Indeed. GTA4's selling point is that you can drive your idiot friends out to see a movie or go bowling. We want to blow up our friends and take their money, not treat them to a night out.VitalSigns said:
What Games Do You Think Are Over Rated?
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7 - goodAtticusSP said:
8 - the characters where too moody for me to like them
9 - was great
10 - i just couldn't like it =[
10 -2 - i stopped liking final fantasy games after that....='[
FF7 - Game people quote when they want to seem like gaming experts
FF8- amazing battle system, annoying characters
FF9 - Best of the Series
FF 10- Horrible voice casting (Tidus's voice is atrocious)
FF 10 pt 2 - Not even sure why this happened (Charlies Angels of FF)
FF 11 - Good idea but shouldn't have used the FF name
FF 12- Under appreciated game, actually very good.
FF8- amazing battle system, annoying characters
FF9 - Best of the Series
FF 10- Horrible voice casting (Tidus's voice is atrocious)
FF 10 pt 2 - Not even sure why this happened (Charlies Angels of FF)
FF 11 - Good idea but shouldn't have used the FF name
FF 12- Under appreciated game, actually very good.
Wat?! You don't like Halo?! You must be a real special person because everyone here praises Halo and... wait, never mind. You are just like everyone else here.The Carrion said:
'Halo is generic, boring, blah, blah, blah.'
Lets hear you guys say something positive for once eh?
I like any game that is a fun experience. Including Halo 3 and GTA 4.
Shocking I know.
In my Opinion, Final Fantasy 10 would have been better if the main character was Wakka. The love interest was Wakka. All the other party members are Wakka. The main villains are also Wakka. Everyone in the entire game is Wakka. The battle system would be replaced with Blitzball. 10-2 wouldn't be made. Perfect game.sorry user name taken. said:
Yes, you heard correctly.Shapsters said:
No, I don't like Halo.
No, I'm not special.
Yes, I'm aware of the feelings of people here about the series.
Something positive?
This thread is all about pointing out which games we think aren't as good as people make them out to be. Saying positive things about games we like would be missing the point.
I don't think the term overrated is a valid criticism of a game. If anything, it's a criticism of the criticism. If you disliked a game or had certain expectations going in, that's not really the game's fault (unless it's hyped to crap by the developer, Fable I/II generally deserve the term). You can say Assassin's Creed is a repetitive, content-less, frustrating piece of shit and I would agree with you because it is, but to call it overrated doesn't make sense.
And I responded in kind.VitalSigns said:you just politely got called an idiotThe Carrion said:
I guess I'll post my anti-halo sentiment along with everyone else on the forum who sees this thread. Halo really brought nothing new to the FPS genre... in fact not only did it not bring anything new but it borrowed heavily from past games, all of which had done whatever aspect was borrowed better in the past. The only reason it enjoys such popularity, and I think someone already said it earlier in the thread, was because it was really the only game on the original Xbox worth owning the system for, and mostly only because of its multiplayer. People act like it was the first game to incorporate a multiplayer.
Halo wasn't a bad game, it was just overrated. It didn't bring anything new to the genre and it got praised as if it were the savior of FPS games by people who had never played any other FPS game in their lives, and I think that's where alot of the animosity against halo comes from. There are other games out there that did it first and did it better, yet somehow Halo gets all the glory because it was the first FPS for an entire generation of gamers. That's like someone who's never played a platformer in their life playing Little Big Planet and claiming LBP as the best platformer ever made end of story.
Halo wasn't a bad game, it was just overrated. It didn't bring anything new to the genre and it got praised as if it were the savior of FPS games by people who had never played any other FPS game in their lives, and I think that's where alot of the animosity against halo comes from. There are other games out there that did it first and did it better, yet somehow Halo gets all the glory because it was the first FPS for an entire generation of gamers. That's like someone who's never played a platformer in their life playing Little Big Planet and claiming LBP as the best platformer ever made end of story.
Halo 3 - I'm tired of how fanboys keep saying its the best thing EVAR when its just an average FPS. No matter how much I tried I just couldn't get into the game.
Little Big Planet - GOD I hate this game! this is the gameplay: Jump, Jump, Jump, Grab, Jump, Jump, Avoid, Jump, Jump, Win. There's little to no challenge at all! My reaction to it was, "This is supposed to be fun?!"
Gears of War - sure, the gameplay is nice, sure the cover system is good and sure its overall a very good game... NOW CAN YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A FEW MINUTES?!
Crysis, seriously - this game is just another average shooter. Once you get past the awesome graphics its just bland with quite a few glitches mixed in. The multiplayer isn't that good either. No TDM at launch? WTH?
Final Fantasy series - I mean come on! How many "final fantasys" can there be anyway? If its up to 13 its not really final now is it? Sure its a good series now can you END IT ALREADY?!
Call of Duty: World at War - world war 2 had been milked from that now its gone sour. The game is full of glitches, bugs and connection issues that Treyarch refuses to acknowledge. The only reason why its not in the garbage now is because of the zombie mode.
Metal Gear Solid 4 - With Metal Gear Solid 4 comes the same old LONG boring unskippable cutscenes which piss me off immensely. At least games like Final Fantasy try to make the cutscenes awesome and not draggy like in MGS4. And the metal gear series is supposed to have stealthing in it and have tense shootouts, not a tranq gun with unlimited ammo and certainly not a solar gun that never runs out of ammo while in daylight and is overpowered!
Resident Evil 5 - This game bombed BIG TIME. Your partner Sheva keeps wasting meds and ammo and shoots you instead of the zombies, and she barely shoots the zombies at all! And why does she keep using her pistol if i give her a shotgun? And why is the inventory shitty again??? What happened to "If its not broken, don't bloody TOUCH IT!" the inventory from RE4 was good so why change the bloody thing? And why is it you have to stand still when shooting and knifing? Is the main character such a bad shot he has to stand still? And who's "bright" idea was it to add in a multiplayer function when you can only shoot when standing still? Kinda makes you a target doesn't it?
I'm done ranting now.
Little Big Planet - GOD I hate this game! this is the gameplay: Jump, Jump, Jump, Grab, Jump, Jump, Avoid, Jump, Jump, Win. There's little to no challenge at all! My reaction to it was, "This is supposed to be fun?!"
Gears of War - sure, the gameplay is nice, sure the cover system is good and sure its overall a very good game... NOW CAN YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A FEW MINUTES?!
Crysis, seriously - this game is just another average shooter. Once you get past the awesome graphics its just bland with quite a few glitches mixed in. The multiplayer isn't that good either. No TDM at launch? WTH?
Final Fantasy series - I mean come on! How many "final fantasys" can there be anyway? If its up to 13 its not really final now is it? Sure its a good series now can you END IT ALREADY?!
Call of Duty: World at War - world war 2 had been milked from that now its gone sour. The game is full of glitches, bugs and connection issues that Treyarch refuses to acknowledge. The only reason why its not in the garbage now is because of the zombie mode.
Metal Gear Solid 4 - With Metal Gear Solid 4 comes the same old LONG boring unskippable cutscenes which piss me off immensely. At least games like Final Fantasy try to make the cutscenes awesome and not draggy like in MGS4. And the metal gear series is supposed to have stealthing in it and have tense shootouts, not a tranq gun with unlimited ammo and certainly not a solar gun that never runs out of ammo while in daylight and is overpowered!
Resident Evil 5 - This game bombed BIG TIME. Your partner Sheva keeps wasting meds and ammo and shoots you instead of the zombies, and she barely shoots the zombies at all! And why does she keep using her pistol if i give her a shotgun? And why is the inventory shitty again??? What happened to "If its not broken, don't bloody TOUCH IT!" the inventory from RE4 was good so why change the bloody thing? And why is it you have to stand still when shooting and knifing? Is the main character such a bad shot he has to stand still? And who's "bright" idea was it to add in a multiplayer function when you can only shoot when standing still? Kinda makes you a target doesn't it?
I'm done ranting now.
Okay, first of all, I'm going to say any game that has enjoyed a fair amount of hype is overrated, including the post-hype of games like Psychonauts. Only a very few games live up to their reputations verbatim.
Also, I hope everyone saying "Halo" has at least completed the game they are claiming is overrated. If they have, I'll accept that their personal experience with the game was different from mine, and that's fine. They're entitled to their opinion provided they didn't lift it straight from Yahtzee.
But I should state where I am coming from with regard to the Halo series. Now, I didn't play the series until very recently, and before that I was always kind of an anti-Halo fanboy, hating the effect the games have had on FPS titles in general (turns out the shoddy wannabe Halos just never captured what made the series fun). Suffice it to say, I played Halo 1 and 2 and found them fun. And, since that's really all that matters at the end of the day to me, I've completely reversed my position on the games (not counting Halo 3, which is supposedly the worst Halo game.)
Oh, and I've really only played the Campaign modes, and I still find it wicked fun, so can everyone stop saying Halo is only decent in multiplayer? The difficulty is inconsistent and the later levels in Halo: CE are largely crap, but that doesn't detract from the amazing first 3/4 of Halo: CE. And while the difficulty curve is even more messed up in Halo 2, I found that game quite enjoyable as well, particularly all the exploration of the Covenant society/beliefs. The Halo vehicle sections have always been WELL above par for the genre, both games hold up EXTREMELY well today (particularly the AI of Halo: CE), and the weapons are all fairly balanced and useful.
Bottom line: The Halo series were NOT the first FPS games I played by far, I only recently picked up an Xbox and have never been a fan of Microsoft, and the Halo games are not the best games on the system (or the reason to own a system) by a long stretch. I have no problem with folks disliking the individual games or the series so long as they have played the games for a decent amount of time and have specific gripes or complaints. The Halo series isn't perfect by a fair margin, but I don't think any of the games can be called downright horrible or unplayable. Just my thoughts on a game series that has become somewhat of a punching bag around here.
As for what games I think are overrated, I'm gonna go ahead and say most of the newer Final Fantasy titles. FF12 in particular I really wanted to like, but it was tedious and grindy and the combat engine felt like a stripped-down, slowed down Vagrant Story or Rogue Galaxy. I didn't care for FF8 at all, and most of the post-FF7 Fantasies in general have an ascetic about them that just repulses me for some reason. The awesome steampunk FF6 art seems to have been replaced by metrosexuals swinging lightsabers on top of cathedrals (not that the gameplay necessarily reflects that.) I'm not saying that FF as a series is bad, but I just don't care for it anymore. The FF I loved in Tactics and FF6 is gone for good. At least Square had the decency to remake both games (and Chrono Trigger! Woot!).
Oh, and apologies for wall of text.
Also, I hope everyone saying "Halo" has at least completed the game they are claiming is overrated. If they have, I'll accept that their personal experience with the game was different from mine, and that's fine. They're entitled to their opinion provided they didn't lift it straight from Yahtzee.
But I should state where I am coming from with regard to the Halo series. Now, I didn't play the series until very recently, and before that I was always kind of an anti-Halo fanboy, hating the effect the games have had on FPS titles in general (turns out the shoddy wannabe Halos just never captured what made the series fun). Suffice it to say, I played Halo 1 and 2 and found them fun. And, since that's really all that matters at the end of the day to me, I've completely reversed my position on the games (not counting Halo 3, which is supposedly the worst Halo game.)
Oh, and I've really only played the Campaign modes, and I still find it wicked fun, so can everyone stop saying Halo is only decent in multiplayer? The difficulty is inconsistent and the later levels in Halo: CE are largely crap, but that doesn't detract from the amazing first 3/4 of Halo: CE. And while the difficulty curve is even more messed up in Halo 2, I found that game quite enjoyable as well, particularly all the exploration of the Covenant society/beliefs. The Halo vehicle sections have always been WELL above par for the genre, both games hold up EXTREMELY well today (particularly the AI of Halo: CE), and the weapons are all fairly balanced and useful.
Bottom line: The Halo series were NOT the first FPS games I played by far, I only recently picked up an Xbox and have never been a fan of Microsoft, and the Halo games are not the best games on the system (or the reason to own a system) by a long stretch. I have no problem with folks disliking the individual games or the series so long as they have played the games for a decent amount of time and have specific gripes or complaints. The Halo series isn't perfect by a fair margin, but I don't think any of the games can be called downright horrible or unplayable. Just my thoughts on a game series that has become somewhat of a punching bag around here.
