd be addicted to some other drug.
People turn to drugs/alcohol as a relaxation, an energizer or for escapism. Remove the drug they use to that purpose and they'll just move on to another.

 

[KittywifaMohawk]

Marijuana would be a nightmare to tax. It grows to easily (hence the name "weed") and would thus prompt a competition of quality in which companies would try to make more powerful versions of the substance. Eventually we'd get a harmful substance that would be highly addictive and more detrimental to our health than natural marijuana (which would again be outlawed, unless you have a kind of marijuana license which would be as expensive as hell).

That's the way the world works these days. As long as corporations lobby and have considerable sway in government policy, you will NEVER see a proper legalization of marijuana. Right now, the best we can hope for is decriminalization: make it legal to have enough weed for personal use, trafficking it results in a fine (not much larger than a parking ticket), and growing it is a slightly larger fine ($350-$500).

This makes it a defacto tax (meaning we don't drag the IRS into it), the money goes straight to the state, and there could even be a loophole that allows people to pay the fine in advance if they can afford it. It cuts out the ATF by making the issue a state or city matter rather than a federal one as well.

When it comes to ANY legislation, cut out as many middle-men as possible.

Wow, that is completely right. Now that you say of that, I can totally seeing it happen if weed is legalized. No one has ever mentioned it so I didn't think of it. But after you said that, I do think weed shouldn't be legalized after reading that. Unless somehow we control the big companies from not selling it. Or just buying it from other people, not the big companies.

I dont care what anybody says, weed should be a choice. Thats it. Until it starts to affect others, no1 else should have a say in it. Of course, such activities, such as driving, while high should be lookeed down upon and any1 who does so should pay proper consequences, but other than that its a completely personal matter.

By the gods, you people know nothing. Messing with weed churns out badly typed posts with random numbers strewn in to replace actual three-lettered words. Think of all the apostrophes, commas, and other important punctuation material we will miss! The hazards that will arrive as all weed smokers don't go to their respective jobs and instead come here to post negligent threads and make weak polls! The new members who refuse to read the rules and use search buttons! (I'm not picking on you specifically, Hank.)

Honestly, weed is a waste of time. The more people that fool around with the garbage, the less jobs people will be employed into; not that there aren't plenty of people who wouldn't mind getting employed in place of the morons who never show up at work. So instead of citizens buying pounds of the stuff at local gas stations and pharmaceuticals to better fund a country, we would have a larger and larger percentage of dirt poor twenty-something year olds who never went to get a proper education and would not bother getting a job to support themselves, more or less leave the couch. Weed can be terribly addictive and it's a downward hole in the ground if you aren't at all careful.

Ok, you just gave another good reason it shouldn't be legalized....That would happen to A LOT of people. Mostly all the teenagers who smoke weed now. They won't finish school and just go on playing WoW or any other MMORPG they play. They'll never get a job and end up bumming off there mom. Not a good thing.

 

[KittywifaMohawk]

This was a really interesting thread, I don't want it to die.

 

[Ares Tyr]

I have nothing against a moderate, relaxed usage of marijuana. Its alot more natural than drinking alcohol, and people have been doing it for a very, very, very loooong time. I don't see the big issue. The only reason their is a negative stigma to it is because in America, it is illegal. This is due to the government, at first, trying to stick it to early Mexican immigrants in the early 1920s, and then later on once they realized that they couldn't profit off of it since it can be grown so easily in the wild and domestically.

So people who are assosciated with illegal activities are associated with marijuana. However, the average pot smoker is a very normal person. Some of my best friends smoke marijuana. Some regularly, some occasionally. I've shot-gunned it before, but I can no longer do that due to military drug testing. Its possibly the most harmless mind altering drug there is when used in moderation. I knew some people who did it far too much, but these people also did pills and other drugs along with it, so that may be a factor. Or possibly their home lives.

But it holds no more dangers to it than alcohol or cigarettes, and I don't think there should be any stigma about it. Atleast any more stigma than those two things.

Its not like cocaine or heroine where you can O.D. and die from it instantly, it doesn't destroy your mind (anymore than a beer) so really, I have no problem with it being used. I probably would use it if it were legal. Alas, though, I cannot or I am out of college money and a job.

 

[HSIAMetalKing]

But it holds no more dangers to it than alcohol or cigarettes, and I don't think there should be any stigma about it. Atleast any more stigma than those two things.

I'd argue that it holds far fewer dangers than either of those.

 

[Ares Tyr]

But it holds no more dangers to it than alcohol or cigarettes, and I don't think there should be any stigma about it. Atleast any more stigma than those two things.

I'd argue that it holds far fewer dangers than either of those.

Indeed. Atleast potheads are to lazy to get into a bar fight or try to drive.

