What happens after death?

[Skeleon]

That point holds true if there is no soul. That topic, however, is still up to debate.

Only if you're willing to accept the supernatural without any evidence.
Scientifically speaking, there's no reason for souls to exist.
Uh-oh, I'm going down a dangerous road here, flanked by pillars of flame.

 

[Mromson]

How would there be ANYTHING after death? When your brain stops sending signals, you're dead. Kaput. Finished.

Unless you're scientifically revived, you'll continue being dead. There's nothing after death. You DIE. You're DEAD. Your brain is no longer functioning. And a Brain is EVERYTHING you are.

Thinking otherwise seems completely illogical.


Hmm, maybe I should touch on this whole soul thing too. Lets assume there is a soul, and that souls "magically" travel to bodies. When YOU die, you will still continue being dead. Because your soul would be the same as a heart, if you move your heart to replace someone elses heart, that someone will continue to live - but you won't be revived by it.

 

[DrDeath3191]

That point holds true if there is no soul. That topic, however, is still up to debate.

Only if you're willing to accept the supernatural without any evidence.
Scientifically speaking, there's no reason for souls to exist.
Uh-oh, I'm going down a dangerous road here, flanked by pillars of flame.

Actually, there was a scientific experiment taken when some hospital patients died. They were put on scales during their deaths. At the point of death, there was an inexplicable loss of weight. There's some scientific evidence that the soul not only exists, but that it has mass. Here's the source: http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

 

[TalonsOfWar]

in my opinion?

we die. we rot away.

romantic, isn't it?

i think that is very romantic unless u dont count all spiders on your grave and corpse rotting away haha but yes very romantic

 

[TalonsOfWar]

There are so many answers that so many people can give you.
It depends on where you want your answer to come from.
Here's the Bible answer:

Genesis 3:19 For dust you are and to dust you shall return.

Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20 For the fate of human and the fate of animal is the same: as the one dies, so the other dies; both have the selfsame breath. Human is in no way better off than animal -- since all is futile.
Everything goes to the same place, everything comes from the dust, everything returns to the dust.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 The living are at least aware that they are going to die, but the dead know nothing whatever.

But death is not the end because on the last day Jesus will preform a large resurrection.

John 11;24 Martha said to him: ?I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.?


John 5:28 Do not be surprised at this, for the hour is coming when the dead will leave their graves at the sound of his voice:

Acts 24:15 and I hold the same hope in God as they do that there will be a resurrection of the upright and the wicked alike.

no offense but this is a gamer site and not a lot of gamers beleive in god but thats just wat i think and why would u take the time to look in a bible for all this and im just wondering

 

[bodyklok]

That point holds true if there is no soul. That topic, however, is still up to debate.

Only if you're willing to accept the supernatural without any evidence.
Scientifically speaking, there's no reason for souls to exist.
Uh-oh, I'm going down a dangerous road here, flanked by pillars of flame.

Actually, there was a scientific experiment taken when some hospital patients died. They were put on scales during their deaths. At the point of death, there was an inexplicable loss of weight. There's some scientific evidence that the soul not only exists, but that it has mass. Here's the source: http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

First off, how do you know thats a soul? And don't say 'HURR DURR WHAT ELSE IT GONNA BE?'. Secondly, why aren't there more examples of this? I'm sure you might be able to find some but it does beg the question. Thirdly, can you post a more reliable source?

Oh, and for the sake of argument. When a someone dies, they shit themselves, dude. How do you know thats not the reason for this .weight loss.

 

[Mromson]

That point holds true if there is no soul. That topic, however, is still up to debate.

Only if you're willing to accept the supernatural without any evidence.
Scientifically speaking, there's no reason for souls to exist.
Uh-oh, I'm going down a dangerous road here, flanked by pillars of flame.

Actually, there was a scientific experiment taken when some hospital patients died. They were put on scales during their deaths. At the point of death, there was an inexplicable loss of weight. There's some scientific evidence that the soul not only exists, but that it has mass. Here's the source: http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

I'm sorry, but I find that explanation quite laughable.

 

[Skeleon]

Actually, there was a scientific experiment taken when some hospital patients died. They were put on scales during their deaths. At the point of death, there was an inexplicable loss of weight. There's some scientific evidence that the soul not only exists, but that it has mass. Here's the source: http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

Hm, but isn't that kind of contrary to the whole "non-corporeal being"-idea?

