What is your opinion on the Death Penalty and why?

[Spygon]

I have i will not go into too much detail but i have been at a point where i was in a situation where it was 50/50 if i lived or died and it was the scariest time of my life.Think about it you die and your gone there is nothing No dreams,no thoughts and no memories you just don't exist anymore.Think of everthing all the people you have known and met.All of the book and films you have enjoyed it is all swept away when your dead.The only thing left is obilivion and you won't even know obilivion as your be dead.Also if you of any faith and you have murdered your normally expecting to go to your faiths version of hell.So i know which one i would rather be.

The situations are not really comparable. By virtue of the fact you're posting on a video games forum, I'm guessing you're a fairly young (ie pre middle-age) person, which means you still (hopefully!) have a lot of life left in you. That's a lot of stuff to look forward to. I'm 23, and if I were in a situation where it was 50/50 whether I lived or died you bet your ass I'd be scared too.

However, in this scenario you have nothing to look forward to except many, many years of boredom and not seeing your loved on. Memories are all you'll have. In that case, where it was a choice between oblivion and many years of torturous boredom, don't you think you'd look at things differently?

I can see what you are saying also i am 23 myself weirdly enough lol.But at the point of crime most people will be weighing up the reward vs risk.So if your there at your house thinking either do i not do the crime and carry on with my long life (as most criminals are young to middle age) or do it possibly get caught then am killed never to experince anything ever again.I feel that is alot more of a threat than i will be locked in a room to be given food and will get to see my family/friends from time to time as even people that are doing life sentences are allowed vistors rarely.

 

[SonicWaffle]

I did not say i was offended. Where in my original post does it say I personally was offended? You asked for my opinion. I gave my opinion, which was I don't support it. Read it properly next time. And I'll go where I want, thank you very much.

Eh, don't bother rationalising. I'm guessing he either has a very poor grasp of the English language, or he's trolling. Observe the reaction I got for pointing out that he'd mistaken an entirely valid point for a conspiracy theory and replied to the wrong guy;

Thanx for Lowering the Conversation.. And he did mention 9/11 now did he Im just saying that ppl (like you) Are makin a big deal out of 3 numbers.. Just said i dident want that here -_- Plz Go play some Xbox.. or wha ever you 10 year olds do.. Just trying To get some studie points here.. By asking some ppl there opinion..

 

[linwolf]

Against it, no matter who the person is. Killing in cold blood can never be justified.

 

[oktalist]

Keep that 9/11 stuff at home ok, I dont want that here on the Forum, Becaus B4 you know it i have 50-60 ppl talkin about 9/11 Conspiracy -_- DOnt whant that.. And i think its 90% Dum R*dneck Horse Crap...

I'm sorry, what part of my post constitutes a conspiracy of any form?

How about you don't insult ME with those kind of accusations.

He, Just saying.. If you get offended by it.. its your problem.. Im just saying i dont want that stuff on the Forum.. If you cant deal with it.. Stay of the forums ok, Its the Internet...

kman123 didn't mention 9/11 or anything of the sort.

And it's incredibly hypocritical to first complain about something someone supposedly said, and then when they complain about something you said, to reply with "if you don't like it GTFO."

OT: The death penalty serves no logical purpose save for meeting some psychological desire of the rest of society. Most people who commit crimes like that have a mental instability of some kind for which they should be treated if possible. What if your child was sentenced to death? I find it to be just as morally reprehensible as any crime.

 

[dickseverywhere]

no because
a: mistakes do unfortunately get made and death is pretty hard to undo.
b: just being dead actually seems like less punishment than life in prison.
c: killing someone who is too insane/retarded to understand the set of rules you're holding them accountable to is not exactly fair.

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I have i will not go into too much detail but i have been at a point where i was in a situation where it was 50/50 if i lived or died and it was the scariest time of my life.Think about it you die and your gone there is nothing No dreams,no thoughts and no memories you just don't exist anymore.Think of everthing all the people you have known and met.All of the book and films you have enjoyed it is all swept away when your dead.The only thing left is obilivion and you won't even know obilivion as your be dead.Also if you of any faith and you have murdered your normally expecting to go to your faiths version of hell.So i know which one i would rather be.

id imagine the majority of murdering psychopaths are either none-religious and not the sort to be particularly bothered by death or religious of the say sorry to the sky fairy and it all goes away variety. either way they're unlikely to see any post-death punishment headed their way.

 

[p3t3r]

well the death penalty is more expensive so i don't see what the point of spending all that money is

 

[mParadox]

Want my opinion?

Ok...

Spoiler

DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!

Seriously anyone who does these sort of crimes deserve to die.

Stealing and mugging should be with a penalty. nothing else.

 

[Spygon]

no because
a: mistakes do unfortunately get made and death is pretty hard to undo. as i mentioned earlier it would have to be nearly impossible for the criminal to be innocent like if he was catch on cctv doing it or had a number of witnesses.
b: just being dead actually seems like less punishment than life in prison. Me and Sonicwaffle were discussing this view so if you want to see my view read my post as i am not writing it all over again lol
c: killing someone who is too insane/retarded to understand the set of rules you're holding them accountable to is not exactly fair. Really it is not fair? do you want to tell the person who was murdered that it wasnt fair for them to blame the person who killed them because they were too insane/retarded to know killing people is against the "rules"

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I have i will not go into too much detail but i have been at a point where i was in a situation where it was 50/50 if i lived or died and it was the scariest time of my life.Think about it you die and your gone there is nothing No dreams,no thoughts and no memories you just don't exist anymore.Think of everthing all the people you have known and met.All of the book and films you have enjoyed it is all swept away when your dead.The only thing left is obilivion and you won't even know obilivion as your be dead.Also if you of any faith and you have murdered your normally expecting to go to your faiths version of hell.So i know which one i would rather be.

id imagine the majority of murdering psychopaths are either none-religious and not the sort to be particularly bothered by death or religious of the say sorry to the sky fairy and it all goes away variety. either way they're unlikely to see any post-death punishment headed their way.

You actually be surprised but anyway i am not religous and i fear death as being dead in my view is nothing.That scares the crap out of me.

 

[joshuaayt]

I am... conflicted, for the first time in memory. I am unsure, now, of my stance on the Death Penalty. I have pondered it much over the past few weeks, immediately proceeding a debate I had with my sister, and I can answer, confidently, that I believe that the Death Penalty is, at very least, effective. Just? Necessary? I cannot say.

 

[Gabbit]

I am totally against the death sentence, America is one of the few modern first world countries that still has the death sentence, its barbaric and inhumane. It also costs American tax payers far more then a life prison sentence. The main issue I have with the death sentence is that it allows no room for error in the justice system, and to support it is to believe that the justice system of the particular government or area is infallible.

 

[Jedoro]

-The justice system needs a serious overhaul before the death penalty can be effective
-None of this "unlimited appeals" crap after the overhaul. Once guilty, a US soldier is called in to blow your head off ASAP
-Should be three strikes: after the second time you go to prison, any felony earns you the death sentence

Yes, people who maybe commit one crime should get rehab, but serious or career offenders should just be done away with.

 

[Daipire]

Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

And when's the last time you heard of a blind rapist?
NEVER.

Yay for the death penalty!

 

[Belbe]

Double edged sword. Sure it'd be great not to have to spend all the tax money keeping convicts alive, and giving them better lives than hobos, and some people just don't deserve to enjoy breathing - but who knows how many innocent people will be killed off at the same time?

End of the day, places with the death penalty already isn't exactly crime-free so, meh.

