Welcome to Halo of Duty 4 (WARNING: Leaks!)

[oZode]

The two primary weapons load out is so OP. That means you can have both the DMR and BR at once! Why use any other loadout? Couple this with the regenerating field and you got yourself an unstoppable spartan who kills at any range, has the ability to regenerate health with a special piece of equipment and this isn't even having the support upgrade.

Even without using CoD stuff, there will be OP loadouts.

Your a little behind OP. All this stuff was at least covered in the GI issue.

The pics weren't in the GI issue. They were leaked on neoGAF in a barn somewhere.

 

[Buizel91]

If anyone looks at the Halo forums this exact thread has been repeated thousands of times. SO to help clear some confusion. You can't spawn with a power weapon so stop thinking you spawn with weapons that are too powerful to spawn with. If you dont like the colours they are only in customs and possibly free-for-all as teams still have all blue and all red colours. The sentry is probably going to be like the one in Halo 3 which was very weak and easily destroyed. Customistation does not equal Call of Duty and there are no kill-streaks. Also elites are gone not only because the multiplayer is a training program but also it's a new story with new enemies. Sadly you can't please some people so they just choose to ignore people. The whole fighting is equal thing is wrong. One person can have the high ground, one person can have a better weapon, it's never totally fair and if 343 do us proud it will stay the same fairness with everyone being around equal with the abilities just fair to suit playstyle. Wait till we see some actual good gameplay rather than this leaked thing. It is probably from a months old betta.

I agree with this guy, stop belly aching until we have some more info yes?

OT: People didn't like the look of Reach's customization when it was first revealed, however it turned out to be great.

Basically it may look crap at first, but it could turn out to be great.

 

[Buizel91]

The two primary weapons load out is so OP. That means you can have both the DMR and BR at once! Why use any other loadout? Couple this with the regenerating field and you got yourself an unstoppable spartan who kills at any range, has the ability to regenerate health with a special piece of equipment and this isn't even having the support upgrade.

Even without using CoD stuff, there will be OP loadouts.

Your a little behind OP. All this stuff was at least covered in the GI issue.

The pics weren't in the GI issue. They were leaked on neoGAF in a barn somewhere.

There are game modes in Reach with the DMR and Assault Rifle, coupled with Jet Packs, Armour Locks, Barrel Rolling AND Drop Sheilds, (which replenish your health) are not overpowered.

Don't jump to conclusions over 1 image

 

[Buizel91]

I just hope they don't allow people to spawn with the energy sword, that would just be retarded. Imagine how retarded that would be, spawning with a 1-hit kill weapon?

And if there's one thing Halo's MP has done well in the past is balance, I think.

Lol'd. Halo 3 was pretty balanced, but that's about it. All the others had a horrendously overpowered weapon or piece of equipment in them.

Well, the only MP I've played "competitively" is 3 and Reach, which seemed pretty balanced to me. Only experience I have with CE and 2's MP is split screen dicking around and two v one LAN matches with friends.

In Halo 2 it was duel wield needle's. In Reach its anyone with any competent use of armor lock, jet-pack or evade and general aim with a plasma grenade or any weapon.

-.-'

Armour Lock is not overpowered, neither are jetpacks or any other ability, and they can be easily killed.

If Bungie/343 didn't include anything new, there would be complaints that nothing changed, no developer can win. No one liked the look of Halo reach but it's a good game, wish everyone would pipe down a little.

 

[Erttheking]

...getting little worked up aren't we?

No, not really.

I just dislike the look of it because all of a sudden theres Stopping Power in Halo.

Why? Why is it there? Why does it need to be there? All it's going to do is fuck up the balance.

Oh, sorry, I forgot. You can customize. Woop de fucking do. If opening a list and selecting something from options is so much fun to you, theres always Excel.

