I think science and religion are both pursuits of truth that can greatly benefit from one another. Do they need to be mutually exclusive?Skeleon said:I read through the article bodyklok posted and I have to agree: Why are religious people always trying to find confirmation for their belief in science? They're completely different things.DrDeath3191 said:According to the Law of Conservation of Energy, this doesn't disappear.
Believe me, I'm not trying to belittle your faith. But I think that religion has no place in science and vice-versa.
I don't know what would happen. That's why it is called faith, not knowledge.Mromson said:By that logic, every time I turn off my PC, I send it to heaven or hell. Since a brain works pretty much like a CPU sending signals back and fourth and arranging itself in just the right way to create memories and thought.
And it certainly physically possible to revive your brain functions after you die (just that we can't do it yet and it's questioned if we'll ever be capable of doing so). What happens then? You come back from heaven? But you have no memory of it, then how can you have been anywhere?
It's one thing I hate about religion is that it makes people throw logic out of the window.
Religion is mostly about twisting facts to fit your own perspective of the world. It does not follow reason. Even when disproved beyond reason, a religious person will still stick to his. It doesn't follow logic. How can you be scientific when you don't follow logic? Doesn't make sense.DrDeath3191 said:I think science and religion are both pursuits of truth that can greatly benefit from one another. Do they need to be mutually exclusive?Skeleon said:I read through the article bodyklok posted and I have to agree: Why are religious people always trying to find confirmation for their belief in science? They're completely different things.DrDeath3191 said:According to the Law of Conservation of Energy, this doesn't disappear.
Believe me, I'm not trying to belittle your faith. But I think that religion has no place in science and vice-versa.I don't know what would happen. That's why it is called faith, not knowledge.Mromson said:By that logic, every time I turn off my PC, I send it to heaven or hell. Since a brain works pretty much like a CPU sending signals back and fourth and arranging itself in just the right way to create memories and thought.
And it certainly physically possible to revive your brain functions after you die (just that we can't do it yet and it's questioned if we'll ever be capable of doing so). What happens then? You come back from heaven? But you have no memory of it, then how can you have been anywhere?
It's one thing I hate about religion is that it makes people throw logic out of the window.
As long as they don't work on the same level (faith versus logic, certainty versus constant doubt, dogma versus experiementation), yes, they are.DrDeath3191 said:I think science and religion are both pursuits of truth that can greatly benefit from one another. Do they need to be mutually exclusive?
That's quite a stereotype. You assume that all people of religion must be babbling morons who believe the world was created in seven days, and that some guy found magical x-ray specs to read gold plates that he couldn't show anybody. Science can help to reaffirm or correct faith. I believe in evolution, the Big Bang, and such because there is evidence of its occurence. I also believe in God, Intelligent Design, and Heaven because I think that we are not alone, someone (or something) created us, it was intelligent, and it cares that we exist (or at least it hasn't killed us yet). Is it really that illogical to believe in something greater than ourselves?Mromson said:Religion is mostly about twisting facts to fit your own perspective of the world. It does not follow reason. Even when disproved beyond reason, a religious person will still stick to his. It doesn't follow logic. How can you be scientific when you don't follow logic? Doesn't make sense.
I don't find it illogical to believe that there's some form of god out there, but until there's evidence for his existence; there is no god. But to think that "god is watching over you", or that god purposefully created you, or that there's ANYTHING after you die - is complete and utter rubbish. It's nothing but wishful thinking.DrDeath3191 said:That's quite a stereotype. You assume that all people of religion must be babbling morons who believe the world was created in seven days, and that some guy found magical x-ray specs to read gold plates that he couldn't show anybody. Science can help to reaffirm or correct faith. I believe in evolution, the Big Bang, and such because there is evidence of its occurence. I also believe in God, Intelligent Design, and Heaven because I think that we are not alone, someone (or something) created us, it was intelligent, and it cares that we exist (or at least it hasn't killed us yet). Is it really that illogical to believe in something greater than ourselves?Mromson said:Religion is mostly about twisting facts to fit your own perspective of the world. It does not follow reason. Even when disproved beyond reason, a religious person will still stick to his. It doesn't follow logic. How can you be scientific when you don't follow logic? Doesn't make sense.
But it's such nice thinking.Mromson said:I don't find it illogical to believe that there's some form of god out there, but until there's evidence for his existence; there is no god. But to think that "god is watching over you", or that god purposefully created you, or that there's ANYTHING after you die - is complete and utter rubbish. It's nothing but wishful thinking.DrDeath3191 said:That's quite a stereotype. You assume that all people of religion must be babbling morons who believe the world was created in seven days, and that some guy found magical x-ray specs to read gold plates that he couldn't show anybody. Science can help to reaffirm or correct faith. I believe in evolution, the Big Bang, and such because there is evidence of its occurence. I also believe in God, Intelligent Design, and Heaven because I think that we are not alone, someone (or something) created us, it was intelligent, and it cares that we exist (or at least it hasn't killed us yet). Is it really that illogical to believe in something greater than ourselves?Mromson said:Religion is mostly about twisting facts to fit your own perspective of the world. It does not follow reason. Even when disproved beyond reason, a religious person will still stick to his. It doesn't follow logic. How can you be scientific when you don't follow logic? Doesn't make sense.
Whatever makes people sleep at night, I suppose.DrDeath3191 said:But it's such nice thinking.Mromson said:I don't find it illogical to believe that there's some form of god out there, but until there's evidence for his existence; there is no god. But to think that "god is watching over you", or that god purposefully created you, or that there's ANYTHING after you die - is complete and utter rubbish. It's nothing but wishful thinking.DrDeath3191 said:That's quite a stereotype. You assume that all people of religion must be babbling morons who believe the world was created in seven days, and that some guy found magical x-ray specs to read gold plates that he couldn't show anybody. Science can help to reaffirm or correct faith. I believe in evolution, the Big Bang, and such because there is evidence of its occurence. I also believe in God, Intelligent Design, and Heaven because I think that we are not alone, someone (or something) created us, it was intelligent, and it cares that we exist (or at least it hasn't killed us yet). Is it really that illogical to believe in something greater than ourselves?Mromson said:Religion is mostly about twisting facts to fit your own perspective of the world. It does not follow reason. Even when disproved beyond reason, a religious person will still stick to his. It doesn't follow logic. How can you be scientific when you don't follow logic? Doesn't make sense.