Also, even the article you posted yourself counters the idea by stating:

What to make of all this? MacDougall's results were flawed because the methodology used to harvest them was suspect, the sample size far too small, and the ability to measure changes in weight imprecise. For this reason, credence should not be given to the idea his experiments proved something, let alone that they measured the weight of the soul as 21 grams. His postulations on this topic are a curiousity, but nothing more.

 

[Xeros]

I like to think that if we've led a decent life, we get to come back.

 

[Mromson]

People make things up because they're scared of what the actual reality might be. People don't want to die, so making themselves believe that there's something after death calms them somehow.

 

[DrDeath3191]

First off, how do you know thats a soul? And don't say 'HURR DURR WHAT ELSE IT GONNA BE?'. Secondly, why aren't there more examples of this? I'm sure you might be able to find some but it does beg the question. Thirdly, can you post a more reliable source?

Oh, and for the sake of argument. When a someone dies, they shit themselves, dude. How do you know thats not the reason for this .weight loss.

You're right. I cannot positively determine that it was a soul leaving the body. For all I know, something in the body exploded at time of death. But it is what the doctor who performed the experiment believes. Excrement cannot be the answer because that would land on the scale, thus merely moving the weight, not subtracting from it.

I'm sorry, but I find that explanation quite laughable.

Could you explain a little more?

Hm, but isn't that kind of contrary to the whole "non-corporeal being"-idea?

Also, even the article you posted yourself counters the idea by stating:

What to make of all this? MacDougall's results were flawed because the methodology used to harvest them was suspect, the sample size far too small, and the ability to measure changes in weight imprecise. For this reason, credence should not be given to the idea his experiments proved something, let alone that they measured the weight of the soul as 21 grams. His postulations on this topic are a curiousity, but nothing more.

I honestly don't have an explanation for incorporeal statement. I'm not an expert in this field, though. Someone else may be able to provide a better explanation, but I certainly cannot. I would like to see the results of his experiment repeated with more accurate tools of measurement. Somehow, though, I don't think anyone would want to.

If you want to look further into the experiment, just Google Soul Weight Experiment.

 

[bodyklok]

First off, how do you know thats a soul? And don't say 'HURR DURR WHAT ELSE IT GONNA BE?'. Secondly, why aren't there more examples of this? I'm sure you might be able to find some but it does beg the question. Thirdly, can you post a more reliable source?

Oh, and for the sake of argument. When a someone dies, they shit themselves, dude. How do you know thats not the reason for this .weight loss.

You're right. I cannot positively determine that it was a soul leaving the body. For all I know, something in the body exploded at time of death. But it is what I believe (as does the doctor who performed the experiment). Excrement cannot be the answer because that would land on the scale, thus merely moving the weight, not subtracting from it.

I repeat my request for a more reliable source, and proof that it was a soul and not something else.

If you want to look further into the experiment, just Google Soul Weight Experiment.

I have [http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2007/03/does-soul-weigh-21-grams.html] and it would be one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard of if not for the unfortunate fact that there are people stupid enough to believe it.

 

[Mromson]

First off, how do you know thats a soul? And don't say 'HURR DURR WHAT ELSE IT GONNA BE?'. Secondly, why aren't there more examples of this? I'm sure you might be able to find some but it does beg the question. Thirdly, can you post a more reliable source?

Oh, and for the sake of argument. When a someone dies, they shit themselves, dude. How do you know thats not the reason for this .weight loss.

You're right. I cannot positively determine that it was a soul leaving the body. For all I know, something in the body exploded at time of death. But it is what the doctor who performed the experiment believes. Excrement cannot be the answer because that would land on the scale, thus merely moving the weight, not subtracting from it.

I'm sorry, but I find that explanation quite laughable.

Could you explain a little more?

Hm, but isn't that kind of contrary to the whole "non-corporeal being"-idea?

Also, even the article you posted yourself counters the idea by stating:

What to make of all this? MacDougall's results were flawed because the methodology used to harvest them was suspect, the sample size far too small, and the ability to measure changes in weight imprecise. For this reason, credence should not be given to the idea his experiments proved something, let alone that they measured the weight of the soul as 21 grams. His postulations on this topic are a curiousity, but nothing more.

