What do you think is the most believable conspiracy theory is?

[Undercover]

I like the Freemason idea. It's complete BS but some of my friends joined a Masonic Temple so they'd be on the right side when the time comes.

I'm a Mason, and we're not up to anything. Trust me, most of us are just old men.

AHA! That's just what "They" want us to think!

I am so just kidding. I actually wrote a short story in High School about a guy who gets hit by lightning, and goes into a parallel dimension where he meets "Them" (You know, the people that you're talking about when you say things like "They say that blah blah blah") I can't remember all the dialogue, but I remember the best line from it: Main character: "Wait, you mean you're them? As in they? As in the "them" that everyone gives everything credit for?" Them: "That's right, that's us." Main character: "They say that you guys don't really exist." Them: "No we didn't."

(Sigh) I have entirely too much time on my hands. Damn self-employment.

I'm gonna go outside and talk to a girl.

That story sounds really interesting. If you have a copy kicking about it might be a fun read.

I'm convinced that the US government is testing Black Aircraft as we speak.

You never heard of Operation Soul Plane [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367085/], you got me?!

DAMMIT! Again I have to wipe teriyaki chicken shrapnel off my monitor. (Sigh) When am I gonna learn? I know exactly what movie you're talking about. Nice one. Best line in the movie: "I hate security, I never have time to spend with my daughters because I'm always too busy securing shit..." -Classic

As far as the short story goes, it would take a lot of digging but yeah I'll see if I can find it. I remember I got 100% on it as well as some awards for short story writing, and it was published in a couple of youth literary magazines. (The funny thing is, I was interviewed by this magazine called "Magpie" and when they asked me what inspired the story, I made up some bullshit about how "A Conneticut Yankee in King Athur's court" was the inspiration. At the time I figured it would be a safer answer than "Bong Hits".)

It was all of about 10 pages long and my english teacher actually read it to the class... AND THEY LIKED IT!

Usually that kind of thing will only bring ridicule and misery, (And most likely a gonch-pull The Canadian version of a wedgie)

-Stay tuned

 

[Undercover]

I do believe that the Trade Towers was "helped" in their destruction. Two planes fully loaded and flamable slam into buildings. The towers fell evenly and onto themselves. Physics and structural design should have had the buildings fall off of their beams and outwards. Also the first level the colapsed on each tower seemed to break evenly. My uncles and i had a dinner discussion about it and my cousin who is an army engineer also added the evidence that the tower should have bent towards where the beams where broken/bent/weakened by the impact. If the towers fell outward their could have been many more people killed. I believe that the towers where destroyed by charges and the planes for effect. It doesn't change that this was a regretable loss of life. for the dead RIP,

Again, you especially need to watch Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist addendum. No crazy conspiracy theories, but you'll find them VERY interesting. Personally I think that all free-thinking individuals need to see these movies. Click here [http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/] and get informed. No biased Michael Moore bullshit, no finger pointing, just facts and logic.

 

[Undercover]

Most believable? Well, none that i've heard. All the theories end up sounding like cockamamie stories that some whack-job who never leaves his basement for fear that the fucking CIA is outside watching him or something because he's "so smart" and "knows the truth".

I can believe in logical things, such as intelligent life in other solar systems, but stuff like the CIA had Kennedy killed just boggles my mind in absurdity. Or the whole "Bush planned 9/11" nonsense, it's all mindless gibberish from rambling lunatics with an unhealthy obsession with poorly written movies.

I heartily suggest you and everyone else reading this thread watch "Zeitgeist" and "Zeitgeist addendum", both available for free right here. [http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/]

No wild eyed conspiracy theories, no lunatics. You believe in logic? Watch the movies.

I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, but these two award winning films might.

I'll give them a look later tonight. If it's something logical that makes sense then I might go with it, but if it's more "the government is plotting something evil" bullshit then i'll stop it and never watch it again.

It's like with the movie 2012, I think it looks stupid. Not only because I don't buy into the whole "it's the end of the world" bullshit, but also because I thought we got out of the 90's and away from disaster movies.

Although the first movie in part examines the whole 9/11 subject, it doesn't point fingers or suggest any conspiracies, but it does raise some questions. Zeitgeist Addendum delves into the whole central banking system and why it is so very, very WRONG. Don't stop watching just because you don't agree with one detail, I guarantee you'll be both surprised and informed.
And hopefully by the end of them, really really pissed off.

Example: The United States was formed based on a rebellion AWAY from the central banking system, but then something stupid happened like it always seems to. But before I turn this into a novel... (What, ME? Nah, I never post anything more than a couple of sentences... [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.127327?page=2])

 

[Llewen Ebag]

I think those loose chance videos make the most sense when you talk about conspiracies.