As for what games I think are overrated, I'm gonna go ahead and say most of the newer Final Fantasy titles. FF12 in particular I really wanted to like, but it was tedious and grindy and the combat engine felt like a stripped-down, slowed down Vagrant Story or Rogue Galaxy. I didn't care for FF8 at all, and most of the post-FF7 Fantasies in general have an ascetic about them that just repulses me for some reason. The awesome steampunk FF6 art seems to have been replaced by metrosexuals swinging lightsabers on top of cathedrals (not that the gameplay necessarily reflects that.) I'm not saying that FF as a series is bad, but I just don't care for it anymore. The FF I loved in Tactics and FF6 is gone for good. At least Square had the decency to remake both games (and Chrono Trigger! Woot!).
Oh, and apologies for wall of text.
Halo 3.
*ducks*
I dont get the love for COD 1 2 and 3 either, or medal of honour back when it was mean tto be great.
*ducks*
I dont get the love for COD 1 2 and 3 either, or medal of honour back when it was mean tto be great.
Oblivion, it was terribly boring and not a very good role-playing game, lot of flaws were ignored by the early reviews.
AssCreed, it was just repetitive and boring, great potential and great graphics tho.
Gears Of War, I actually like this game, playing it even now, but the amount of hype it got was a bit too much, it wasn't THAT special.
AssCreed, it was just repetitive and boring, great potential and great graphics tho.
Gears Of War, I actually like this game, playing it even now, but the amount of hype it got was a bit too much, it wasn't THAT special.
Fallout3: I'm one of those crazies who liked the first two games, gameplay issues and all. The third one felt very repetitive and monotonous. The VATS system was implemented well, but I'm not really an FPS fan. I play Fallout for setting, story, and characters. And while the game looked good initially, it never changed. Everything was grey and blown to bits. The characters were wooden and unlikeable (yes, some of them were supposed to be that way, but some were not), and the dialogue system was pretty bad. If you're going to have fully spoken dialogue, go the route of Mass Effect, not Fallout 3. And the storyline...intriguing at first, until it ends. Then it's horrible. All in all, I bought the game and promptly resold it because of how bad it was.
Oblivion: Ah, Bethesda. You are full of disappointments lately. Maybe this is just me complaining about how much I liked the earlier game better, but Morrowind was great. I think the dev team made a mistake in having your enemies level up with you (the best parts in Morrowind were returning to that cave you nearly died in early in the game once you'd reached level 30 and kicking some Daedric ass). They also stripped the world of its diversity. Forget the sameness of the landscape, the different races all behaved the same when in Morrowind they had their own cultures and beliefs, creating inherent conflict. Yeah, I hated this game with a passion and now think perhaps the Elder Scrolls series should be allowed to rest in peace.
Halo: Again, not an FPS fan, so maybe I shouldn't be the final judge. But I had other non-FPS fans tell me the game was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not so much for me. The story is just a rehash of older, better-executed SF books, and the characters seemed wooden and flat. Again, the game looks good, but I don't go for looks alone.
Oblivion: Ah, Bethesda. You are full of disappointments lately. Maybe this is just me complaining about how much I liked the earlier game better, but Morrowind was great. I think the dev team made a mistake in having your enemies level up with you (the best parts in Morrowind were returning to that cave you nearly died in early in the game once you'd reached level 30 and kicking some Daedric ass). They also stripped the world of its diversity. Forget the sameness of the landscape, the different races all behaved the same when in Morrowind they had their own cultures and beliefs, creating inherent conflict. Yeah, I hated this game with a passion and now think perhaps the Elder Scrolls series should be allowed to rest in peace.
Halo: Again, not an FPS fan, so maybe I shouldn't be the final judge. But I had other non-FPS fans tell me the game was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not so much for me. The story is just a rehash of older, better-executed SF books, and the characters seemed wooden and flat. Again, the game looks good, but I don't go for looks alone.