Well, the election is tomorrow.....(for America, dumbass)

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Retoru

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bigcountry78 said:
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Since it is the third, the election is tomorrow, and I'm pretty much pissing myself with excitement. It's a first if either of them get elected, and for the first time since the 1928 election, there are no incumbents.
Any predictions?

Obama's gonna get elected good.....
How is it the first time since 1928 that there are no incumbents? There wasn't an incumbent president in the 2000 election, there wasn't an incumbent president in the 1988 election, there wasn't an incumbent president in the 1968 election, there wasn't an incumbent president in the 1960 election...need I continue?
Because Cheney is not running. In those you listed the vice president ran for president.

Riots or a public disterbance? What would make you think that? I don't think much will change, Other than if Obama get elected Im buying a gun on the 5th.
Being VP doesn't make you incumbent, incumbent means you're running for election to the same position you currently hold. Though, using your logic you're still wrong. As recently as 1952 we had an election where the sitting president and sitting vice president were not on the ticket for the office.

In the 1952 election we had Adlai Stevenson running against Dwight Eisenhower, but the sitting president was Harry Truman, who chose not to run for re-election and the sitting vice presidnent was Alben Barkley who couldn't secure the nomination against Stevenson.

Seriously, do your research, man.
 

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zhoomout said:
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If Obama gets in, some supremecist, tobacco-chewing inbread from the deep south will have killed him by christmas.
And if McCain gets in he will have had a heart attack by then. So really we are just voting for the vice presidents.

I vote Sarah Palin!
Sarah ridiculed herself by her gullibility. She basically made us see that with a little conviction you can make her believe the weirdest stuff. Do you really want her to make the decisions?
Wait a sec... you realise that was a joke, don't you?
I realised she got tricked into believing a comedian was the president of France if that's what you mean. If what you mean is that she was in on it I have no knowledge of this and would like confirmation.
No, no. Sorry, I meant that I was joking when I said about voting for her (cos I wouldn't for the recored).

Irony is difficult on the net, isn't it?
Yes indeed, it's the verbal component that's missing which makes written text that much less appealing to me. Or you'd have to lay it on real thick.

However I kind of knew no one around here would ever even have a high/drunk wet dream about ever voting for Palin. I just needed to say it so I look like a non-american that knows at least something about the election :p
 

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I agree that Obama is likely to win. I'm just afraid of him getting the chance to sit two Supreme Court Justices without the fear of a fillibuster. At least with McCain, most of his idiot ideas (umm, health care) would never pass through Congress. Part of me believes that McCain is the safer choice, just because Congress can keep him (or Palin) in check. I'm just uncomfortable handing all the keys to my government to a party that I don't think gives a damn about me as an educated, successful, and white veteran.
 

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Retoru post=18.75849.882570 said:
Yeah, Sarah Palin is just so cool, lol. She's such a moronic twat that she managed to get herself prank called by a Canadian radio show and didn't even realize it even though the guy sounds nothing like Sarkozy and says a bunch of off the wall things.
that was freaking awesome, she really showed how little she understood, especially when she said it was good they liked the biography on her "hustler's nailing palin"

she either wasn't paying attention to what they were saying or didn't care, the song translates to "red lipstick on a pig" not what they claim
 

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its strange... if this was an international vote (which, considering the amount of influence America has over the world, maybe it should be), then Obama would win really easily... outside America John McCain really isn't popular, and Sarah Palin is even less popular!
Being one of those internationalists (British to be pricise) i hope Obama wins :p
 

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Erana post=18.75849.882679 said:
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Obama's going to win, but because America isn't very well educated,
Are you serious? WTF? That is so derogatory. STFU.
Well, if we learned about the real cradle of modern civilization, instead about Roman gods and Egypt, (or ideally, both) we wouldn't be so keen on voting in a president of a party that wants to invade Iran.
Our education system is horribly flawed, in general. Real Republicanism makes sense. This recent bastardization of the concept does not.

...Or did you think me an angry Canadian?
actually rome, greece and egypt have had more impact on our society than anything else, so we are learning the correct history we should be

the middle east has only donated some science, the first written code of law (that we know of) and numbers 1-9, the zero comes from india. most of the "cradle" you're refering to was located in iraq not iran, Babylon and Mesopotamia was in modern day iraq not iran

btw your first statement is seriously flawed and funny at the same time but probly not intentionally
 

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Erana said:
axia777 said:
Erana said:
Obama's going to win, but because America isn't very well educated,
Are you serious? WTF? That is so derogatory. STFU.
Well, if we learned about the real cradle of modern civilization, instead about Roman gods and Egypt, (or ideally, both) we wouldn't be so keen on voting in a president of a party that wants to invade Iran.
Our education system is horribly flawed, in general. Real Republicanism makes sense. This recent bastardization of the concept does not.