Everything else is bat-shit insane.

 

[LaBambaMan]

I like the Freemason idea. It's complete BS but some of my friends joined a Masonic Temple so they'd be on the right side when the time comes.

I'm a Mason, and we're not up to anything. Trust me, most of us are just old men.

AHA! That's just what "They" want us to think!

I am so just kidding. I actually wrote a short story in High School about a guy who gets hit by lightning, and goes into a parallel dimension where he meets "Them" (You know, the people that you're talking about when you say things like "They say that blah blah blah") I can't remember all the dialogue, but I remember the best line from it: Main character: "Wait, you mean you're them? As in they? As in the "them" that everyone gives everything credit for?" Them: "That's right, that's us." Main character: "They say that you guys don't really exist." Them: "No we didn't."

I actually had someone accuse me of being a part of the conspiracy in high school because I was in a youth group organized by us Masons, to which I simply walked away laughing at his craziness.

Wait! Are you telling me the Masons aren't conquering the world with genetically engineered radioactive fish children with missile fingers!?

Missile fingers? That's just silly, we give them missile nipples....oh wait...said too much. Where do you live, what with having to kill you now.

You know what's sad? Someone going to see that and think your telling the truth.

I'm sure they are, which will make it all the funnier.

 

[LaBambaMan]

I like the Freemason idea. It's complete BS but some of my friends joined a Masonic Temple so they'd be on the right side when the time comes.

I'm a Mason, and we're not up to anything. Trust me, most of us are just old men.

AHA! That's just what "They" want us to think!

I am so just kidding. I actually wrote a short story in High School about a guy who gets hit by lightning, and goes into a parallel dimension where he meets "Them" (You know, the people that you're talking about when you say things like "They say that blah blah blah") I can't remember all the dialogue, but I remember the best line from it: Main character: "Wait, you mean you're them? As in they? As in the "them" that everyone gives everything credit for?" Them: "That's right, that's us." Main character: "They say that you guys don't really exist." Them: "No we didn't."

I actually had someone accuse me of being a part of the conspiracy in high school because I was in a youth group organized by us Masons, to which I simply walked away laughing at his craziness.

(Sigh) I have entirely too much time on my hands. Damn self-employment.

I'm gonna go outside and talk to a girl.

A what now?

Ok I'm going to have to add "No eating" to the list of things not to be doing when I'm reading through thread posts. (Wipes teriyaki chicken off of monitor)

My buddy is a 3rd generation mason, and besides acknowledging that there is indeed a secret handshake, (or he was just fucking with me) nothing nefarious as far as he knows goes on in the masons.

BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SECRET, ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE THAT NO ONE ELSE DOES

You know, about masonry, construction, physics, etc. What did you think I meant?

I do have a question though that my friend couldn't answer. Is it true that some of the mason's members can trace their ancestry as far back as ancient egypt? If so, that is really, I mean REALLY impressive.

I once knew a guy (18 year old Carpenter's apprentice) who was a mason legacy, but couldn't keep his mouth shut about certain things. I bet you know what I'm talking about. Certain symbols on pieces of jewellery and what not. (And I'm not stupid enough to elaborate, so don't worry.) After a while he stopped talking about masonic subjects altogether, I mean he wouldn't even admit he was a mason. I'd imagine the penalties for giving away traditions (Notice how I said traditions rather than secrets?) would be pretty steep. Being a mason has a lot of privileges I wish I'd had when I was in the trades...

We do have some old school secrets, but I can tell you this: I know jack shit about them. I'm a low level Mason who's pretty much bottom rung. The stuff I know is pretty much the stuff everybody knows, except I know the handshakes and passwords

As far as tracing linage back to Egypt, couldn't tell ya. All the guys in my lodge are old white folks with English and German linage. I'm sure someone can, I just don't know them personally.

Yeah, you're sworn to secrecy about certain things. Sure there's a few Masonic symbols floating around, but they're nothing nefarious or evil. As far as giving away secrets, yeah that'll get you booted out rather quickly.

 

[Bagaloo]

I like the Freemason idea. It's complete BS but some of my friends joined a Masonic Temple so they'd be on the right side when the time comes.

I'm a Mason, and we're not up to anything. Trust me, most of us are just old men.

AHA! That's just what "They" want us to think!

I am so just kidding. I actually wrote a short story in High School about a guy who gets hit by lightning, and goes into a parallel dimension where he meets "Them" (You know, the people that you're talking about when you say things like "They say that blah blah blah") I can't remember all the dialogue, but I remember the best line from it: Main character: "Wait, you mean you're them? As in they? As in the "them" that everyone gives everything credit for?" Them: "That's right, that's us." Main character: "They say that you guys don't really exist." Them: "No we didn't."

(Sigh) I have entirely too much time on my hands. Damn self-employment.

I'm gonna go outside and talk to a girl.

Don't do that, instead post the story, it sounds interesting

OT; maybe "the government is plotting evil shit" theories are slightly more believable due to plausibility? I don't know, I don't really take any notice of them.

 

[Undercover]

This lady knows her shit.

this person makes me sad to be human im sorry it just depressing

OT: 9/11 was the u.s. governments fault it was planned by them.
go watch some zeitgiest that got a bunch of conspiracys by them also the the loose change video is more specificly about the 9/11 incident.
here are teh sites
http://www.loosechange911.com/
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



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its all a conspiracy man.
^^

sorry, I just get annoyed when people say this, even if they are joking, so I'd like to introduce you to this [http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html].

I'd say UFO's are probably real. The aliens probably think we're too stupid to bother making contact with. I can't blame them.

my dad always liked to point out that aliens had no reason to come to earth more than twice, once if they were mapping out the region, and a second time if they were going to introduce themselves. since the second hasn't happened, and the first could have but we don't know, why would they keep showing up?

You're going to take the word of a writer for cracked.com? Zeitgeist does NOT I repeat NOT, N-O-T suggest any conspiracy theories whatsoever. It presents evidence, and nothing more. It's up to YOU to decide for yourself. Wikicated, I'm sorry to be so harsh, but pull your head out of your ass, stop making assumptions and learn to type.

As far as the whole aliens thing goes, I think the immortal Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes fame said it best: "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."

-Amen to that.

 

[malkavianmadman]

I personally like the Illuminati idea especially since they are named in so many games movies books etc. Think of it the best way to be a secret society is to put yourself in everything so that when someone finds out the truth they are laughed off as a mad man.

 

[theklng]

Most believable? Well, none that i've heard. All the theories end up sounding like cockamamie stories that some whack-job who never leaves his basement for fear that the fucking CIA is outside watching him or something because he's "so smart" and "knows the truth".

I can believe in logical things, such as intelligent life in other solar systems, but stuff like the CIA had Kennedy killed just boggles my mind in absurdity. Or the whole "Bush planned 9/11" nonsense, it's all mindless gibberish from rambling lunatics with an unhealthy obsession with poorly written movies.

I heartily suggest you and everyone else reading this thread watch "Zeitgeist" and "Zeitgeist addendum", both available for free right here. [http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/]

No wild eyed conspiracy theories, no lunatics. You believe in logic? Watch the movies.

I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, but these two award winning films might.

the only good thing about the zeitgeist movie is where it tells you how you can legally avoid paying taxes. i double checked it, and there's actually a lawyer on a site that helped people getting through. talk about being outside of the matrix.

 

[Cortheya]

Megan Fox is actually an amalgam of CGI, animatronics, and holograms.

It makes sense, have you ever actually touched a Megan Fox?

I gotta get my hands on that technology.....My own personal Megan Fox.....
My favorite one is the whole "Men In Black Are Real" XD

 

[lacktheknack]

This lady knows her shit.

Yeah I heard about that hick.

Would someone first please explain to this barely verbal smacktard of a woman what 'spell check' is? (Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in my opinion, makes someone lose credibility more than when they can't even spell their own bloody conspiracy properly.) And secondly, would someone explain that a freakin' rainbow is sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets, but put it into language that her uneducated, Southern United States brain can understand?

"God does it."

People like her make me want to dig out my own eyes with sharpened, red hot SPOONS.

She- was- quite- clearly- joking.

She was probably making a dig at the very people you hold in such disregard.

OT: I guess the moon landings... but they were real.

 

[Froobyx]

http://www.johntitor.com/

Am having a read of this atm, only read the first page so far.

But it's about some guy who's apparently from 2036 (back in 2000)

EDIT: After reading more, we're all gonna get nuked by Russia in 2015. WW3! apparently

 

[quiet_samurai]

The JFK assassination, I don't think Oswalt was solely responsible. Kennedy was pissing alot of people off during that time and many of them were very influential and powerful people. I think Oswalt was probably involved, I just don't think he realized how much until it already happend.

 

[Plazmatic]

Has any one even seen the second zeitgeist? You need to see it, that is possibly the most truthful conspiracy, you can look all that up your self, you will find the same exact results. I literally cried at the end, the movie has a major lesson, we need to get rid of the elitism and have a resource based society, we can get rid of poverty, the world needs to be united.

