What happened to maturity?

[RavingPenguin]

You're asking for maturity from an age group that generally isn't very mature. This is nothing new.

The guy on the bus, I believe was stated to be in his mid-30's. Calling someone "gay" and laughing at someone tripping is highly immature for that age group.

So wait, where did this happen?

The use of the word kid to describe the person who tripped made me assume this occurred on a school bus. Why would a thirty year old be on a school bus, other than the driver?

OP stated it happened on a public transit bus, I believe.

 

[InvisibleSeal]

Isnt being courteous (sp?) part of maturity?, And to yeah helping people out apologizing for misdeeds and the like thats courtesy, maturity is not laughing at something like that, and not insulting someone for DOING THE RIGHT THING, it just grinds me that all the people I see are, well, dicks

I think I understand what you mean - I suppose when your growing up your parents are always going on about how when they were younger they were more mature / polite etc etc... my Mum's always going on about that.

Maybe because we are brought up to believe we should be more mature, and we have quite high standards about what kind of person we should be, we consider other people to think the same way. Part of it could be peer pressure, because most people are intimidated by those who are mean (even if they are a minority) and therefore don't do the right thing because they think they will be ridiculed, as you were. Then again, if said that way, it sounds like a problem with society in general, and I don't think it is.

In my 6th form, there are a lot of jerks, and it's really hard to not laugh if everyone else is, but there are always people who go against it, and sometimes, like when I got annoyed at this guy cos he was laughing at this really quiet guy when he got a bad mark in his test, you get made fun of. In my opinion, though, its the people who stand up for others who are more respected in older life (unless this is me being stupidly optimistic).

EDIT: just realised was on public bus, sorry about that - I'd just ignore them to be honest.

 

[Internet Kraken]

You're asking for maturity from an age group that generally isn't very mature. This is nothing new.

The guy on the bus, I believe was stated to be in his mid-30's. Calling someone "gay" and laughing at someone tripping is highly immature for that age group.

So wait, where did this happen?

The use of the word kid to describe the person who tripped made me assume this occurred on a school bus. Why would a thirty year old be on a school bus, other than the driver?

OP stated it happened on a public transit bus, I believe.

Then it was just an idiot. Society always had it's fair share of idiots.

Also I think him trying to stop the fight later on was just stupid. It sounds like the idiot that was about to be pulverized started the whole thing. If that kid was being an idiotic dick then I can understand why everyone would want to see him beaten to a pulp. Then he suddenly steps in and tries to be a vigilante by stopping the whole thing. I can understand why people would get pissed off by that.

Also people being immature and stupid is nothing new. Unless you think crushing people with rocks to see if they are witches is mature.

 

[mikemart]

children and teens are never mature

most of them are idiots and act like an ass to seem cool to other people.

i know cause im 14 and i have alot of moments where i feel like the only person thats nice

 

[Xelanath]

Mature highschoolers? They never did exist.

If you're a highschooler and think you're mature... you aren't. You're just faking it. You haven't had any life experience, your hand is still being held for you, I don't care if you work a part time job.

Buy a house, live out on your own, pay your own bills, buy your own gas, your own games.

Then look back at what life was like before that level of responsibility- and you too will agree with my first statement.

I go to high school and I strongly agree with you.

I'm sorry for your high school experiences. While there clearly are many immature people aged 14-18, I know many people at that age who aren't or weren't, for that age.
What you, Dyskresiac, seem to be forgetting is that maturity doesn't rely on "Buy a house, live out on your own, pay your own bills, buy your own gas, your own games." While they all may help a person become more responsible and mature, they're not the only indicators or requirements.
A teenager's maturity can be measured by incidents like the ones detailed in the OP, for example.

And just to make my own position clear, incase it's brought into question: I'm almost 21 and meet all of your requirements except from owning a house, I rent.

 

[LeonLethality]

You're asking for maturity from an age group that generally isn't very mature. This is nothing new.

The guy on the bus, I believe was stated to be in his mid-30's. Calling someone "gay" and laughing at someone tripping is highly immature for that age group.

So wait, where did this happen?

The use of the word kid to describe the person who tripped made me assume this occurred on a school bus. Why would a thirty year old be on a school bus, other than the driver?

OP stated it happened on a public transit bus, I believe.

It did, I have never taken a school bus (aside from in gr.7 when I took the public transits SCHOOL SPECIALS to get to the school from the bus terminal)

 

[LeonLethality]

Then it was just an idiot. Society always had it's fair share of idiots.

