What happens when you die?

[Dirty Saint]

You no longer have to pay taxes...........unless you're reincarnated.
Goddammit. >.<

 

[LiquidGrape]

I defer to Carlin's assessment that reincarnation isn't mathematically possible, and thus we remain tiny specks of carbon; in life and death.
No metaphysical mumbo jumbo, we simply cease to be.

 

[Joe Matsuda]

Not much...

your "spirit" may manifest as a residual electromagnetic discharge...

...or you find out you were actually on a game show called "How Long Can You 'Live'???" and recieve prize money accordingly...

 

[gl1koz3]

Well, nothing much. First you feel like absolutely drugged. As power outage in your brain spreads, you'll start seeing weird things. Light in the tunnel... the failure of eyesight part of the brain, probably. Then you'll gradually stop understanding you're dying. Then an infinite amount of time will pass.

I've concluded for myself that imagining an infinite amount of time passing is most probably how you can imagine death.

 

[Uzigawa]

I defer to Carlin's assessment that reincarnation isn't mathematically possible, and thus we remain tiny specks of carbon; in life and death.
No metaphysical mumbo jumbo, we simply cease to be.

mathmatically it is, death rates are lower than birth rates, plus reincarnation opposite to popular belief isn't just for humans, animals, insects, anything alive is fair game, even trees, and humans are low on the chain, so as long as there are less bad people dying then there are births then it's okay, and any leftover integers that aren't reincarnated souls, new souls are created. i'm not saying i believe it, but it is mathmatically possible

 

[Uzigawa]

You no longer have to pay taxes...........unless you're reincarnated.
Goddammit. >.<

unless you come back as a platypus, everyone knows that they are the only tax exempt creatures in the USA

 

[slowpoke999]

Well technically we came into existence because before we were born we didn't exist, perhaps we aren't even 'living' now we are just a bunch of say data flowing through a computer, the data being our consciousness and the computer being our bodies, data can forever be lost(we die), duplicated and placed in a new computer(cloning) or moved to a new computer(placing our consciousness in another body, though that technology hasn't yet been invented).

I'm agnostic in every sense, don't know, don't care, but there is a possibility reincarnation doesn't exist(every lifeforms on Earth, nay, in all existence can be killed, so we wouldn't be able to reincarnate, making that theory obsolete). As much as believing in afterlife would be nice, I always try to take the rational thought, and consider even thinking about it except to share my thoughts with others such a waste of time, I never even think about it unless someone else mentions it, and guess what, 5 seconds after I enter 'post' I'll forget about it again.

don't think you have a good understanding of reincarnation, it doesn't mean someone is invulnerable, it means when you die, you are put in a new body, no memory of past lives, and what you become is based on deeds in your past life, and surprisingly enough, humans are low on the list of things you become, usually something that was bad in a past life becomes human

What I'm trying to convey is that if everyone in the world were to die, how would they reincarnate when their is no baby or whatever born to 'reincarnate' to?

you reincarnate multiple times, actually, the theory is to move up the chain of reincarnated things until you finally die at the top, in which you reach enlightenment and go to paradise. it's a novel theory actual

I'm guessing you don't actually believe in reincarnation because of your previous posts but yeah that sounds awfully redundant to me, if they were to cut out the middleman, reincarnation is basically a delayed-afterlife.

it's true i don't. i've looked into it, i don't find it much more practical, i just find it fanciful and interesting, if i could choose which one was true, it'd be that, mainly because it's not based on you blindly following a religion with no proof, any religion can get in, it's purely based on your merits as a human, it's what i wish more religions focused on, i'd like to think if christianity is true, that god could look past my disbelief for reasons that i truly looked into it, and i had no reason to believe, only reasons to not believe, god can't expect us to know everything, if he exists, he made us like that, plus, that leaves someone born in a certain region where christianity is not known, and when they die, they are damned to hell merely for where they were born, doesn't exactly sound logical.

Yeah, in the future as long as Athiesm advances Religion has two options:
1.Roll over and die
2.Combine their beliefs with other religions and just make their moral rules the same as society's

Christianity basically did both(except the combine beliefs), they used to believe in Creationism and used to think of gays/other races as 'lesser' and evolved over time, with their belief the only thing mostly unchanged.

But by combining other religions they can weaken the notion that anything can be a religion(Oh great spaghetti monster) by basically saying any religion that believes in a higher power/powers is the same religion, just different branches.(So basically all beliefs like Christianity,Islam,Hinduism will just be "religion")

Basically I think religion is a hunk of shit, but not saying it's going anyway anytime soon, it's just gotta change its game.

 

[slowpoke999]

I defer to Carlin's assessment that reincarnation isn't mathematically possible, and thus we remain tiny specks of carbon; in life and death.
No metaphysical mumbo jumbo, we simply cease to be.

mathmatically it is, death rates are lower than birth rates, plus reincarnation opposite to popular belief isn't just for humans, animals, insects, anything alive is fair game, even trees, and humans are low on the chain, so as long as there are less bad people dying then there are births then it's okay, and any leftover integers that aren't reincarnated souls, new souls are created. i'm not saying i believe it, but it is mathmatically possible

Heh but that's the thing, what happens when the population of every living thing stabilizes and just stays the same while living organisms die then are born again,what is happening when people are dieing but not being born,where do they go, and what happens to them if no-one is ever born/grown again, do they just enter dreamless sleep until a new capsule arises for them, and if there are no new capsules created ever again do they cease to exist?Congratulations, reincarnation is almost exactly like permanent death that most Atheists believe in, almost.