I honestly don't have an explanation for incorporeal statement. I'm not an expert in this field, though. Someone else may be able to provide a better explanation, but I certainly cannot. I would like to see the results of his experiment repeated with more accurate tools of measurement. Somehow, though, I don't think anyone would want to.

If you want to look further into the experiment, just Google Soul Weight Experiment.

Google "corpse" or "cadaver" and find out what happens when you die.

And second, even IF there was a soul. And you died, YOU would STILL be DEAD. Because you are just your brain. What your arm, leg, heart, lung or SOUL does after you die, doesn't make you any less DEAD. If your brain isn't functioning, then you're dead - and the only way back to life is to revive your brain functions.

 

[Xorghul]

Nothing. It's the end of your existence.

 

[DrDeath3191]

Google "corpse" or "cadaver" and find out what happens when you die.

And second, even IF there was a soul. And you died, YOU would STILL be DEAD. Because you are just your brain. What your arm, leg, heart, lung or SOUL does after you die, doesn't make you any less DEAD. If your brain isn't functioning, then you're dead - and the only way back to life is to revive your brain functions.

People would argue that the soul is you, not the brain. The physical part dies; that is not up to debate. It's the metaphysical part that people have issue with.
I personally believe in the soul if you haven't figured it out yet. I believe that some sort of energy (not a mass. I'm not a full believer in the Soul Weight experiment. I just wanted to show that there is some interesting scientific pursuits in the direction of the soul.) leaves the body. Possibly the electric enery from the brain is our soul. According to the Law of Conservation of Energy, this doesn't disappear. Where does it go? I think heaven. I'm not 100% sure on this: no one really is. But I think it's a nice thought.

 

[Kwaren]

you rot

 

[Padefe]

We are turned into energy to power some giants cellphone or MP3 player.
Yes, the universe is just plain atoms.

 

[vamp rocks]

Your body is put in the morgue for a bit then you're either cremated or dressed up, put in a box and dumped 6 feet under ground.

Unless you got horribly murdered and someone doesn't want you to be found, then you'll probably be dumped in a hole in the woods.

this is, by far... my favourite answer on this thread... lol

 

[Skeleon]

According to the Law of Conservation of Energy, this doesn't disappear.

Well, since the electricity in your nerve cells is an ionic potential that is kept at its level by active transport of sodium and kalium (adenosine triphosphate is necessary for this, so it's limited after death), it's more likely that said electric potential is lost through the natural diffusion of ions across the cell membrane.

I read through the article bodyklok posted and I have to agree: Why are religious people always trying to find confirmation for their belief in science? They're completely different things.

Believe me, I'm not trying to belittle your faith. But I think that religion has no place in science and vice-versa.

 

[Mromson]

Google "corpse" or "cadaver" and find out what happens when you die.

And second, even IF there was a soul. And you died, YOU would STILL be DEAD. Because you are just your brain. What your arm, leg, heart, lung or SOUL does after you die, doesn't make you any less DEAD. If your brain isn't functioning, then you're dead - and the only way back to life is to revive your brain functions.

People would argue that the soul is you, not the brain. The physical part dies; that is not up to debate. It's the metaphysical part that people have issue with.
I personally believe in the soul if you haven't figured it out yet. I believe that some sort of energy (not a mass. I'm not a full believer in the Soul Weight experiment. I just wanted to show that there is some interesting scientific pursuits in the direction of the soul.) leaves the body. Possibly the electric enery from the brain is our soul. According to the Law of Conservation of Energy, this doesn't disappear. Where does it go? I think heaven. I'm not 100% sure on this: no one really is. But I think it's a nice thought.

By that logic, every time I turn off my PC, I send it to heaven or hell. Since a brain works pretty much like a CPU sending signals back and fourth and arranging itself in just the right way to create memories and thought.

And it certainly physically possible to revive your brain functions after you die (just that we can't do it yet and it's questioned if we'll ever be capable of doing so). What happens then? You come back from heaven? But you have no memory of it, then how can you have been anywhere?

It's one thing I hate about religion is that it makes people throw logic out of the window.