what do you think of the U.S. swim team suspending Phelps?

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Merciless.Fire

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He did do something illegal, yes, but to be honest, who hasn't?

We ALL know, or should know, that millions of people do it everyday, around the world and in the US. Phelps being a world-class athlete shouldn't give him immunity, but it does attract the attention in order to get him in trouble for doing it. He being famous is the reason he got suspended, smoking pot was just the catalyst.

He may be a role model to swimmers across the globe, but smoking pot shouldn't kill the inspiration. It has NOTHING to do with his swimming capability.
 

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Merciless.Fire said:
He did do something illegal, yes, but to be honest, who hasn't?

We ALL know, or should know, that millions of people do it everyday, around the world and in the US. Phelps being a world-class athlete shouldn't give him immunity, but it does attract the attention in order to get him in trouble for doing it. He being famous is the reason he got suspended, smoking pot was just the catalyst.

He may be a role model to swimmers across the globe, but smoking pot shouldn't kill the inspiration. It has NOTHING to do with his swimming capability.
I haven't done anything illegal, not that it is hard not too. I don't know if I would view a "doper" as much of a role model after finding it out.
 

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Personally, I think it's stupid. Not the suspending, I guess he deserved that (there is the law and everything), but the whole fiasco everyone is making it out to be is really stupid. He's 23. He smoked pot. Big fucking whoop. A lot of 23 year olds smoke pot (or have smoked). I can't see how nobody saw it coming anyway. During the Olympics, all you heard about were the hellish training regimens and schedules he had. Now we know how he got through it all.
mokes310 said:
The rules are there for a reason, however, I do think that we have a flawed view of Marijuana in the US. Would one of their members had recieved similar treatment if they were caught drinking underage?
Funny story. He was caught drinking underage about four years ago (and driving, no less). Nobody cares anymore, and they didn't make as big a deal about it then.
imperialwar said:
i have to laugh at Phelps. Nobody is going to take him seriously anymore after this.
Yeah i won X amount of medals and i'm doper... nice touch.
He could have milked his medals for years, now advertisers arent going to want to touch him due to the image.
Yeah, because the reputations of the last 3 Presidents have really suffered since they admitted to doing drugs.
 

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GreenDevilJF said:
Merciless.Fire said:
He did do something illegal, yes, but to be honest, who hasn't?

We ALL know, or should know, that millions of people do it everyday, around the world and in the US. Phelps being a world-class athlete shouldn't give him immunity, but it does attract the attention in order to get him in trouble for doing it. He being famous is the reason he got suspended, smoking pot was just the catalyst.

He may be a role model to swimmers across the globe, but smoking pot shouldn't kill the inspiration. It has NOTHING to do with his swimming capability.
I haven't done anything illegal, not that it is hard not too. I don't know if I would view a "doper" as much of a role model after finding it out.
It's a big statement saying you haven't done something against the rules even once in your lifetime. You would call Phelps a doper because he did it once that you know about? People experiment all the time, I have, but I don't do it on a regular basis.
 

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scoobyduped said:
Personally, I think it's stupid. Not the suspending, I guess he deserved that (there is the law and everything), but the whole fiasco everyone is making it out to be is really stupid. He's 23. He smoked pot. Big fucking whoop. A lot of 23 year olds smoke pot (or have smoked). I can't see how nobody saw it coming anyway. During the Olympics, all you heard about were the hellish training regimens and schedules he had. Now we know how he got through it all.
mokes310 said:
The rules are there for a reason, however, I do think that we have a flawed view of Marijuana in the US. Would one of their members had recieved similar treatment if they were caught drinking underage?
Funny story. He was caught drinking underage about four years ago (and driving, no less). Nobody cares anymore, and they didn't make as big a deal about it then.
imperialwar said:
i have to laugh at Phelps. Nobody is going to take him seriously anymore after this.
Yeah i won X amount of medals and i'm doper... nice touch.
He could have milked his medals for years, now advertisers arent going to want to touch him due to the image.
Yeah, because the reputations of the last 3 Presidents have really suffered since they admitted to doing drugs.
ok. i can live that. In fact i have the perfect ad campaign " Do drugs like Phelps and become a sporting legend. Proudly bought to you by the Cannibis Association of America."
 