Haha, nice one, but I don't have Excel on my xbox, so I suppose I'll have to buy halo 4.
Also, I didn't see any stopping power in there, though I may have missed it, but if there's gonna be something completely over-powered in there, why won't everyone just start using that?
Besides that, the people making halo 4 probably aren't retarded, so I'm sure they'll manage at least something reasonable.

Anyway, what I was trying to say was that people shouldn't judge the game so definitively purely on the bases of a couple of screens, you know?

Well, I'm not judging the game. I'm just calling it: this won't end well.

I'd be the first to smile if I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be. Typical Halo gameplay + perks and loadouts + weapons that drop at random places = a fucking disaster with the lowest skillcap known to man.

And no, the people at 343 probably aren't mentally impaired, but that doesn't mean they can't make a shit game. The best developers out there today have made the occasional shit game, and 343 is not one of them.

Yes, of course you're not getting worked up, people always swear like that and make ludicrous insults like "why don't you just use excel if you want menus" when they're apathetic towards something.

 

[daveman247]

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Most of the halo's have started you off with some kind of BR and an assault rifle...

I don't see the problem. The assault rifle isn't that great, so how can it be overpowered??

 

[Danne]

I think this has been turned into a Halo 4 hate thread. IMO, you people are overeating just a tad. Well, maybe a little more. OK, You are really overeating. You know who you are. I appreciate people having a cool head about this. As was stated earlier, people hate it when things are changed and when they aren't. I agree, the second pre-order sucks, but you don't have to use it. Some people like stat changes. You can use something else. no one is forcing you to use it. It's just another option. Personally, I don't care if elites are out. The multiplayer will have more of a story, so, at least it makes sense. DMR's are still there because people like using DMR's. I do. Really, I'm looking forward too this. Halo hasn't let me down before. The subtraction of firefight isn't a big deal (Has that even been confirmed?) Because they are replacing it with Spartan Ops. My job is done here. See yall in November!

 

[Skin]

BR is a 5SK, DMR is a 5SK. Add in armor abilities and fucking sprint and we have a game that is going to be hellishly slow.

CE and H2 are praised as the best Halo games for a reason. They were fast paced without being a "twitch" shooter. Halo 3 was a little slower with the removal of Halo 2's fucking broken auto-aim and hitscan, and Reach plays like a fucking comatosed sloth.

Pretty much all i needed to know. Not going to buy this shit till its in the cheapo bin.

 

[Danne]

Actually, people have already played the game. They said it was fast paced and worked well.

 

[ultrachicken]

The amount of hysteria in response to the announcement of loadouts (which has already happened, in non-leak format, so I don't see the point of these leaked images) is absolutely astounding. Take this post for example...

Halo is ment to be fair game, everyone starts off with the same gun, not someone can auto spawn with the weapon they can kill an entire team with without loosing their shields.

There has been no indication whatsoever that you can pick any weapon at all without repercussions. Most likely you'll get to choose between weapons like the Battle Rifle, DMR, Assault Rifle, Plasma Rifle, Magnum, etc. Which are all balanced. Therefore, even though you can pick different guns, the game will likely still be balanced, because the guns will likely still be balanced.

343 just took the additions Reach made to their logical conclusion. What's the big fucking deal?

 

[Rule Britannia]

As a Halo fan and a CoD fan I can see this going really badly but at the same time I think it has some potential. Hopefully 343 studios will have the same level of support as Bungie did when it comes to weapon balancing and glitches and things of similar nature .

Will there be a beta for this or is it too late for that?

 

[Cranky]

Lalala-Halo ended with Reach and only the MP in Halo 3 was fun, there is no such thing as a 4, lalalaala-

Wake up, John. It is time to play more halo. Three more halos at least.

Yeah, I heard the MC is going to have an "adventure" up to the seventh installment. Damnit.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

I think 343 studios dun goofed.

I think they dun goofed quite a bit.

But seriously, did they really not realize this was the thing people were afraid of?