...Or did you think me an angry Canadian?
I agree a good slice of America is ignorant. This painfully true, but in general it is relatively well educated.

That and what cleverlymadeup said.
 

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as many people was blatantly pointed out,it is extremely likely that obama will get in... as close as the race is, these still that 14% undecided, plus obama freaking owns the media...
sadly, i do predict an assasination, especially if hes the best president we've had in a while. A because as much as it pains me to admit, racism still runs deep, and im sure there arre a handful of Americans who couldn't stand him being in office (just stating facts, i dont want to start any flaming)B, as a pretty reaccuring thread, you notice its pretty much all of the presidents who have been assasinated have been good for america, (Kennedy, Lincoln etc) so its possible foreign countries may not want to see obama in office. I personally think its time for a democrat candidate to get in, and as a Canadian, i hope Obama makes it, but well see tommorow
 

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If Obama gets killed while in office I am Canada bound. That or Europe. America's international image will be ruined for decades.
 

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Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
 

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Although I'm always leary of having a President and Congress of the same party, I also know that it's necessary to deal with some of this country's problems. The risks are great, but so are the potential rewards. I'm supporting Obama. Besides, Obama's policies are quite favorable to a college student.
 

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zhoomout said:
Sennz0r said:
zhoomout said:
H.S.T said:
If Obama gets in, some supremecist, tobacco-chewing inbread from the deep south will have killed him by christmas.
And if McCain gets in he will have had a heart attack by then. So really we are just voting for the vice presidents.

I vote Sarah Palin!
Sarah ridiculed herself by her gullibility. She basically made us see that with a little conviction you can make her believe the weirdest stuff. Do you really want her to make the decisions?
Wait a sec... you realise that was a joke, don't you?
thank goooood that was a joke, you kind of made my faith in humanity die a little.
 

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TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
 

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Please for the love of the future don't let McCain in! No more republicans for at least two decades please! I think I might move to sweden...
 

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Beowulf DW said:
TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
and also, why do people assume Obama is ball-less when it comes to defense and that we will fall to "terrorists", in time of war no president has failed us.
 

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Beowulf DW said:
TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
If he has a filibuster Congress then he just might.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
actually rome, greece and egypt have had more impact on our society than anything else, so we are learning the correct history we should be

the middle east has only donated some science, the first written code of law (that we know of) and numbers 1-9, the zero comes from india. most of the "cradle" you're refering to was located in iraq not iran, Babylon and Mesopotamia was in modern day iraq not iran

btw your first statement is seriously flawed and funny at the same time but probly not intentionally
1. So, I'm the only one who found it odd that they teach more about the Roman gods than about their society and government system?
2. What, exactly, did Egypt do for us if science is so apparently unimportant for modern Western society?
3. when I said, "both," I was saying that we, ideally, should teach our kids about ancient cultures and Arab civilization.
3. The Arab Empire (and its many dirivitave societies) is a significant factor in our culture. Not only sciences, but things like soap, arcetecture (most notably the vaulted arches of places of worship), extensive social mobility, trade to the rest of the (then) known world and religious tolerance are only a few things that effect the modern Western world. Its as least as relevent as how the Egyptians mummified people, in my opinion. Not to mention the proximity in time to the true development of Western culture, and the Ottoman's participation in WW1, and the subsequent screw up by the winning party.
4. I never said Iraq was the cradle of civilization, and what about Bagdhad, anyway?
5. What's wrong with my first statement? Virginia and Pennsylvania are important states. And by my saying that we are not very well educated, I really don't think we are. We are better educated than much of the world, but we can definitely do better than this. If we went to war with Iran, we would become an even bigger laughingstock, and be even more hated by Arab cultures. I know that because I am actively seeking to learn about the rest of the world in a setting of higher education and opportunity I realise that most Americans never get. And I have a kickass professor.

btw the amount of assumptions you make is flawed and funny at the same time but probly not intentionally
 

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
Beowulf DW said:
TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
and also, why do people assume Obama is ball-less when it comes to defense and that we will fall to "terrorists", in time of war no president has failed us.
Well, I think why most people think he is "ball-less" is because he wants to leave Iraq no matter what. Now, I don't believe that the Iraq war is necessary, but I do think that it is necessary to win. Leaving without an agreement with the Iraqi's sends a pretty clear message that America of old, where we could weather a hard fought conflict and prevail, is dead. It also should serve as a warning to our allies that when they need us, America will be there, at least until we have lost 4 or 5 thousand of our soldiers, then we'll pack up and head home "responsibly"...