Also I think him trying to stop the fight later on was just stupid. It sounds like the idiot that was about to be pulverized started the whole thing. If that kid was being an idiotic dick then I can understand why everyone would want to see him beaten to a pulp. Then he suddenly steps in and tries to be a vigilante by stopping the whole thing. I can understand why people would get pissed off by that.

Also people being immature and stupid is nothing new. Unless you think crushing people with rocks to see if they are witches is mature.

WAIT so why am I being flamed for being the bigger man and not letting someone be hurt
to take it a bit to far and such but I always use this phrase for situations like this
"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"

EDIT: and sorry for double posting I dont like making one huge post do to responding to a second person to make a wall of text in a single post sort of like a bad habit, dont hurt me =P

 

[Internet Kraken]

Then it was just an idiot. Society always had it's fair share of idiots.

Also I think him trying to stop the fight later on was just stupid. It sounds like the idiot that was about to be pulverized started the whole thing. If that kid was being an idiotic dick then I can understand why everyone would want to see him beaten to a pulp. Then he suddenly steps in and tries to be a vigilante by stopping the whole thing. I can understand why people would get pissed off by that.

Also people being immature and stupid is nothing new. Unless you think crushing people with rocks to see if they are witches is mature.

WAIT so why am I being flamed for being the bigger man and not letting someone be hurt
to take it a bit to far and such but I always use this phrase for situations like this
"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"

EDIT: and sorry for double posting I dont like making one huge post do to responding to a second person to make a wall of text in a single post sort of like a bad habit, dont hurt me =P

In a way this shows that you are immature. You think being a vigilante is a good idea.

You didn't know what was going on. You had no place in the conflict. You just ran in and assumed you where doing the right thing. That idiot probably had it coming. He probably deserved to be beaten up. So you stepping in to stop it is not heroic in anyway.

 

[Redingold]

Matur-a-what-now?

 

[awesomemans]

There have always been a LOT of assholes in the world. There are still mature people, but there are still a lot of assholes too. I think there are more selfish dicks this generation, though. You know why?

My Super Sweet Sixteen.

That's why.

 

[Baelinicus]

Personally, I would've done the same thing.

Yes, people can be retarded and may very well have "earned" a beating, but I'd stop it anyway. If you're being a tosser and somebody decides to pick a fight with you, then yes, you have a definite problem. However, IMHO, problems don't get solved via violence.

Which is why I avoid fights all the time, despite the sheer amount of crap people throw at me (figuratively speaking.) Sure, I could beat them up, but that ends badly for everybody.

 

[teisjm]

The bug thing:
It has nothing to do with maturity, it has something to do with stupidity, which is currently doing great in it's mission to conquer the world.

The badmouth thing.
Even thoug I don't aprove of violence i'm not sure i would help a badmouthing smartass. IF they we're trying to stomp him after hitting him to the ground then yes, but though i don't think he should be beaten up for it, i wouldn't consider it my problem to save an idiot from getting smacked around a bit. I would testify truthfully against the people who beat him up if required.

IMO, The best outcome of said scenario would be if someone had been smart enough to asnwer back (verbally) to the badmouth and make him look like the idiot he is (as far as i can tell from your post)
If he (the badmouth) them flipped and tried to use violence after seing how his verbal assault failed then whoever succede in defeating him verbally could defend themselves and smack him around in self defence.

A prick is a prick, whether online or on the bus. Don't feed him, don't give him what he wants. If you start a fight you're just perpetuating the madness. If you fight him it's just as bad. If you act like an adult he gets no thrill. He'll get frustrated, he'll try harder, but if there's a button marked "food" and you hit it a bunch and nothing happens, you stop expecting food after a while.

And if the button humiliates you or punch you you'll stop way quicker. And other people will learn by example not to behave like assholes.

If someone talks smack to you and you answer back and they try to hit you they started the fight not you. Then they've only win if they win the fight, so don't do it unless you're sure you can defend youeself against them.

If they talk smack and you hit them in responce you're starting a fight, and can prolly be sentenced for violence of some sort

 

[vamp rocks]

I don't interfere generally unless it affects me or I'm bored. Also if it has to do with chavs, I dislike chavs strongly, luckily chavs are weak pricks who get intimidated easily.

i would disagree with that... generally there is nothing more dangerous that a prick (especially a young one) who has something to prove via violence...

 

[LeonLethality]

Then it was just an idiot. Society always had it's fair share of idiots.

