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Ment tutorial.
Demon's Souls provides a barebones one, King's Field kills you if you take your first step in the wrong direction already.
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Ment tutorial.
Demon's Souls provides a barebones one, King's Field kills you if you take your first step in the wrong direction already.
Wouldn't that be something? An actual RTS game, not a Zerg-filled, key-spamming contest. Don't get me wrong, I liked Starcraft 2, but Starcraft is too fast paced. A proper Empire Earth game, with shiny modern graphics, no sector-capturing, and a 5 nuclear bomber limit would really hit the spot.gmaverick019 said:
The closest we've had recently has been the Age of Empires 2 expansion that came out of left field.
Given how popular retro gaming is with indie devs, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that an indie studio might decide to make a Final Fight/Streets of Rage inspired beat 'em up. I'd back such a Kickstarter project if it came up.BaldursGateTemple said:
I don't know what to call them. Turn-based Strategy, I guess. We've got X-com but I want variety in a genre that had titles like Gladius, Final Fantasy Tactics and Front Mission all at the same time. Maybe I should just get a gameboy but it'd be nice to have these on PC.
You may want to check out Marlow Briggs and the Mask of Death. I never played GoW so I don't know if Marlow Briggs could be called a clone of that but it's definitely its own thing and super fun. Can't hurt to try it for 5 bucks for an AA game.CoCage said:
Old school tactical shooters like Rainbow Six, where there was actually this whole preplanning phase, picking your team members, etc.
I also suppose shooters with an offline bot mode with decent bots. Haven't had one of those in ages since everything is multiplayer right now or just has a story mode rather than something like what the old battlefield games had.
I also suppose shooters with an offline bot mode with decent bots. Haven't had one of those in ages since everything is multiplayer right now or just has a story mode rather than something like what the old battlefield games had.
I'd like the tactical semi-turn based control of the original Jagged Aliance games, in a nWoD Hunter universe setting. That would be badass. Either that or Werewolf 2E games done with a Jagged Alliance style map and turn based system.
I really loved the original JA 2 feel. Create your own CIA avatar any way you want, exert control over a territory, etc. I feel as though the same mechanics and style would be suited to a HUnter or Werewolf style of setting. Manage the herd, claim first changers more efficiently to grow the pack, secretly fund Shadow-influencing flesh side structures, stay on 'good' terms with benign spirits, while hunting down transgressors ... dual world mechanic.
I would dig it.
I could also see a similar thing with Hunter. Creating safehouses, making contacts, building armories, growing your influence that various hunters in your cell get recruited by Tier 2 and 3 organizations, build up your economic base, reign in supernatural threats trying to kill members of your cell. I mean, that Hunter idea could have a self-balancing mechanic ... various members might be abducted/turned against their own without your knowledge. So when various missions come up against some 400 year old vampire, you 're betrayed and suddenly want seemed like a doable hunt with a team of hunters with all the right gear and teamwork strategies, suddenly becomes a massacre.
Whole lot of potential.
But that semi-turnbased territory control type of game that was perfectly combined into a single product that was Jagged Alliance 2 hasn't really been repeated ... and it's a shame. So much stuff you could do with a game like that.
Hell ... I'd fork out the money for a HD remastered JA:2 with expanded territory addons and more merc options as long as they kept all the same type of feel. BiA is a good game but only when you look at it as its own product. IT is but a shadow to the glory that was JA:2. Creating a dual pistol wielding CIA operative with a bajillion action points by the mid game was a joy to experience. Why, oh why, they removed the create-a-character in BiA I will never know.
I really loved the original JA 2 feel. Create your own CIA avatar any way you want, exert control over a territory, etc. I feel as though the same mechanics and style would be suited to a HUnter or Werewolf style of setting. Manage the herd, claim first changers more efficiently to grow the pack, secretly fund Shadow-influencing flesh side structures, stay on 'good' terms with benign spirits, while hunting down transgressors ... dual world mechanic.
I would dig it.
I could also see a similar thing with Hunter. Creating safehouses, making contacts, building armories, growing your influence that various hunters in your cell get recruited by Tier 2 and 3 organizations, build up your economic base, reign in supernatural threats trying to kill members of your cell. I mean, that Hunter idea could have a self-balancing mechanic ... various members might be abducted/turned against their own without your knowledge. So when various missions come up against some 400 year old vampire, you 're betrayed and suddenly want seemed like a doable hunt with a team of hunters with all the right gear and teamwork strategies, suddenly becomes a massacre.
Whole lot of potential.
But that semi-turnbased territory control type of game that was perfectly combined into a single product that was Jagged Alliance 2 hasn't really been repeated ... and it's a shame. So much stuff you could do with a game like that.
Hell ... I'd fork out the money for a HD remastered JA:2 with expanded territory addons and more merc options as long as they kept all the same type of feel. BiA is a good game but only when you look at it as its own product. IT is but a shadow to the glory that was JA:2. Creating a dual pistol wielding CIA operative with a bajillion action points by the mid game was a joy to experience. Why, oh why, they removed the create-a-character in BiA I will never know.
