What game genre should only be a console or PC exclusive?
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No offense, but somehow I sincerely doubt that.Katana314 said:Crypticonic said:
Come to my house, pick up my 360 controller tied via USB to my PC, and watch as I kill you 20 consecutive times in the FPS of your choice with the classic keyboard and mouse.
Except for beat em ups and most 3rd person action games, thats better played with a controller.Novskij said:
I guess you can play FPS on a console, with enough practice but...why should i?
But still i hate Exclusive games. There are more then a few console exclusive titles i'd love to play.
Well, i won't go through all the comments, my apologies.
But none, really, there is no point in imposing limits. If that has consequence, though, is an entirely different issue. It does, fps's have changed so much post-Halo that i struggle to find one i actually like. Yet MW2's sales show that from a monetary perspective it works. Anyway, that discussion has been beaten to death already, just a little side note.
The matter of controllers is separate from the matter of platform, all platforms support keyboard and mice and controllers. For some reason, though, most developers don't bother with keyboard and mouse support for their console titles. I'd guess monetary reasons. But it still strikes me as asinine. The only advantage i can fathom is equality in online gaming: everybody has the same controller and the same machine. But even then, there are third party controller developers, even for mice as a replacement to the right analog stick (fragfx, fragenstein, etc).
In my opinion though, keyboard and mouse supplant controllers in almost every genre, except for sports titles (an i mean sports as a generalized term, including motor sports, fighting, etc.). Yes, even 3rd person games, as long as the mouse is used for camera control, and no, controllers are no match for camera control in any way whatsoever, despite what claims can be made contradicting this. But yes, where this is more prevalent is in RTS's, FPS's, and following close behind, RPG's.
But none, really, there is no point in imposing limits. If that has consequence, though, is an entirely different issue. It does, fps's have changed so much post-Halo that i struggle to find one i actually like. Yet MW2's sales show that from a monetary perspective it works. Anyway, that discussion has been beaten to death already, just a little side note.
The matter of controllers is separate from the matter of platform, all platforms support keyboard and mice and controllers. For some reason, though, most developers don't bother with keyboard and mouse support for their console titles. I'd guess monetary reasons. But it still strikes me as asinine. The only advantage i can fathom is equality in online gaming: everybody has the same controller and the same machine. But even then, there are third party controller developers, even for mice as a replacement to the right analog stick (fragfx, fragenstein, etc).
In my opinion though, keyboard and mouse supplant controllers in almost every genre, except for sports titles (an i mean sports as a generalized term, including motor sports, fighting, etc.). Yes, even 3rd person games, as long as the mouse is used for camera control, and no, controllers are no match for camera control in any way whatsoever, despite what claims can be made contradicting this. But yes, where this is more prevalent is in RTS's, FPS's, and following close behind, RPG's.
thats probably because they are major pc elitists, which i have a few friends that way and anytime they have come over to play on console they get fucking obliterated by me or anyone who actually isn't bad at a controller (my 9 year old bothers beat them), in which their elitism rises even more in callin the controller bad, and then ill play with them online on l4d2 or something and they'll sit their sayin how bad a controller is compared to this when they get like 2 more kills than me if that, while the pc has more jagged accurate movements, the controller calls up smooth and an easier learning curve imoDark Templar said:
What? FPS's are vastly preferred on the PC by most. The main reason they're more popular on consoles is the cost of a gaming PC. Console FPS's have auto-aim, which kind of takes out a lot of the fun for me. It's like playing a fighting game where you hit one button to pull off an entire combo.Crypticonic said:
As far as strafing goes, 360-degree movement really isn't that valuable; I've never encountered a situation where it would have been helpful to be able to move 30 degrees below the horizontal while locking my camera in a fixed position.
Umm, excuse me?Scrumpmonkey said:
CoD fas?
Also, FYI, not everyone has an arcade stick so I was referring to basic keyboard controls which do not suit the fighting genre in general.
Because if you include the joystick for PC argument, the whole thread becomes sort of pointless.
I think an RTS could be done on a console, but I have no idea how. Probably best that they stay on the PC. Other than that, my only other opinion on the subject is FPS. I can't understand how ANYONE plays those things on a PC. It just doesn't work for me and it just seems...wrong.
Everything else works just fine on either one.
Everything else works just fine on either one.
As others have already said I think that RTS games generally work much better on PC's than consoles purely based on controller issues. Still though, I'm sure others like them on consoles so I wouldn't say that no console RTS games should exist.
Well, none of them. They pretty much all work on both (except RTS's). Although, FPS's do work much better with a mouse and keyboard, no doubt about that.
Umm, elitist much?Scrumpmonkey said:
So, let me get this straight? You go up against me after I express the opinion that SF4 shouldn't be on PC and after I explain that I mostly meant that it shouldn't be played with a keyboard... after which you tell me that you can connect any joystick to a PC (never denied that, did I?) and try to downplay me as some sort of console-only gamer.
Alright, I'll play along. Talk to me when PC becomes cheap and more user-friendly.
I'll try to clarify, as an SF4 PC owner.
SF4 is no worse on the PC as long as you have a controller; framerate and precision play is fine. It is also equally good on the consoles. Thus, it's pretty much expectable most fans would buy it there (having been console players for a while), but there's no point knocking either version.
SF4 is no worse on the PC as long as you have a controller; framerate and precision play is fine. It is also equally good on the consoles. Thus, it's pretty much expectable most fans would buy it there (having been console players for a while), but there's no point knocking either version.