Also I think him trying to stop the fight later on was just stupid. It sounds like the idiot that was about to be pulverized started the whole thing. If that kid was being an idiotic dick then I can understand why everyone would want to see him beaten to a pulp. Then he suddenly steps in and tries to be a vigilante by stopping the whole thing. I can understand why people would get pissed off by that.

Also people being immature and stupid is nothing new. Unless you think crushing people with rocks to see if they are witches is mature.

WAIT so why am I being flamed for being the bigger man and not letting someone be hurt
to take it a bit to far and such but I always use this phrase for situations like this
"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"

EDIT: and sorry for double posting I dont like making one huge post do to responding to a second person to make a wall of text in a single post sort of like a bad habit, dont hurt me =P

In a way this shows that you are immature. You think being a vigilante is a good idea.

You didn't know what was going on. You had no place in the conflict. You just ran in and assumed you where doing the right thing. That idiot probably had it coming. He probably deserved to be beaten up. So you stepping in to stop it is not heroic in anyway.

I wasnt trying to be a hero after teh bleeding nose I figured he would have learned his lesson, no need for him to be hospitalized, sometimes we cant work out our problems with words and I know he had it coming its in our nature to be violent, and he was ignorant to words as most are so he at least got some sense knocked into him, but it didnt have to go to the point where he was on the ground begging for the guy to stop, it did so I had to stop it.

 

[Angelic-Dragon]

I find maturity is a term that is used too loosely now, as what everyone else has most likely said before me. People are just pillicks in the real world

 

[wordsmith]

getif "is your business" == 1
set action to 1
Elseif "is your business" == 0
set don't_interfere to 1.

Slapstick is funny for a reason. Maturity doesn't mean getting a tumor in your humour, it just means taking responcibility when you mess up.

Also- the obligatory "What happened to your mom's maturity?"

 

[Lord George]

I don't interfere generally unless it affects me or I'm bored. Also if it has to do with chavs, I dislike chavs strongly, luckily chavs are weak pricks who get intimidated easily.

i would disagree with that... generally there is nothing more dangerous that a prick (especially a young one) who has something to prove via violence...

Ahh but usually a lankie one who's a smoker, up against a 6ft 2 guy who works out regularly at the gym (thats a me) well actually I just rely on my look to scare them off, they try to brush it off with some from of muttered insult and then sit down broodily. Serves them right.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

It died out around when they invented the Internet.

This. Because of the delusion that free speech means you can do whatever the fuck you want, people instantly lose all their intelligence, maturity and sense of dignity online in favor for stroking their own e-dicks in front of other people by showing off how big a wall of incoherent 1337-text they can type or harass minorities by griefing them forever (the latter case featuring furries being the prime example of such on YouTube).

 

[Internet Kraken]

Then it was just an idiot. Society always had it's fair share of idiots.

Also I think him trying to stop the fight later on was just stupid. It sounds like the idiot that was about to be pulverized started the whole thing. If that kid was being an idiotic dick then I can understand why everyone would want to see him beaten to a pulp. Then he suddenly steps in and tries to be a vigilante by stopping the whole thing. I can understand why people would get pissed off by that.

Also people being immature and stupid is nothing new. Unless you think crushing people with rocks to see if they are witches is mature.

WAIT so why am I being flamed for being the bigger man and not letting someone be hurt
to take it a bit to far and such but I always use this phrase for situations like this
"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"

EDIT: and sorry for double posting I dont like making one huge post do to responding to a second person to make a wall of text in a single post sort of like a bad habit, dont hurt me =P

In a way this shows that you are immature. You think being a vigilante is a good idea.

You didn't know what was going on. You had no place in the conflict. You just ran in and assumed you where doing the right thing. That idiot probably had it coming. He probably deserved to be beaten up. So you stepping in to stop it is not heroic in anyway.

I wasnt trying to be a hero

Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.

 

[Internet Kraken]

It died out around when they invented the Internet.

This. Because of the delusion that free speech means you can do whatever the fuck you want, people instantly lose all their intelligence, maturity and sense of dignity online in favor for stroking their own e-dicks in front of other people by showing off how big a wall of incoherent 1337-text they can type or harass minorities by griefing them forever (the latter case featuring furries being the prime example of such on YouTube).

Yep, and stupidity on the internet definitely carries over into the real world. It always does.

Come on. You're telling me that the stupidity on the internet is worse than the stupdity humans displayed in, oh say, the Crusades?

Technology doesn't make people stupid.