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Merciless.Fire said:
GreenDevilJF said:
Merciless.Fire said:
He did do something illegal, yes, but to be honest, who hasn't?

We ALL know, or should know, that millions of people do it everyday, around the world and in the US. Phelps being a world-class athlete shouldn't give him immunity, but it does attract the attention in order to get him in trouble for doing it. He being famous is the reason he got suspended, smoking pot was just the catalyst.

He may be a role model to swimmers across the globe, but smoking pot shouldn't kill the inspiration. It has NOTHING to do with his swimming capability.
I haven't done anything illegal, not that it is hard not too. I don't know if I would view a "doper" as much of a role model after finding it out.
It's a big statement saying you haven't done something against the rules even once in your lifetime. You would call Phelps a doper because he did it once that you know about? People experiment all the time, I have, but I don't do it on a regular basis.

I don't view it as a big statement, since it isn't hard. I would call anyone who did it a doper.
 

Merciless.Fire

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GreenDevilJF said:
Merciless.Fire said:
GreenDevilJF said:
Merciless.Fire said:
He did do something illegal, yes, but to be honest, who hasn't?

We ALL know, or should know, that millions of people do it everyday, around the world and in the US. Phelps being a world-class athlete shouldn't give him immunity, but it does attract the attention in order to get him in trouble for doing it. He being famous is the reason he got suspended, smoking pot was just the catalyst.

He may be a role model to swimmers across the globe, but smoking pot shouldn't kill the inspiration. It has NOTHING to do with his swimming capability.
I haven't done anything illegal, not that it is hard not too. I don't know if I would view a "doper" as much of a role model after finding it out.
It's a big statement saying you haven't done something against the rules even once in your lifetime. You would call Phelps a doper because he did it once that you know about? People experiment all the time, I have, but I don't do it on a regular basis.

I don't view it as a big statement, since it isn't hard. I would call anyone who did it a doper.
That's my point, you don't have a clue, so judging him based on no real evidence is folly. It's easy to break the rules, you just may not know you have.

Take driving. You know how when people turn right onto a two-lane road, they are supposed to turn onto immediate lane on their right, but they don't, especially if they need to be in the left lane. That's illegal, but so many people do it, it effectively isn't. Hell I've seen cops do it, it has just become a socially acceptable way of driving, even if dangerous.
 

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My only comment is:

Man, who let Phelps take a hit off their bong? Don't they know the lung capacity of an 8-time Gold Medal swimmer? You're going to be out of weed in about 20 seconds.

And as for suspending him? Yeah, they did the right thing. As did Kelloggs. Although, when he goes back and starts kicking ass again, his sponsors will be back. Money speaks louder than previous drug infractions.
 

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Merciless.Fire said:
That's my point, you don't have a clue, so judging him based on no real evidence is folly. It's easy to break the rules, you just may not know you have.

Take driving. You know how when people turn right onto a two-lane road, they are supposed to turn onto immediate lane on their right, but they don't, especially if they need to be in the left lane. That's illegal, but so many people do it, it effectively isn't. Hell I've seen cops do it, it has just become a socially acceptable way of driving, even if dangerous.

It isn't a folly if has been proven that he has taken a hit off a bong, and someone would have to be incompetent to not know if they are breaking a rule.

Its still illegal, I couldn't care less if alot of people do it.
 

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GreenDevilJF said:
Merciless.Fire said:
That's my point, you don't have a clue, so judging him based on no real evidence is folly. It's easy to break the rules, you just may not know you have.