 

[Uzigawa]

I defer to Carlin's assessment that reincarnation isn't mathematically possible, and thus we remain tiny specks of carbon; in life and death.
No metaphysical mumbo jumbo, we simply cease to be.

mathmatically it is, death rates are lower than birth rates, plus reincarnation opposite to popular belief isn't just for humans, animals, insects, anything alive is fair game, even trees, and humans are low on the chain, so as long as there are less bad people dying then there are births then it's okay, and any leftover integers that aren't reincarnated souls, new souls are created. i'm not saying i believe it, but it is mathmatically possible

Heh but that's the thing, what happens when the population of every living thing stabilizes and just stays the same while living organisms die then are born again,what is happening when people are dieing but not being born,where do they go, and what happens to them if no-one is ever born/grown again, do they just enter dreamless sleep until a new capsule arises for them, and if there are no new capsules created ever again do they cease to exist?Congratulations, reincarnation is almost exactly like permanent death that most Atheists believe in, almost.

well, according to the religion, basically the universe won't let that happen, it will always make new creatures to continue the cycle, but if there is ever a remainder, it would probably just lower standards to be let into paradise

 

[Counterwise]

I had this thought when I was about 12 or something, and I concluded if I die I'll see. I sometimes revisit that thought and always reach the same conclusion.

To the reincarnationists, the thought comes from Buddhism and they believe that this cycle continues for a unimaginably long time until it ends, thus everything will end.
Hinduists don't have a clear afterlife or reincarnation, they believe that they are either the dreams of a god, but in a surprising twist to religion, that the gods are the dreams of men.
This whole Jesus and Muhhamad, and their corresponding faiths, deal is quite unreasonable, they cannot withstand any scrutiny, even on a philosophical level. Most eastern philosophies are un-testable, they are ideas and speculations. Quite fascinating ideas, I enjoy researching them and finding other states of my mind(not hard drugs).
What was the topic? What happens after death?
Who cares?

 

[SideburnsPuppy]

I'll fall over. Cookie for the reference!

EDIT: I've decided to give some genuine thought on this one, however, whenever I think about death I end up thinking about how awesome it is to be in control of my own destiny (I think Heidegger called it Angst). Frankly, we'll never know what happens after death, until we die. But if you want a really chilling version of the afterlife, check out <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCP9f0VicBE>50 percent Grey.

 

[GundamSentinel]

I will decay... Nothing more, nothing less. My conscience (or what we might percieve as conscience as it is just an iterative cause and effect system (but let's not get technical)) will be gone. There is no afterlife of any kind (why would there be?), but that doesn't matter, since it makes me value the time I have now even more.

 

[Uzigawa]

ya, the mathmatical approach to reincarnation is impossible because it is easily countered by "*insert higher power here* will correct it" it may not be the strongest argument, but it doesn't matter how many facts you have, religious people will believe what they want. i saw a video once of a church seminar, and they were teaching kids that evolution was not only wrong but they tried to make it sound silly, and to disprove dinosaurs being billions of years old, they tried to teach these small kids that dinosaurs lived along side man at one time, like...in bible times...like adam and eve, they'll try to make their religion sound right no matter how many facts or logical statements they have to shatter. ill try and find link for the video

 

[slowpoke999]

I'll fall over. Cookie for the reference!

Tch, there are so many holes in that theory, what happens if your body wasn't in a position where gravity would affect its position when it become lifeless(like lieing down).

Whatever religion you got that from is the stupidest of them all.

Sorry I made a joke about applying over thinking to an obvious joke.

 

[Uzigawa]

I'll fall over. Cookie for the reference!

Tch, there are so many holes in that theory, what happens if your body wasn't in a position where gravity would affect its position when it become lifeless(like lieing down).

Whatever religion you got that from is the stupidest of them all.

Sorry I made a joke about applying over thinking to an obvious joke.

da da chhh

 

[Uzigawa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bdtlNUlx4

Found that link

 

[oktalist]

We all share the same [del]conscience[/del] consciousness, but at different points on its internal "timeline".

So "your" consciousness will go into someone else. But you/they won't be aware of it because it doesn't retain memories or anything. So effectively it's equivalent to "nothing happens when you die". But it doesn't mean there's an eternity of nothingness waiting for you when you die, it just means it's someone else's turn to use the universe's one consciousness.

 

[SideburnsPuppy]

Whatever religion you got that from is the stupidest of them all.

Cheezepuffology is not a religion! It's a way of dealing with the inherent futility and hypocrisies of life! (Still referencing the same thing here, guys! There are cookies galore!)

Now to be serious aboot death again so that I don't feel bad for making a useless post.

Heh but that's the thing, what happens when the population of every living thing stabilizes and just stays the same while living organisms die then are born again,what is happening when people are dieing but not being born

I like to think that, by that point, there will be Dresden Codak-style technological singularity and nobody will have souls anyway, save for two certain possibly-nuclear-powered twins. And some apes. And a ragtag band of time-travelers.

 

[XzarTheMad]

You ever been asleep without dreaming? Yeah, it's like that. Forever.

 

[HTID Raver]

if you dont remember life before being born then im sure it will be the same after death. who knows?