What if... Mass Effect 2 ending leading into ME3 idea (spoilers)

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sln333

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What if you let the Collector base remain intact, but Shepard dies? Do you think he could return in ME3 as an indoctrinated Reaper slave?
 

sln333

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It's still possible to keep the base intact and have him die if your squad doesn't make it.
I thought it would be ok to ask a question here because this is generally a good community and I don't want to join the Bioware forums to ask one question.
 

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I don't know, really, I've only ever blown the base up. What happens if it stays intact?
 

sln333

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If Shepard dies, and it stays intact, the ending looks like this. This also makes me realize the Illusive Man wanted Shepard to kill the Collectors, save the base, and die trying. He's already got research ships at the base around 1:20. I bet he could get there all along, but it wasn't safe enough.
 

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sln333 said:
If Shepard dies, and it stays intact, the ending looks like this. This also makes me realize the Illusive Man wanted Shepard to kill the Collectors, save the base, and die trying. He's already got research ships at the base around 1:20. I bet he could get there all along, but it wasn't safe enough.
You know what that means... Joker is the new Shepard!
 

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That must be some damn lightweight material in that girder that Joker effortlessly moved out of the way.
 

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Hang on...
How do you make Shepard die?
I read this somewhere, but I still dont know how he can die.
What squad options do you need to choose?
 

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AddytheGreat said:
Hang on...
How do you make Shepard die?
I read this somewhere, but I still dont know how he can die.
What squad options do you need to choose?
You need to not wake up Grunt and Legion, have nobody loyal and no ship upgrades, and pick all the wrong choices for the specialist slots. This results in Shepard being KIA along with the rest of his crew with Joker and EDI being the only survivors.
 

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seditary said:
That must be some damn lightweight material in that girder that Joker effortlessly moved out of the way.
Yeah, maybe I missed some dialogue in-game, but aren't Joker's bones supposed to be so brittle that walking around can break his legs? Yet he falls down a couple times (seriously, why doesn't the Normandy have seat belts?) and uses an assault rifle without breaking any bones.
 

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donutsftw said:
seditary said:
That must be some damn lightweight material in that girder that Joker effortlessly moved out of the way.
Yeah, maybe I missed some dialogue in-game, but aren't Joker's bones supposed to be so brittle that walking around can break his legs? Yet he falls down a couple times (seriously, why doesn't the Normandy have seat belts?) and uses an assault rifle without breaking any bones.
I remember reading somewhere that Cerberus did something to Joker's bones.
 

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elitepie931 said:
donutsftw said:
seditary said:
That must be some damn lightweight material in that girder that Joker effortlessly moved out of the way.
Yeah, maybe I missed some dialogue in-game, but aren't Joker's bones supposed to be so brittle that walking around can break his legs? Yet he falls down a couple times (seriously, why doesn't the Normandy have seat belts?) and uses an assault rifle without breaking any bones.
I remember reading somewhere that Cerberus did something to Joker's bones.
Joker still has a disability to be sure but I think Cerberus did enhance his skeletal structure so he's somewhat less brittle.

I think it could be possible the Illusive man did intend for Shepard to die. I'm still trying to reconcile the shit Cerb did in the first game with the reasonable man who pretends to be the Illusive Man. I definatly think Illusive is hiding something, you see a brief glimpse of his personality when he rants about human dominance in the Galaxy. He's not interested in peace or stability, just humans.
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
elitepie931 said:
donutsftw said:
seditary said:
That must be some damn lightweight material in that girder that Joker effortlessly moved out of the way.
Yeah, maybe I missed some dialogue in-game, but aren't Joker's bones supposed to be so brittle that walking around can break his legs? Yet he falls down a couple times (seriously, why doesn't the Normandy have seat belts?) and uses an assault rifle without breaking any bones.
I remember reading somewhere that Cerberus did something to Joker's bones.
Joker still has a disability to be sure but I think Cerberus did enhance his skeletal structure so he's somewhat less brittle.

I think it could be possible the Illusive man did intend for Shepard to die. I'm still trying to reconcile the shit Cerb did in the first game with the reasonable man who pretends to be the Illusive Man. I definatly think Illusive is hiding something, you see a brief glimpse of his personality when he rants about human dominance in the Galaxy. He's not interested in peace or stability, just humans.
Or maybe the Illusive Man is simply not a moron and realizes that humans would need the help of aliens in order to stop the collectors? The collectors are a huge threat to humanity and how much dominance could humanity have if they or all spacefaring life gets killed or indoctrinated?
 

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Internet Kraken said:
AddytheGreat said:
Hang on...
How do you make Shepard die?
I read this somewhere, but I still dont know how he can die.
What squad options do you need to choose?
You need to not wake up Grunt and Legion, have nobody loyal and no ship upgrades, and pick all the wrong choices for the specialist slots. This results in Shepard being KIA along with the rest of his crew with Joker and EDI being the only survivors.
Who the hell gets that ending? -.-

I picked the perfect specialist spots. Samara is officially fucking awesome.
 

Jaranja

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Xzi said:
c0lefalk said:
sln333 said:
If Shepard dies, and it stays intact, the ending looks like this. This also makes me realize the Illusive Man wanted Shepard to kill the Collectors, save the base, and die trying. He's already got research ships at the base around 1:20. I bet he could get there all along, but it wasn't safe enough.
You know what that means... Joker is the new Shepard!
Been discussed. You can't export your ME2 save to ME3 if Shepard dies. I love that Bioware did this. It's basically like saying, "sorry, you fail. Just wasted ten hours playing the game because you didn't bother experiencing the majority of it. GG."
Not really wasted, it's still fun but, yes, I agree; people that play for about 10 hours are really just stupid as hell.
 

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Xzi said:
c0lefalk said:
sln333 said:
If Shepard dies, and it stays intact, the ending looks like this. This also makes me realize the Illusive Man wanted Shepard to kill the Collectors, save the base, and die trying. He's already got research ships at the base around 1:20. I bet he could get there all along, but it wasn't safe enough.
You know what that means... Joker is the new Shepard!
Been discussed. You can't export your ME2 save to ME3 if Shepard dies. I love that Bioware did this. It's basically like saying, "sorry, you fail. Just wasted ten hours playing the game because you didn't bother experiencing the majority of it. GG."
BUT i distinctly remember someone from bioware saying that you CAN export your save from ME2 to ME3 if your shepard dies.. but that ME3 will just be your funeral, and then it'll end... correct me if im wrong
 

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Makeshift Koala said:
Xzi said:
c0lefalk said:
sln333 said:
If Shepard dies, and it stays intact, the ending looks like this. This also makes me realize the Illusive Man wanted Shepard to kill the Collectors, save the base, and die trying. He's already got research ships at the base around 1:20. I bet he could get there all along, but it wasn't safe enough.
You know what that means... Joker is the new Shepard!
Been discussed. You can't export your ME2 save to ME3 if Shepard dies. I love that Bioware did this. It's basically like saying, "sorry, you fail. Just wasted ten hours playing the game because you didn't bother experiencing the majority of it. GG."
BUT i distinctly remember someone from bioware saying that you CAN export your save from ME2 to ME3 if your shepard dies.. but that ME3 will just be your funeral, and then it'll end... correct me if im wrong
LOL.
That'd be awesome is somebody didn't pick up that fact.

"Wtf! I'm so bad at this game, I die before I even get to play!".
 

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I dont think so..
yeah. Thats all i have to say lol

erm, here, just to lenghten the post up a bit: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/The-official-Garrus-fan-group