 

[superspartan004]

As a Halo fan and a CoD fan I can see this going really badly but at the same time I think it has some potential. Hopefully 343 studios will have the same level of support as Bungie did when it comes to weapon balancing and glitches and things of similar nature .

Will there be a beta for this or is it too late for that?

Halo 4 will not have an open beta.

I think everyone needs to calm down a little, we have not seen any real gameplay yet, so we dont need to throw the game under the bus until we see some real gameplay footage. Which we will get at E3

Major League Gaming actually got the opportunity to send 8 pro players to play test the game at E3, so it'll be interesting to see what their opinion will be. If anything is broken or OP they'll be the first to figure it out.

 

[Nouw]

The first one looks fucking sweet and would make sense for an underwater type Spartan. The second is a clusterfuck.

Edit: And totally ripped from Dead Space.

First one looks like it was ripped off of a Big Daddy from Bioshock.

Please, don't even start on the whole 'it was ripped from X.' There are other more legitimate things you can complain about the armour.

 

[IBlackKiteI]

343 just took the additions Reach made to their logical conclusion. What's the big fucking deal?

Probably just the lack of info at the moment. We can at this point assume what each of these abilities and what not will do and how they'll affect the game but we don't know for sure, and the idea of features such as an ability to see enemies through walls and an automated sentry gun already sound to some as unavoidably broken and against Halo's playstyle no matter how they're implemented.
For me at least, it's not so much what is already revealed but what might be done with this new (to Halo at least) system. Tons of shooters have very bad implementations of create a class style systems, usually having new players start with much poorer equipment and higher ranking ones having options which are just flat out better rather than balanced alternatives.
Far Cry 2 is in my eyes the worst offender that comes to mind, would you rather the trashy, inaccurate starting weapons or the late game hand cannons and grenade launchers? MW2 is another biggie, especially with the perk upgrades that slap on an added bonus to your abilities rather than give you an option to swap your current ability out for the unlocked one.
Imagine how something like that could potentially carry over to Halo, a game where your access to the tools of the in game trade has only ever been restricted by how you play, not how much you play.

Anyway point is, if they've added a full blown create a class system to matchmaking, what else might they add or change that's fans might disagree with?

Also, one of the screenshots had 'Sniper' as an available class.
*shudder*

 

[Korten12]

343 just took the additions Reach made to their logical conclusion. What's the big fucking deal?

Probably just the lack of info at the moment. We can at this point assume what each of these abilities and what not will do and how they'll affect the game but we don't know for sure, and the idea of features such as an ability to see enemies through walls and an automated sentry gun already sound to some as unavoidably broken and against Halo's playstyle no matter how they're implemented.
For me at least, it's not so much what is already revealed but what might be done with this new (to Halo at least) system. Tons of shooters have very bad implementations of create a class style systems, usually having new players start with much poorer equipment and higher ranking ones having options which are just flat out better rather than balanced alternatives.
Far Cry 2 is in my eyes the worst offender that comes to mind, would you rather the trashy, inaccurate starting weapons or the late game hand cannons and grenade launchers? MW2 is another biggie, especially with the perk upgrades that slap on an added bonus to your abilities rather than give you an option to swap your current ability out for the unlocked one.
Imagine how something like that could potentially carry over to Halo, a game where your access to the tools of the in game trade has only ever been restricted by how you play, not how much you play.

Anyway point is, if they've added a full blown create a class system to matchmaking, what else might they add or change that's fans might disagree with?

Also, one of the screenshots had 'Sniper' as an available class.
*shudder*

They already confirmed that you can't spawn with the sniper, it's a drop only.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

The first one looks fucking sweet and would make sense for an underwater type Spartan. The second is a clusterfuck.

Edit: And totally ripped from Dead Space.

First one looks like it was ripped off of a Big Daddy from Bioshock.

Please, don't even start on the whole 'it was ripped from X.' There are other more legitimate things you can complain about the armour.

Like how it was ripped off Y?