What is Love? Does it exist?

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GenericAmerican

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I was going to answer, but I read some other posts and it's just you arguing with another escapist.

Get over yourself, move on with life. If she 'loved' you but decided it wasn't worth it, I don't think she loved you.

And the way I view it, well if she don't want to be with me; screw her, she is missing out. It might hurt a little if you loved her, but if she doesn't return it, then move on.

And friends are easily replaceable? I would say, no they are not. True friends are irreplaceable, fake friends (which I suspect you have) are a dime a dozen.

Hell I am going to speak my mind from what I have read, maybe you are the fake friend. If you view all other people as merely things that can be tossed aside when inconvenient, and replaced easily; then you are by my definitions, a miserable asshole.

A true friend won't brush you off, a true friend can inconvenience you but you don't care, and you can inconvenience a true friend and they won't care.

A real friend will drive 30 minutes to pick you up after your ride left you hanging, a real friend will come over and you can hang out and do absolutely nothing, to the point of it being boring, but still have a good time. A real friend would back you up in a fight, and I have backed some friends up.

You seem like the kind of person that would say "sorry, I can't come pick you up. Gas is 3.50, not to mention its a long drive." "Sorry, hanging out with you it shit boring." "Sorry your mother died, your depressed right now and not any fun to be around; you no longer qualify as a friend."

I don't even know why I am typing this up; just reading this shit makes me pissed off. Seems to be a trend on the escapist lately, whiny idiots making threads like this; trying to logically comprehend why one insignificant bad event happened to them.

One of my best friends died in a car crash, had his entire head ripped from his body by the hood of another car flying through the windscreen, I've been turned down by girls, the house is being foreclosed, I'm pretty much in the poorhouse, my grades are slipping, I owe money to 'people'.

But I don't sit on the internet and ***** about it, and I don't(usually) start arguments when someone has contradictory views.
 

Fawcks

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Daystar Clarion said:
Again, I never said she didn't love you. Just that she didn't love you as much you loved her. Now I'm going to leave it there, I recognise that it's a sensitive topic, and I'm not going to try and analyse it any further, for that way leads to madness.

I apologise for any offense caused, it wasn't my intention.
My response remains the same as the last time you offered to step out. Your apology is too late, insincere, and forced to warrant any different evaluation. Good day, Sir.
 

Eldan

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24 years old, never felt any love. Don't think I will in the foreseeable future.

Don't think ever had any close friends either. Got through life well enough.

Can't miss what never existed.

Don't really understand idea either. Seems silly.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Love is playing Borderlands with your fiancee, then having sex with her.

It's awesome.

I suppose I should put something in there about getting on very well together, knowing each other very well, blah blah blah.

Love is just one of those things that's hard to explain. Those who've never been in love, are the least qualified to try and describe it.

When you fall in love, you know. It's as easy as that.
I envy you. You have an amazing fiancée.


Back to the original topic, 1st question:
-Baby don't hurt me
and second question:
-Obviously.
 

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GenericAmerican said:
I don't even know why I am typing this up; just reading this shit makes me pissed off. Seems to be a trend on the escapist lately, whiny idiots making threads like this; trying to logically comprehend why one insignificant bad even happened to them.
Ooooh, I love it when people hate me. Seeing the anger and hatred in people lets me know that I've been right about them all along.

You're a vicious sort, aren't you? You don't know someone, but it's just so... EASY to make generalizations, isn't it? So easy to label someone as this or that. So easy to say, "They're not like me, they're a bad person". I love it. Hate me more, please. Make up more stories to convince yourself you're right! That's the greatest pleasure.
 
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Fawcks said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Again, I never said she didn't love you. Just that she didn't love you as much you loved her. Now I'm going to leave it there, I recognise that it's a sensitive topic, and I'm not going to try and analyse it any further, for that way leads to madness.

I apologise for any offense caused, it wasn't my intention.
My response remains the same as the last time you offered to step out. Your apology is too late, insincere, and forced to warrant any different evaluation. Good day, Sir.
Damn. Just got a new idea for a thread though. 'What is an apology? Does it exist?"
 

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Fawcks said:
Cue endless .gif spam here.

To set this in it's proper context, I've always been a rather skeptic individual on subjects such as these. Love seems particularly odd.

I am increasingly becoming convinced that true love does not really exist. Love seems to be some emotion brewed up in our mind, likely to promote propagation of the species..
I'm not following you

"seems to be some emotion"
well love is an emotion so where is the confusion

"emotion brewed up in our mind"
all emotions are brewed up in the mind, they are chemicals

"likely to promote propagation of the species"
Human mating requires a pair of humans, love facilitates (rewards) human pair bonding (since we are only talking about romantic love) says nothing of loves existance or lack of.
 

Vern5

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...baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.

Lol couldn't stop myself.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Love is impossible to understand unless you've been in it. If you don't get it, you tend to try and analyse it too much and look incredibly stupid.

Unfortunately, it doesn't stop people from trying.
 

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Fawcks said:
Daystar Clarion said:
You loved her. She simply didn't love you, or at least not enough to do anything to stay with you. I know it sucks, but it happens.
Shut up! You don't know anything. Just... Don't act like you know me, or anything about me! Got it?
Pardon me but I believe this reaction sums up the thread's question.
 

Fawcks

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jamesworkshop said:
I'm not following you

"seems to be some emotion"
well love is an emotion so where is the confusion

"emotion brewed up in our mind"
all emotions are brewed up in the mind, they are chemicals

"likely to promote propagation of the species"
Human mating requires a pair of humans, love facilitates (rewards) human pair bonding (since we are only talking about romantic love) says nothing of loves existance or lack of.
I'm trying to differentiate love between the romantic love portrayed in society (Which isn't exclusive to two pair love; You can also "love" your mother or father), and the sensations it causes you to feel via chemical. However, do you really feel that way? When push comes to shove, do you stand to your ideals? I don't think so.
 

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There was a time when I thought like you did. I was bouncing from one short, miserable, relationship to another. Never comfortable, certainly never happy. I thought love was a crock of crap people made up because it was something I'd never experienced for myself. I couldn't imagine limiting myself to just one girl because none of them made me happy. Marriage was an utter joke.

I grew up on campy 80s movies that told me women want a hero who will hold the door open for them and give them flowers. When you act that way to real life women, they smirk, and then crush you under the feel of their shoe. I was convinced it was all a horrible game that I wasn't given the instruction manual for.

Then I met my current girlfriend. We've been in a relationship for three years now, getting married this Spring. I'd say.... YES. Love is real. There's no one I'd rather be with than my girlfriend. I can't IMAGINE someone I'd rather be with. Her flaws only make her more appealing to me. Where I'm angry she's happy. She's indecisive, I'm impulsive. I'm sit inside and play video games, she's lets go for a walk to no where in particular. I'm RPG and MMOs, she's Metal Gear Solid and Pokemon. We complete each other. I'd be utterly and completely lost without her. It's a feeling of completeness that you can't even begin to describe. It's like trying to describe color to someone who's never been able to see or taste to someone who's never eaten food.

All that pain I've gone through only makes me appreciate her more.

So, in short, yes love exists. When you find that person that's perfect for you, it's a very powerful feeling. It's more than "omg I want to sex you" or even "omg I want to be with you" it's a "My life would lose all meaning if you went away"
 

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Love is impossible to understand unless you've been in it. If you don't get it, you tend to try and analyse it too much and look incredibly stupid.

Unfortunately, it doesn't stop people from trying.
I've been in love.

It's impossible to understand a topic on a forum unless you've read it. If you haven't read it, you tend to try and respond based on only the OP, and you look incredibly stupid for your presumptions.

Unfortunately, doesn't stop people from trying...
 

TobiasMP

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I'm in a wonderful relationship, i love the girl i'm with...but i do agree with the opening post! Atleast the bit that true love is mostly made up by society;

I believe that humans have the same basic instincts as all other living creatures on this planet: To survive and reproduce. But humans have this weird emotion called jealousy, and maybe inheritance of family properties, knowing who's the father of your child and stuff like that had something to do with it too; that made people decide to choose and CLAIM someone to love and marry.

In personal experience; I am in love. But i could easily fall in love with others, as i have been in love with others in the past (I trust you all in not telling my girlfriend;) ). So does love exist? yes, there are partners who you will love more then others, but true love? no, it's a fairy tale
 

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Fawcks said:
GenericAmerican said:
I don't even know why I am typing this up; just reading this shit makes me pissed off. Seems to be a trend on the escapist lately, whiny idiots making threads like this; trying to logically comprehend why one insignificant bad even happened to them.
Ooooh, I love it when people hate me. Seeing the anger and hatred in people lets me know that I've been right about them all along.

You're a vicious sort, aren't you? You don't know someone, but it's just so... EASY to make generalizations, isn't it? So easy to label someone as this or that. So easy to say, "They're not like me, they're a bad person". I love it. Hate me more, please. Make up more stories to convince yourself you're right! That's the greatest pleasure.
You're right, it is incredibly easy to generalize. Incredibly easy to label someone without ever meeting them, and only reading a couple posts on the internet.

But I do not consider you a 'bad person' and I do not hate you; can't hate someone I have never met, unless we end up arguing until the mods decide to suspend us or something, which I do not want to happen.

And by 'make up more stories', I hope you don't think I was bullshitting with my examples.

My assumptions about you, and your friends may be completely untrue, I am only making assumptions from you're other posts.

But when I say what a true friend will do, I am citing examples from my life; not making things up.

(can't read the effin captcha)
 

Fawcks

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Darkauthor81 said:
I'd be utterly and completely lost without her. It's a feeling of completeness that you can't even begin to describe. It's like trying to describe color to someone who's never been able to see or taste to someone who's never eaten food.
Again, been in a similar relationship. We were supposed to be married this summer. Didn't happen. So it's not that I don't understand what love feels like, I'm wondering as to whether or not it's real; or, if it's going to last.

Many people feel exactly as you do about their fiance/significant other. Do you not think 80% of people you ask wouldn't describe their relationship with the one they love the same way? If so, why does marriage end in divorce over 90% of the time?

Because those feelings are, simply put, there to trick you (in my opinion). Once they fade, people don't stay together. I have the numbers to prove it.