What happened to cartoons?
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You've got to be kidding. For a show of Samurai Jack's quality (and with its huge rewatch value), $60 is a bargain.Abedeus said:
You're not entitled to TV shows. It takes a lot of money to produce something like Samurai Jack, and if self-professed "fans" won't support it with anything more than lip service, then we'll never see the end of the story.
Okay, I know Samurai Jack is awesome (I've watched at least 2 first seasons, only they were aired on Polish Cartoon Network, at least 2 times each or more), but $60 is a lot for me. Example.aniki21 said:
$50 is a normal price for a game in US. For us, that's almost 165 PLN. That's 65 PLN more than a normal, average-priced game (35 PLN more than EA games or Dawn of War 2). I think you can see this is a pretty big difference.
Not to mention, shipping to Poland costs a lot.
Well, I see it this way.aniki21 said:
They don't want me to buy it. If they did, they would... *checks Empik, one of the best if not THE best shop for imported things* yeah, they would at least ship to few shops in my country, so we could buy it.
Also, I do not trust either the international post office OR Polish post office. For example, I ordered a Nintendo DS on April 1st. And I got it YESTERDAY. Two weeks? For a 140km away package? And they expect me to pay for that? Holy crap.
It would take at least 2-3 months before I would get it and I would long forget that I ordered it. And I do not trust Amazon, because if ANYTHING happened (scratched DVDs, missing box, anything), I have nobody to complain about it.
Do you have any idea how this stuff works? It's not up to Cartoon Network to ship DVDs to any and every store in the world with a DVD rack in it; it's up to the stores to order merchandise that they think will sell. It's not CN's fault that your local DVD shop has none in stock - it's the store's fault.Abedeus said:
You'd have had a slightly stronger argument if you'd have pointed out that it's not available with the applicable region coding for Poland (which I assume is R2 like the rest of Europe?), but given how cheap region-free DVD players are (and the fact that PC drives can easily be unlocked with cheap or even free software), that's a weak argument at best.
As for the "not trusting the post office" thing, I suppose there's not much argument I can do against that, having had no experience of the Polish service. But I've had plenty of experience with slow internatonal shipping, missing packages and broken merchandise, and it wouldn't stop me from ordering a legitimate release of a TV show that I enjoy.
You say I have no idea how "this stuff works", yet you too assume I've only checked in a local DvD shop (we have none of those - no shops selling only DVDs) for it. No. I checked in Empik's main webside. It shows if there is an item in ANY of the shops in the whole Poland.aniki21 said:
Oh, right, region coding? Like I'm going to buy ANOTHER DVD player (laptop, DivX player, XviD player, 2 DVD drives in PC). Money doesn't grow on trees.
And I def. will never order anything above 100 PLN and have it transported by the Polish post office. Only private couriers.
Regardless of how many physical stores you checked, my point still stands: if there aren't any copies of a DVD in a given store, it's the fault of that store, not the production company. The store has to order in the stock they think will sell; the distributor would waste a fortune if they were to ship every release they manage out to every store in the world, and then have to ship it all back when next to nobody buys them.Abedeus said:
Well, like I said - you can unlock one of those PC drives for next to nothing, if not entirely for free.Abedeus said:
I'm pretty sure Amazon offer private courier services - but they're awfully expensive, and you seem to be very reluctant to spend any cash - especially if you're going to make sure everything over £20 is going to be couriered. You'd be spending more on the shipping than the item, in most cases.
Frankly, I've had a much harder time getting stuff shipped by couriers than I ever have with the Royal Mail or the USPS.
Okay, I agree with it that unlocking a PC DVD is easy (although this means I can't watch it on my TV...) and it's store's fault for not having the DVDs.aniki21 said:
But I am not going to pirate it. I'll try at local MediaMarkt, seeing as they might have more DVDs than Empik.
The decline of metal and hard rock in the main stream. Think about it, Skeleton Warriors had a frickin' sweet intro consisting of an aweosme riff and the occasional vocals being layered up to add to the epicness. Thunder cats was a similar principle. Hell, just look at how power rangers has gone down hill and you'll see it isn't just cartoons. Mighty Morphin's Power Chords eventully degenerated into... I'm not sure what to call the new stuff, but it makes channel flicking a far more dangerous thing to do.
I so badly miss those old cartoon days.
Rocko's Modern Life
Ren & Stimpy
TMNT *Favorite*
Animaniacs
Freakazoid *Favorite*
Beetlejuice *Favorite*
Duck Tails
Tail Spin
Darkwing Duck
Cow & Chicken
Tiny Toon Adventures
Marsupilami (bet you forgot about that one eh?)
the super mario brothers show with the occasional Zelda cartoon (i know, its cheesy. but it had its charm)
But at least be happy in the prospect that it was our generation that got to witness it. much like the video game revolution.
Rocko's Modern Life
Ren & Stimpy
TMNT *Favorite*
Animaniacs
Freakazoid *Favorite*
Beetlejuice *Favorite*
Duck Tails
Tail Spin
Darkwing Duck
Cow & Chicken
Tiny Toon Adventures
Marsupilami (bet you forgot about that one eh?)
the super mario brothers show with the occasional Zelda cartoon (i know, its cheesy. but it had its charm)
But at least be happy in the prospect that it was our generation that got to witness it. much like the video game revolution.
Flash technology killed cartoons...
Nowadays anyone can do a cartoon, it doesnt take any sort of an effort nor talent, therefore they spam the networks with crappy cheap ones that dont even have a point to it all except for aiding the massacre of braincells in our kids.
Back in the day (80s/90s) they were well written, well painted and they took effort, and they put alot of love into them, they were awesome back then.
I cant say how happy i am to have grown up with good cartoons like Ducktales, Transformers, Turtles etc... instead of the crap that's on tv these days.
Nowadays anyone can do a cartoon, it doesnt take any sort of an effort nor talent, therefore they spam the networks with crappy cheap ones that dont even have a point to it all except for aiding the massacre of braincells in our kids.
Back in the day (80s/90s) they were well written, well painted and they took effort, and they put alot of love into them, they were awesome back then.
I cant say how happy i am to have grown up with good cartoons like Ducktales, Transformers, Turtles etc... instead of the crap that's on tv these days.
Music does not require melody. Rhythmic variations on drums do not generally have a melody, but would be considered music (at least by me). Rap is music. It's just crappy music (most of the time).PatientGrasshopper said: