Consider the circumstances a little more... Humanity is almost right fucked up here.mrwoo6 said:
What do you think is the greatest epic fail for humanity?
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Saelune said:
Agreed from what I can work out major Christian events (such as the crusades, Inquisitions,) have caused around 6 million deaths, that doesn?t even begin to comprehend the number of people worldwide that have died as a result of all religions. The fact that quite possibly billions of people around the world since the beginning of time have died because of bad fan fiction just pisses me of when I have people, oblivious about the violent history of their religion, preaching peace and love to me.
Im also annoyed at religion, but mainly because any wrong they do/use to gain control is always excused with "god wanted it so".
Now excuse me if im wrong here, but I have never seen in any major religion the idea that the only way to show someone their way of thinking was brute force. I can undertand preachers trying to convert people or the door to door ones- whilst I disagree with what their actually doing, at least their doing it for the right reasons. Meanwhile, the other half are brutally murdering people, slowing down development of science and the human race altogether and downright lying (The guy who went across translating the bible got death threats because it meant that people could no longer use it for their own benifit. Religion halting progress of religion itself is a failure in my books) all because apprantly their higher power who talked to some guy millennia ago said it was a great idea.
Now ive read most of this thread, and most of the people who are arguing against what saelune pointed out are mostly...well their not understanding religion is supposed to preach. "Without religion we would still be feral"? Bull. Religion back in the day served as an explination for why stuff we did'nt understand worked, and trying to figure out how it actually worked got you killed. Last time I checked, thats activly stopping progress for the sake of not holding what you belive is the correct way of looking at things (Such as how dinosaurs went extinct, or the plate movement theory) but for the sake of a fairy tale. Somebody has a gripe with what you belive in-thats always going to happen. But rather than accepting it and putting your point forward, your saying that saelune is flat out wrong.
One last interesting fact: The pope recently congratulated people who have sex without a condom, because preventing STD's which still kill today and unwanted children is far worse than having god think your an awful person for putting some rubber on. If someone can show me the text where it says "thou shall not use a condom" I will shut up about it.
Now excuse me if im wrong here, but I have never seen in any major religion the idea that the only way to show someone their way of thinking was brute force. I can undertand preachers trying to convert people or the door to door ones- whilst I disagree with what their actually doing, at least their doing it for the right reasons. Meanwhile, the other half are brutally murdering people, slowing down development of science and the human race altogether and downright lying (The guy who went across translating the bible got death threats because it meant that people could no longer use it for their own benifit. Religion halting progress of religion itself is a failure in my books) all because apprantly their higher power who talked to some guy millennia ago said it was a great idea.
Now ive read most of this thread, and most of the people who are arguing against what saelune pointed out are mostly...well their not understanding religion is supposed to preach. "Without religion we would still be feral"? Bull. Religion back in the day served as an explination for why stuff we did'nt understand worked, and trying to figure out how it actually worked got you killed. Last time I checked, thats activly stopping progress for the sake of not holding what you belive is the correct way of looking at things (Such as how dinosaurs went extinct, or the plate movement theory) but for the sake of a fairy tale. Somebody has a gripe with what you belive in-thats always going to happen. But rather than accepting it and putting your point forward, your saying that saelune is flat out wrong.
One last interesting fact: The pope recently congratulated people who have sex without a condom, because preventing STD's which still kill today and unwanted children is far worse than having god think your an awful person for putting some rubber on. If someone can show me the text where it says "thou shall not use a condom" I will shut up about it.
+1 Religion.
I still cannot believe people still believe the rubbish.
It is so so obvious that it is a human creation, just look at how this "God" acts in all religious texts.
I still cannot believe people still believe the rubbish.
It is so so obvious that it is a human creation, just look at how this "God" acts in all religious texts.
Either Justin Beiber or not chaining women to the kitchen where they should be...where's my pie?!
Well that or thinking "Duhhh we dont need free health care world wide, or to help starving people we need a bigger gun!"
Well that or thinking "Duhhh we dont need free health care world wide, or to help starving people we need a bigger gun!"
Our greatest mistake?
Taking the words of the bureaucrats more seriously than the words of the artists.
Taking the words of the bureaucrats more seriously than the words of the artists.
You...Icehearted said:
It's just surprising to see anybody write that... I thought we were in a world divided between "Christians" and Atheists, Christians who throw every verse in the bible at gays or atheists and only show ignorance and hate (they are either hypocrites or morons), and athiests who believe God is rubbish simply because of the flaws of the people that worship him...
I thought someone who sees past this, someone like you, didn't exist, I was wrong thankfully.
Peace to everyone, no matter their sexual orientation or beliefs, that will be all.
You're attacking religion, while you should direct your anger towards the people that abuse religion in favour of political power. Religion boiled down is about peace and love. All religions are about peace and love, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, ...Saelune said:
To the OP: WWII didn't start simply because of 3 men wanting to rule the world. Without WWI there would not have been a second, and even WWI isn't the sole cause for WWII.
At this moment I can't recall any epic fails, but I'm sure I passed some during my classes.
EDIT: oh wait, Antonio Meucci not receiving credit for inventing the telephone.
EDIT2: after reading some of the posts above me; I can't believe you guys actually target religion so badly. It's a CONCEPT for Pete's sake, THERE ARE HUMANS BEHIND IT!
Failure was not very clearly defined.
It is interesting how many people take the premise that loss of human life is bad. If it were not for disease, natural disasters, war, famine, ect. we would have starved ourselves out ages ago.
If we are going to continue without breeding restrictions and continue to improve medical technology we need to more heavily invest in terraforming and space travel because this rock is already over maximum capacity.
It is interesting how many people take the premise that loss of human life is bad. If it were not for disease, natural disasters, war, famine, ect. we would have starved ourselves out ages ago.
If we are going to continue without breeding restrictions and continue to improve medical technology we need to more heavily invest in terraforming and space travel because this rock is already over maximum capacity.
Really? I thought most atheists don't believe in god because of the scientific impossibilities (Not to mention plot holes the size of a battleship), in the bible, and because many of the teachings are rubbish (Ex. Homosexuality is wrong.) At least, that is why me and the atheists I know do >.> Doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to not believe in something because a lot of people that practice a religion are ignorant.Anti Nudist Cupcake said:You...Icehearted said:
It's just surprising to see anybody write that... I thought we were in a world divided between "Christians" and Atheists, Christians who throw every verse in the bible at gays or atheists and only show ignorance and hate (they are either hypocrites or morons), and athiests who believe God is rubbish simply because of the flaws of the people that worship him...
I thought someone who sees past this, someone like you, didn't exist, I was wrong thankfully.
Peace to everyone, no matter their sexual orientation or beliefs, that will be all.
Any video on the internet where people purposly get themselves hit in the testicular region. Atleast they are removing themselves from the gene pool.
I don't know about most epic fail ever, but most recent has got to be Germany closing all of it's nuclear power plants because of the Fukushima plant disaster, presumably Germany feel's it's at risk of earthquakes and unprecedentedly large tsunamis, I thought those guys were meant to be smart?