 

[Undercover]

This lady knows her shit.

Yeah I heard about that hick.

Would someone first please explain to this barely verbal smacktard of a woman what 'spell check' is? (Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in my opinion, makes someone lose credibility more than when they can't even spell their own bloody conspiracy properly.) And secondly, would someone explain that a freakin' rainbow is sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets, but put it into language that her uneducated, Southern United States brain can understand?

"God does it."

People like her make me want to dig out my own eyes with sharpened, red hot SPOONS.

She- was- quite- clearly- joking.

She was probably making a dig at the very people you hold in such disregard.

OT: I guess the moon landings... but they were real.

Sadly, no she wasn't. I saw a legitimate news story about this (well, ok as legitimate a story as CNN can get) a while back, and yes this woman truly believes that the American government is putting chemicals into the water supply for some nefarious reason. I know its hard to believe, but there truly are people in the world that stupid...

 

[black lincon]

This lady knows her shit.

this person makes me sad to be human im sorry it just depressing

OT: 9/11 was the u.s. governments fault it was planned by them.
go watch some zeitgiest that got a bunch of conspiracys by them also the the loose change video is more specificly about the 9/11 incident.
here are teh sites
http://www.loosechange911.com/
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



>.>
<.<
its all a conspiracy man.
^^

sorry, I just get annoyed when people say this, even if they are joking, so I'd like to introduce you to this [http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html].

I'd say UFO's are probably real. The aliens probably think we're too stupid to bother making contact with. I can't blame them.

my dad always liked to point out that aliens had no reason to come to earth more than twice, once if they were mapping out the region, and a second time if they were going to introduce themselves. since the second hasn't happened, and the first could have but we don't know, why would they keep showing up?

You're going to take the word of a writer for cracked.com? Zeitgeist does NOT I repeat NOT, N-O-T suggest any conspiracy theories whatsoever. It presents evidence, and nothing more. It's up to YOU to decide for yourself. Wikicated, I'm sorry to be so harsh, but pull your head out of your ass, stop making assumptions and learn to type.

now there are several things wrong with your rebut. first and foremost, is the insult to my typing. there is a total of one thing wrong with my typing, I don't capitalize the first letter of the first word in a sentence, if that's such a huge deal to you, maybe you should take a chill pill and be a little less uptight.

secondly, not once did I mention Zeitgeist, I wouldn't stoop so low as to watch that move, however as a result of that I don't feel I have the authority to make any comments on its content. I have no time to explain why conspiracy theories are stupid, and I fell slightly ashamed in myself that I have to justify someone who wouldn't take an article on it's own merits, instead of being predisposed to rejection because of it's source.

lastly, and most importantly, did you even read the article in question? or did you see cracked.com and assume it had no value? because if you had you would have noticed it made no mention of the film Zeitgeist, it was talking about a film loose change, which does state that there was a conspiracy. you know who else does? the guy I quoted, I was rebutting his argument, I made no comment on Zeitgeist. Next time you feel like complaining about people complaining about Zeitgeist, do it to someone actually complaining about Zeitgeist.

oh, and Zeitgeist is a stupid name for a movie.

 

[bassie302]

I haven't come across a single conspiracy that even íf they made a modestly believable start didn't completely go bonkers.

 

[1ronJ4m]

Well I don't believe it but it's not very heart-warming: The "2012 end of world theory" comes from the Mayan calendar that states 2012 as the "end of time". This can be interpreted into either the date the calendar ends, or the date the world ends. Now some guys say that some kinda "extra" dwarf star is part of this solar system, and in 2012, it will hit the Earth. (and the mayans knew about this star somehow) They also say that scientists knew about this for a long time, but won't say shit because they don't want a panic.

Edit: the star's name is Nibiru btw
But I doubt it exists cuz something that close and that shiny would be simply the brightest star in the sky.

 

[RufusMcLaser]

That David Icke fellow, who appears to believe that the entire world is run by shapeshifting Reptilian aliens who have, in fact, taken the roles of most of our world leaders... Well, his has got to be my favorite. It's so deliciously unfalsifiable.

I've had it up to here with low-quality 9/11 conspiracies. The attacks were clearly the result of a conspiracy, said conspiracy comprised primarily of the hijackers we're all familiar with. Suggestions that a controlled demolition was involved in any of the WTC collapses is a head-scratcher and no mistake. I mean, have any of these people ever seen the amount of work that involved in rigging a structure for controlled demolition? It's not exactly something you can hide easily.

But this will never go away. The only solution is to laugh, and make sure people with such opinions are not elected to any office beyond dogcatcher.