There's so many places to go for "revivals" of "dead" genres and so many games trying to "bring it back" that really nothing is actually dead anymore. Maybe I'd like to see a vehicular combat game again. Not as a part of a larger sandbox game (Rage, Mad Max, etc...) but just a good Twisted Metal again. Or even better, Vigilante 8. Or even better, Rogue Trip.
Thanks for the recomendation. I was bizarely enough looking at Godhand a few weeks back, so will give it a gander. I play PC games, but my PC is very old and so I only play games such as Undertale, the original Xcom, Technobabylon etc. So if there are any more Conan-type beat em ups you can think of I'd love to hear about them. I own a 360 currently, but will be buying a PS4 this year too.CoCage said:
I'd not even realized they'd updated DD either!
BaldursGateTemple said:Me too. I was gutted that the Kung Fury game was so pants. There was a real opportunity there to capture the 80's/90's magic which that film does, and give us a Final Fight/Double Dragon clone.Bilious Green said:
I look at how butchered the Final Fight universe has become with all the SF games, and it really is crying out for just an old-fashioned "good guys vs bad guys", simple, "walk across town and beat everyone up on the way" game.
That's why I love the Warriors so much. It takes all those elements, but gives it a freshness by detaching it from previously used lore in other games (I also think how they extend the original warriors backstory is brilliant).
More please!
I agree with the old 3D platformers. I miss them so much, their lighthearted, but challenging gameplay and cute, colorful worlds and characters.
Kung Fury I wasn't that surprised with since it was just a clone One Finger Death Punch with an "retro 80s" coat of paint. The videos promoting the game were entertaining, but everything else is mediocre and lazy.Danbo Jambo said:
I played a demo and seen most of a playthrough on YouTube, and Marlow plays like God of War for the XBOX 360. As a random poster pointed out, it's God of War with some random dude. While the game sadly did not hold my interest, I'm glad the game has a lead black character that is not a racial or cultural stereotype. I'm black so that is actually bonus points for me. If it's five bucks on XBLA, I might give it a go and plug in my 360. Thanks for the info SecondPrize.SecondPrize said:
It's funny, no idea if it's true or not, but I heard that "Freespace 2" was one of the big reasons the space-sim genre died out. Apparently it was so good that other developers were like "yep, no way we can compete with that, not even gonna try".
FS2 is a good choice. Hopefully Star Citizen will revitalise the space combat sim genre, if it every gets released that is.
The Action-strategy genre (Battlezone I & II, Hostile Waters) has pretty much died out. These games were a cross between FPS and strategy games. Allowing you to create buildings, gather resources, order units and command large armies all in first person (sometimes with the help of a satellite view in the case of Hostile Waters)
I know Battlezone is being remastered but it would be good if the genre got a revival.
FS2 is a good choice. Hopefully Star Citizen will revitalise the space combat sim genre, if it every gets released that is.
The Action-strategy genre (Battlezone I & II, Hostile Waters) has pretty much died out. These games were a cross between FPS and strategy games. Allowing you to create buildings, gather resources, order units and command large armies all in first person (sometimes with the help of a satellite view in the case of Hostile Waters)
I know Battlezone is being remastered but it would be good if the genre got a revival.
Can AAA platformer/adventure games with a very cartoon aesthetic come back? So many interesting things came out of that era.
Now it's just Nintendo and indie games. Along with the oddball Sony and Microsoft IP.
Now it's just Nintendo and indie games. Along with the oddball Sony and Microsoft IP.
There's the Ratchet and Clank remake. If and when that succeeds you might get your wish on Sony's console at least. I never cared for the series, but I hope the remake does well and sends a message that there is a market for games of this genre.Dragonbums said:
It's a pity that most of these god games came from Peter Molyneux back when he actually made good stuff. I'd really like another Populous: The Beginning. But he's lost his touch. When you look at Godus . . actually don't look at Godus. What is seen cannot be unseen.Phasmal said:
Bioware won't touch them. They're focusing on action rpgs as they have a larger audience. But lately we have a few games in this style (not dungeons and dragons though).Saelune said:
Divinity Original Sin
Pillars of Eternity
Wasteland 2
and the soon to be release Torment:Tides of Numenera
I'll also point that Chris Avellone, who wrote Baldurs Gate 2 and Planescape Torment, is writing the new Torment and did some work on Pillars of Eternity.
I may check out some of those, but the new "Torment" game leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I wish they would remove the Torment part since its a lie. Its like making a game inspired by Zelda and calling it Ocarina of Time: Not Zelda.spartandude said:
I actually really miss the original Warcraft style RTS. Also turn based ones, like Chaos Gate, were always amazing. Good choice.AccursedTheory said:
All the guys from old Bioware who made their classic RPGs are long gone, and have been replaced with less talented people who care more about visual flashiness over depth of mechanics and substance of plot. One need only look at the difference between Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2 (and even moreso with Inquisition) to see the difference in priorities. I highly doubt we will ever see a deep PC centric RPG from Bioware again, they have gone full console retard. Much like the stealth and survival horror genres, non-action RPGs have been declared dead by the AAA publishers. The future of hardcore PC CRPGs is with companies like Obsidian, Larian, and indie devs.spartandude said: