What is to be considered an "unfair" weapon?

[the no name man]

the only gun i ever did not like was M16 in CoD4 but that's no big deal

 

[roblikestoskate]

I genuinely feel that I am the only one in the entire Haloverse that can say that I hate the BR. I cant stand to use it because of all the people who jump, crouch, crouch jump, toss nades and generally turn their sensitivity up to 10, crouch, and spin. While youre obviously thinking, "But isnt that the point? Dont get shot?", Im getting teabagged and having my corpse beaten to shit by some ten year old kid hyped up on candy and red bull. Why? Because weapons with scopes should be more powerful. If I miss, Im fucked. If I happen to hit them with a full clip to the chest, Im fucked. Again, why? Because its spread doesnt....well.....spread. Its TOO spot on. There is no leading with this thing. Back to the dodging thing. Its okay to jump and dodge, but there is a limit. When you touch down,dont immediately go airborne again. So yeah, I genuinely believe the BR to be unfair. Let the hate mail flow!

Halo 3 does have an unusually high emphasis on the battle rifle. If that's what the designers intended, so be it; we just have to shrug and find a game whose emphasis is more diverse. If it's not what they intended, I'm sure they'd appreciate some feedback.

 

[brainless906]

the only gun i ever did not like was M16 in CoD4 but that's no big deal

m16 kicked ass.
people say (itsss to accurate! its to strong!)
meh. then use something else, ill be the "noob" winning.
u know. the smart one.

 

[brainless906]

I genuinely feel that I am the only one in the entire Haloverse that can say that I hate the BR. I cant stand to use it because of all the people who jump, crouch, crouch jump, toss nades and generally turn their sensitivity up to 10, crouch, and spin. While youre obviously thinking, "But isnt that the point? Dont get shot?", Im getting teabagged and having my corpse beaten to shit by some ten year old kid hyped up on candy and red bull. Why? Because weapons with scopes should be more powerful. If I miss, Im fucked. If I happen to hit them with a full clip to the chest, Im fucked. Again, why? Because its spread doesnt....well.....spread. Its TOO spot on. There is no leading with this thing. Back to the dodging thing. Its okay to jump and dodge, but there is a limit. When you touch down,dont immediately go airborne again. So yeah, I genuinely believe the BR to be unfair. Let the hate mail flow!

Halo 3 does have an unusually high emphasis on the battle rifle. If that's what the designers intended, so be it; we just have to shrug and find a game whose emphasis is more diverse. If it's not what they intended, I'm sure they'd appreciate some feedback.

well said. i agree full heartedly.

 

[Glerken]

Snippidy

Sometimes it's harder than you think. If the awper is spawn camping, has reasonable cover, and about two spots he can shoot from, it's very hard to kill the awper. Believe me, I've done it, and had over 100 kills and about 5 deaths. Also, i'm sorry if I dodged some accusation, I obviously completely missed it. I actually still don't see it.

As noted, i have already placed my position on spawn camping on other posts, spawn camping is the only unacceptable kind of camping (merely an opinion). i mean somebody with a m4 could spawn camp and pwn. its nothing to do with weapon then. its the advantage of being there when you enemy is spawning.....

Actually the weapon makes all the difference. If you want to only camp spawn shortly, you should use a shotgun, if your near their spawn, use an ak47 or m4a1, and you'll get the most out of that camp, if you are a good distance, and you use an awp, you can plan to get much more kills then rushing in with a shotgun. Unless you have extremely easy access to their spawn, in which case the mapper sucks.

lol from the mouth of a true camper? (lol no hatin on ya dude. just sayin)

Ya, I've camped before. So? When having real competitiveness going on in the match, having a tactic that works(Though is frowned upon) instead of having a tactic that is "Fair" is much better. All is fair in love and war...simulations.

 

[Cliff_m85]

My favorite Newb gaming tip: Grand Theft Auto 4 Multiplayer.

Set to: Only sniper rifles.




Then pull out your knife and watch your score grow and grow.

 

[brainless906]

Snippidy

Sometimes it's harder than you think. If the awper is spawn camping, has reasonable cover, and about two spots he can shoot from, it's very hard to kill the awper. Believe me, I've done it, and had over 100 kills and about 5 deaths. Also, i'm sorry if I dodged some accusation, I obviously completely missed it. I actually still don't see it.

As noted, i have already placed my position on spawn camping on other posts, spawn camping is the only unacceptable kind of camping (merely an opinion). i mean somebody with a m4 could spawn camp and pwn. its nothing to do with weapon then. its the advantage of being there when you enemy is spawning.....

Actually the weapon makes all the difference. If you want to only camp spawn shortly, you should use a shotgun, if your near their spawn, use an ak47 or m4a1, and you'll get the most out of that camp, if you are a good distance, and you use an awp, you can plan to get much more kills then rushing in with a shotgun. Unless you have extremely easy access to their spawn, in which case the mapper sucks.

lol from the mouth of a true camper? (lol no hatin on ya dude. just sayin)

Ya, I've camped before. So? When having real competitiveness going on in the match, having a tactic that works(Though is frowned upon) instead of having a tactic that is "Fair" is much better. All is fair in love and war...simulations.

like i said, not hatin at all. i completely agree. camp, i wont call you a noob. its a tactic not a "noobish moove"

 

[keyton777]

the only gun i ever did not like was M16 in CoD4 but that's no big deal

why does no one like that gun?
what is it really that hard to nail someoen with three measly bullets?
or all of you to used to useing bullet hoses and just spray till everything is dead

 

[brainless906]

the only gun i ever did not like was M16 in CoD4 but that's no big deal

why does no one like that gun?
what is it really that hard to nail someoen with three measly bullets?
or all of you to used to useing bullet hoses and just spray till everything is dead

haha, you do bring a valid point....

 

[chromewarriorXIII]

Usually, in my opinion, most instakill rays are things like the rocket launcher in Halo and get used only by n00bs who have no skill, and consequently win. The majority of gamers would be too good to use such weapons, but not skilled enough to weild guns like said W1200 and kick ass with them, and thus end up loosing.

To be fair, I can't comment on it if it's not Halo, because while I'm not a fanboy, I don't own an Xbox and that's just what my friends play when we hang out. But to that end, the rocket launcher is not that broken. As of Halo 3 it doesn't track anymore, and if you time your jump right you can survive to regenerate your shield in all of five seconds.

I don't know... I got a pretty cheap shot with one once. I was playing with my friend and he swore that I hadn't hit him, so we watch the video of it and sure enough, the rocket collided with a wall 10 feet to his left while he was in mid-air and killed even though I believe he had full health.

I always thought the A.I.M.S. from 007: Nightfire was a little unfair, even though I love it. For those who don't know, it's got burst fire and an alternate grenade launcher shot. Plus it has a scope.

 

[brainless906]

Usually, in my opinion, most instakill rays are things like the rocket launcher in Halo and get used only by n00bs who have no skill, and consequently win. The majority of gamers would be too good to use such weapons, but not skilled enough to weild guns like said W1200 and kick ass with them, and thus end up loosing.

To be fair, I can't comment on it if it's not Halo, because while I'm not a fanboy, I don't own an Xbox and that's just what my friends play when we hang out. But to that end, the rocket launcher is not that broken. As of Halo 3 it doesn't track anymore, and if you time your jump right you can survive to regenerate your shield in all of five seconds.

I don't know... I got a pretty cheap shot with one once. I was playing with my friend and he swore that I hadn't hit him, so we watch the video of it and sure enough, the rocket collided with a wall 10 feet to his left while he was in mid-air and killed even though I believe he had full health.

I always thought the A.I.M.S. from 007: Nightfire was a little unfair, even though I love it. For those who don't know, it's got burst fire and an alternate grenade launcher shot. Plus it has a s

<3 to the A.I.M.S

 

[darktheif28]

if the weapons in the game its fair no matter what.