Take driving. You know how when people turn right onto a two-lane road, they are supposed to turn onto immediate lane on their right, but they don't, especially if they need to be in the left lane. That's illegal, but so many people do it, it effectively isn't. Hell I've seen cops do it, it has just become a socially acceptable way of driving, even if dangerous.

someone would have to be incompetent to not know if they are breaking a rule.
Read my post above.

I'm talking about him being a doper. Not about him experimenting. There is a difference between curiosity of drugs and the reliance on them.
 

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Merciless.Fire said:
GreenDevilJF said:
Merciless.Fire said:
That's my point, you don't have a clue, so judging him based on no real evidence is folly. It's easy to break the rules, you just may not know you have.

Take driving. You know how when people turn right onto a two-lane road, they are supposed to turn onto immediate lane on their right, but they don't, especially if they need to be in the left lane. That's illegal, but so many people do it, it effectively isn't. Hell I've seen cops do it, it has just become a socially acceptable way of driving, even if dangerous.

someone would have to be incompetent to not know if they are breaking a rule.
Read my post above.

I'm talking about him being a doper. Not about him experimenting. There is a difference between curiosity of drugs and the reliance on them.
I would call both kinds of people a doper, doesn't matter to me how many times they did it.
 

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I think that lawful action should be taken, whoever the media and the coperate sponcers should lay off him, jesus, I mean he is human. I beg kellog's CEOs have done blow or anything along those lines. Which makes me question why is Marijuana truly that illegal, I personally think this trajedty(damn spelling) is hilarious to an extent. Because this shows that the law is like gravity....all it takes is a push.

Lol sorry for that!
 

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McClaud said:
My only comment is:

Man, who let Phelps take a hit off their bong? Don't they know the lung capacity of an 8-time Gold Medal swimmer? You're going to be out of weed in about 20 seconds.
Hahaha. That's funny.


Anyways, what's the fuss all about? Didn't Bill Clinton, two term president of the the USA smoke weed? Didn't the mayor of Washington D.C. smoke crack and then get re-elected?

Anyways, Michael, if you're out there listening...if this whole thing gets out of hand, just move to Canada. We'll make you a citizen, let you swim on our Olympic team, and pay you in B.C. grown bud.
 

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WOW @ some of the replies in this thread. Obviously the guy knows what he's doing and the fact that he is being shit on for smoking a plant is absolutely ridiculous. It's not that he should be held to a higher standard, it's that marijuana should be held to a standard different from the one it is being held to.

Clearly it has never prevented that man from achieving things. The only thing about pot that will prevent from success is the fact that getting caught with it means you're a criminal. No one can ever really tell me why that is.
 

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CaptainEgypt said:
WOW @ some of the replies in this thread. Obviously the guy knows what he's doing and the fact that he is being shit on for smoking a plant is absolutely ridiculous. It's not that he should be held to a higher standard, it's that marijuana should be held to a standard different from the one it is being held to.

Clearly it has never prevented that man from achieving things. The only thing about pot that will prevent from success is the fact that getting caught with it means you're a criminal. No one can ever really tell me why that is.
Getting caught with pot makes you a criminal because it is illegal, that is pretty straight forward.

What makes you think that marijuana should be held to a different standard.
 

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The US swim team is being an ass about this. Phelps should refuse to win any more medals.
 

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Well lets look at the facts.
1. He is an Olympic swimmer.
2. He was smoking pot.
3. He let someone take a picture of it.
I think for stupidity alone he should be suspended.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
GreenDevilJF said:
CaptainEgypt said:
WOW @ some of the replies in this thread. Obviously the guy knows what he's doing and the fact that he is being shit on for smoking a plant is absolutely ridiculous. It's not that he should be held to a higher standard, it's that marijuana should be held to a standard different from the one it is being held to.

Clearly it has never prevented that man from achieving things. The only thing about pot that will prevent from success is the fact that getting caught with it means you're a criminal. No one can ever really tell me why that is.
Getting caught with pot makes you a criminal because it is illegal, that is pretty straight forward.
No, that's a circular argument.
How so?