 

[KittywifaMohawk]

But it holds no more dangers to it than alcohol or cigarettes, and I don't think there should be any stigma about it. Atleast any more stigma than those two things.

I'd argue that it holds far fewer dangers than either of those.

Indeed. Atleast potheads are to lazy to get into a bar fight or try to drive.

All pot heads want to do is really just play video games and eat. So I see no threat to be honest.

 

[Ares Tyr]

But it holds no more dangers to it than alcohol or cigarettes, and I don't think there should be any stigma about it. Atleast any more stigma than those two things.

I'd argue that it holds far fewer dangers than either of those.

Indeed. Atleast potheads are to lazy to get into a bar fight or try to drive.

All pot heads want to do is really just play video games and eat. So I see no threat to be honest.

Seriously. That's all that some of my friends do when they are high. They smoke a bowl and they get on Call of Duty 4. Every time.

My best friend is a casual pot smoker and he's on his University's body building team, works out constantly, and takes like, dietary supplements (ironically while pursuing a criminal justice degree to become a U.S. Marshal). So he pretty much disperses the stereotype of pot smokers being lazy, fat slobs who only smoke pot and never amount to anything. He did tell me a funny story about how he got high and watched "A Clockwork Orange" and was tripping out really hard.

 

[HSIAMetalKing]

But it holds no more dangers to it than alcohol or cigarettes, and I don't think there should be any stigma about it. Atleast any more stigma than those two things.

I'd argue that it holds far fewer dangers than either of those.

Indeed. Atleast potheads are to lazy to get into a bar fight or try to drive.

True enough. Of course, I'm still able to drive quite well while high. And the only fight I've ever gotten into while high was a tickle fight.

 

[That_D00D]

where I live, it is legal to smoke weed and carry less than 200 grams of it...and thats fucken alot, so basically no small time weed smoker such as myself get annoyed by the police. And yes, you feel like you laugh to everything that is said and to be honest...it's frikin cool! Thumbs up for this harmless and legal drug.

 

[That_D00D]

Referring to what Quadis said :

Every single person I know(almost)who smokes weed are very successful in life and are greatly above the average student. Weed has nothing to do with people flunking or wasting their time on MMO's, that's all about personal values and choices.

PS: No, I don't flunk classes nor waste my time on MMO's.

 

[Xhumed]

Referring to what Quadis said :

Every single person I know(almost)who smokes weed are very successful in life and are greatly above the average student. Weed has nothing to do with people flunking or wasting their time on MMO's, that's all about personal values and choices.

PS: No, I don't flunk classes nor waste my time on MMO's.

Sorry, thats not my experience. I've known plenty of people flunk out because all they wanted to do was smoke weed.

 

[Eiseman]

Sorry, thats not my experience. I've known plenty of people flunk out because all they wanted to do was smoke weed.

I seriously doubt that weed was the motivator in that situation. A flunkie's a flunkie, regardless of what he does in his spare time.

 

[Xhumed]

Sorry, thats not my experience. I've known plenty of people flunk out because all they wanted to do was smoke weed.

I seriously doubt that weed was the motivator in that situation. A flunkie's a flunkie, regardless of what he does in his spare time.

Really? It seems to go hand in hand too often to be just down to that, especially since many of them started out as grade A students, very intelligent etc.

 

[X3heartless]

To those who say it has no ill side effects...

NOOO DUDE, THE SPACE COKE DID THAT (If you get the reference, then you earn my deepest respect)

Anyway, I have never been high before, what is it like?

Everything seems funnier and your a bit light headed.

 

[splattski]

Speaking under the anonymity of the internet I have grown up around weed. I have lived in a house where there is constantly the smell of the sweet sticky substance in the air. I am a perfectly normal individual. I am not dumb, I am not a stoner, but it has been around me my whole life I can see how it can cause people to do strange things, but it is relatively harmless even compared to other legal substances. (I'm looking at you alcohol). Just putting that out there.

 

[CharlesVI]

You know I would make an argument. I've destroyed my life. I dropped out of college could not focus wasted my life. Then I started smoking and ruined all that. Currently a 4.0 at OSU no longer feeling the effects of ADD or my rheumatoid arthritis. Also harvard medical has released a study on its potential benifits on reducing, preventing, and possibly curing cancer.

this guy makes a better argument. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7566935841060108797&ei=h7urSKK5NZKuiwKLz7n-CA&q=irv+rosenfeld+testify&vt=lf

But to be honest I almost did not post because facts do not fight ignorance, oh well at least I can enjoy my life despite the looming threat of jail time. (more than most child molesters and drunk drivers that kill fyi)

 

[al_banzon]

pot... it makes you feel lightheaded and.... HIGH. simple as that. HIGH.