Exactly what i think, yet people cannot seem to fallow this simple logic....

yes, how can people ***** about weapons if there in the game

not exactly. that's a logical fallacy. see my comment on page 2, please. we cannot assume a weapon is fair just because it's in the game. you are assuming that the game has been balanced to meet it's intended emphasis and gameplay. the game may be fair in the sense that anyone can pick up a particular weapon, but if that weapon's advantages vastly outweigh it's disadvantages and there are no viable counter-strategies, we say that this weapon becomes the emphasis of the game. if that's the designer's intention, fine. if not, we have a poorly balanced game.

now, in many situations, there are viable strategies for dealing with said weapon but those tactics may not be immediately obvious to some players, creating frustration.

good point, but in most if not all games with weapons, even the most skilled person can be killed.

 

[the no name man]

the only gun i ever did not like was M16 in CoD4 but that's no big deal

why does no one like that gun?
what is it really that hard to nail someoen with three measly bullets?
or all of you to used to useing bullet hoses and just spray till everything is dead

haha, you do bring a valid point....

i do not use it because i just don't like it, its to easy to kill with but i might think that because i don't care about my K/D but w/e you are entitled to your opinion

 

[The Wooster]

I mean really. You hear it all the time, every game there is always a gun that somebody is hating on, because only "teh noobz" be's using that gun. One classic example is the AWP, or for that matter any 1 hit 1 kill rifle. Its part of the game. in fact most games require you to play for a time before you can access these weapons. So why is it that everyone hates on them? Regarding all of that is there truly a "noob weapon" if so what makes it a "noob" weapon. In my humble opinion there should be no arguments over such a retarded thing. So i use a AWP, how does that make me any less skilled? I had to fight for the money to buy the AWP did i not? answering my own question, i believe that there is no such thing as a "nooby" weapon. what do yall think?

It's all about balance, the AWP isn't a balanced weapon because of the way counterstrike handles movement and shooting. Spinning around and popping someone in the foot with the AWP isn't very hard at all because there's no loss of accuracy if you fire while moving (scoped) or if you fire after spinning around in a 360 circle. That means the AWP is just as useful at close range as it is at long range, which, in my opinion, makes it a broken part of the game.

 

[Soap6]

Anything that can kill someone.

Isn't that pretty much everything?

 

[SilentHunter7]

Anything that can kill me. Because I am so obviously superior to all who have ever held a gamepad, anything that allows someone to beat me is unbalanced, and needs to be changed by the devs.

 

[Izakflashman]

The only unfair weapon is knowledge, and lots of spair time people have to play games, so when you come along to have a bit of a good time you get shat on. Ha ha.

 

[brainless906]

I mean really. You hear it all the time, every game there is always a gun that somebody is hating on, because only "teh noobz" be's using that gun. One classic example is the AWP, or for that matter any 1 hit 1 kill rifle. Its part of the game. in fact most games require you to play for a time before you can access these weapons. So why is it that everyone hates on them? Regarding all of that is there truly a "noob weapon" if so what makes it a "noob" weapon. In my humble opinion there should be no arguments over such a retarded thing. So i use a AWP, how does that make me any less skilled? I had to fight for the money to buy the AWP did i not? answering my own question, i believe that there is no such thing as a "nooby" weapon. what do yall think?

It's all about balance, the AWP isn't a balanced weapon because of the way counterstrike handles movement and shooting. Spinning around and popping someone in the foot with the AWP isn't very hard at all because there's no loss of accuracy if you fire while moving (scoped) or if you fire after spinning around in a 360 circle. That means the AWP is just as useful at close range as it is at long range, which, in my opinion, makes it a broken part of the game.

Pardon my language but are you FUCKING kidding me?! my god when was the last time you ever played CSS?! if you even more the slightest the AWP is incredibly inaccurate! i mean if you jump the damned bullet has the ability to go strait up or strait left/right!

 

[The Wooster]

Not while scoped kiddo.

 

[brainless906]

Not while scoped kiddo.

it is less drastic, but still is off target by a massive amount. I suppose i really have no place to argue an opinion, and quite an educated one at that. Still, should one be called a noob for using it? ridiculed and hated? so the bastard has an AWP, he earned it did he not?