 

[dickseverywhere]

Spoiler: snip

no because
a: mistakes do unfortunately get made and death is pretty hard to undo. as i mentioned earlier it would have to be nearly impossible for the criminal to be innocent like if he was catch on cctv doing it or had a number of witnesses.
b: just being dead actually seems like less punishment than life in prison. Me and Sonicwaffle were discussing this view so if you want to see my view read my post as i am not writing it all over again lol
c: killing someone who is too insane/retarded to understand the set of rules you're holding them accountable to is not exactly fair. Really it is not fair? do you want to tell the person who was murdered that it wasnt fair for them to blame the person who killed them because they were too insane/retarded to know killing people is against the "rules"

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I have i will not go into too much detail but i have been at a point where i was in a situation where it was 50/50 if i lived or died and it was the scariest time of my life.Think about it you die and your gone there is nothing No dreams,no thoughts and no memories you just don't exist anymore.Think of everthing all the people you have known and met.All of the book and films you have enjoyed it is all swept away when your dead.The only thing left is obilivion and you won't even know obilivion as your be dead.Also if you of any faith and you have murdered your normally expecting to go to your faiths version of hell.So i know which one i would rather be.

id imagine the majority of murdering psychopaths are either none-religious and not the sort to be particularly bothered by death or religious of the say sorry to the sky fairy and it all goes away variety. either way they're unlikely to see any post-death punishment headed their way.

You actually be surprised but anyway i am not religous and i fear death as being dead in my view is nothing.That scares the crap out of me.

to me death is nothing to fear precisely because it is non-existence, why would i fear something im not going to experience?

-The justice system needs a serious overhaul before the death penalty can be effective
-None of this "unlimited appeals" crap after the overhaul. Once guilty, a US soldier is called in to blow your head off ASAP
-Should be three strikes: after the second time you go to prison, any felony earns you the death sentence

Yes, people who maybe commit one crime should get rehab, but serious or career offenders should just be done away with.

so if i get caught caught 3 times with a bag of pot i deserve to die? you're either an idiot or a monster.

 

[Steppin Razor]

I support capital punishment, but only in cases where it's been proven beyond doubt that the person facing trial is the actual murderer/rapist. Circumstantial evidence pointing to a suspect that had motive and is likely to have committed the murder? Just jail time. The person may have had reason and evidence may point to them, but there's always the chance that they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Video footage, fingerprints on the murder weapon, clothing with the victim's blood on it or DNA evidence in the case of a rape? String them up. And if they were a child molester, something far more slow and painful.

 

[zombiesinc]

We don't have the death penalty here, so I'm not familiar with it.

Even so, I'm very torn. I feel it's a good choice for those actually guilty of a serious crime, obviously like murder. But I've heard many stories of people being wrongly accused and sentenced to death which leaves me feeling it's a flawed system that doesn't work often enough.

 

[orangecharger]

I'm a journalist and in my experience (watching recordings, statements, talking to lawyers etc.) most really bad serial killers actually prefer a painless death more than being stuck in jail for life, and a very widely misunderstood fact is that the death penalty is ACTUALLY more expensive than life in prison. I think very bad criminals should be put in small cells to rot and go insane, that is a proper punishment.
Some of my peers also believe that the death penalty causes oppression in society, this I haven't actually researched myself though so I have nothing to say about that.

I am interested how the death penalty is more expensive? Can you elaborate? Life imprisonment of a 30 year old gives you 50 years of paying for 3 squares a day, and let's say it's one guard for every 50 prisoners for easy numbers. That's one guard's yearly salary dedicated to watching this guy over his sentence. Not to mention the upkeep on the facility he's imprisoned in.

Last I checked rope wasn't all that expensive. Is lethal injection really more expensive than feeding that guy for 50 years? Or is the more expensive part the fact that the legal system allows the prisoner to appeal his sentence for 50 years first before being killed as an old man. So you have the 50 years of food etc, plus court fees, plus the injection?

 

[meowchef]

People who murder another person when it has nothing to do with war do not deserve life.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Too merciful. I'd rather see those that commit serious crimes (murder, rape etc.) suffer for it and suffer severely.