What should Treyarch do to innovate in Black Ops 2

[MetallicaRulez0]

I think it'd be very innovative if Treyarch launched their entire headquarters into the Sun.

Black Ops 2 will not be as good as any entry in the MW series. That's obvious. Treyarch has shown a complete lack of understanding when it comes to building a solid game engine. See: bad hit detection in every title they've ever made.

Incoming BlOps fanboys saying "hit detection is fine, L2P".

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Since killing Russians is in, let us play Mujahideen guerillas in Aghanistan.

Shit, if they have to be American protags, let us play CIA operatives operating in conjunction with the Mujahideen.

Oh snap, that would be awesome. "For this mission, you have to deliver this shipment of guns to the Afgani insurgens, teach them how to ambush patrols, make IED's and use rocket launchers, and while you're at it broker an arms deal with Iraq, we want to give them some weapons of mass destruction."

Honestly, I think there's not much you could do with the formula without totally ruining it, but there is plenty that can be tightened up on:
Larger maps, so snipers are actually able to snipe with.
A more intuitive spawning system, so you don't get constantly blindsided by having the guy you shot respawn 5 feet behind you
Better balanced weapons. Give each weapon one major strength and one major weakness, so you don't end up with having 400 available guns, but everyone only using that one assault rifle that has been given the highest damage, accuracy, rate of fire and range of any other gun.
more balanced grenades/rocket launchers. Unfortunately with regenerating health a grenade that doesn't outright kill somebody is practically useless, so they have been given rediculous ranges that lead to grenade spamming the tiny maps a stupidly effective strategy. This could be combated by having some sort of secondary damage, like "shrapnel damage" that gives you bleeding damage, so your maximum health is permanently reduced until you perform a complicated action to specially heal yourself (e.g. bandaging)
I would also like to see overall damage reduced and maybe movement speed increased (so you have a bit of a chance to defend yourself against someone else if they open fire first)

 

[Iwata]

I think it'd be very innovative if Treyarch launched their entire headquarters into the Sun.

Black Ops 2 will not be as good as any entry in the MW series. That's obvious. Treyarch has shown a complete lack of understanding when it comes to building a solid game engine. See: bad hit detection in every title they've ever made.

Incoming BlOps fanboys saying "hit detection is fine, L2P".

Umm... ok. Nice "incoming" thing and all, I'm sure that helps your argument.

In any case, I enjoyed the Black Ops campaign. Certainly more than the one in MW2. It felt better, more frenetic, with better maps. Less spectacular, but certainly better paced.

 

[Jakub324]

How about a plot that is not beyond stupid? (Russia invades all of Europe... sure)

It's not that far fetched, actually. Russia has over a million troops, and an ultranationalist version would probably push that up by another 500,000 or so. Assume the Russians hit the Americans with, say, 950,000 in MW2. That means they'd have 550,000 left to take a Europe that no longer had nearly as many troops as would be necessary. And let's not forget about the troops Makarov could've committed. He must have had a few thousand willing to do what regular soldiers would not.
OT: I'd like to see customisable facepaint and gun camouflage. I'm talking about saying 'Yeah, I like the pattern you get with Berlin camo, but what if I change the colours to, say, red and black?' (which I swear they promised in Black Ops).

 

[Iwata]

It would also be interesting the see the other side. I have a lot of "what if" WWIII books, but one of my favorites is "Red Army", which shows an invasion of Europe from the perspective of several Soviet characters, who feel justified in their invasion, and see it as a preemptive strike to an inevitable NATO attack.

The book follows Soviet ground soldiers, ground attack pilots, political commissars, generals and so on, as they take on several European nations.

The Americans enter the ground war just as the book ends and NATO surrenders. This would make for a far more interesting game than yet another "stop the evil Soviets" game.

It says a lot that historically speaking, NATO had several plans for a strike against Soviet forces, but the Soviets never actually planned for an invasion of Europe.

 

[tacotrainwreck]

How about NDAA in America going out of control, the government branding most of Americans as terrorists, and then you can shoot Americans all day long? Heck, add a few sections where you're allowed to control drone aircraft and are able to launch hellfire missiles into 'civilian' crowds. Is it a terrible suggestion? Probably. But I'm not sure how many more foreigners are left for them to kill by the hundreds.

 

[Skops]

Oh jesus, now that the MW series is over we're looking to Treyarch to continue on with the new series?!? ... It's only gunna get worse from here people.

 

[telocaster]

They could:
- a new engine
- focus on the single player
- interesting and fun to use weapons with lots of variety
- stop glorifying america (I say this as a resident of the u.s)
- sprawling non linear levels
- no regenerating health
- vehicle sections that are not rail shooters
- stop being realistic

 

[llew]

how about they stop with COD altogether and make a different game altogether?

 

[Tiger Sora]

Give you an option to mute all mics so you don't have to listen to them even if they come in after you switched it on.

Not much else is gona be changed but can they at least do that.

 

[guitarsniper]

I've been thinking about this for a while and it probably won't be in Black Ops 2, but i would love to see a Call of Duty type of FPS set during the Winter War and Continuation War between Finland and Russia. That'd be pretty damn awesome. That or a revolutionary war FPS. You fire once and then get to spend 30 seconds reloading

 

[Findlebob]

Give you the at least 30 seconds break without shooting once in the game.

As a great man once said "if the action neaver lets up then we have nothing to compare it to".

 

[Jake0fTrades]

You know what would be a huge step in the right direction?

Ending the series.

 

[teh_Canape]

Narrow FOV ftw!

lest we forget the buttfuck twitchy aiming

 

[chadachada123]

What they could do to be innovative is to not release it this year. Give it a 3-year development cycle, because otherwise we get shit like MW3, which is basically MW2, given that MW2 was only MW1.5.

I'm sick of $60 expansions. Either give me a full, new game, or make it cost a fair goddamn amount.

That said, MW3 was my last entry in the series. I'm disappointed that I spent $60 on it, because I truly don't see myself ever touching it again, and I'm certainly not going to throw them an additional $50/70 for 12 new maps.

 

[Gizmo1990]

This plot only works if all of Europe is run by monkeys.

Have you watched the news lately?

OT: I would like to see them do something different for once.

 

[Westaway]

Anything but the currency system. I have nothing else to add because I'm not buying any CoD g as mes again, especially Treyarch games. Treyarch sucks at making games big time.

 

[TerribleAssassin]

Well, here's my World of War fanboy reasoning

1)Don't make the main character Superman, the reason I thought WaW was superior to BO is because both of the main characters weren't portrayed as some kind of Man of Steel, besides the Russian's tendency not to stay dead, making the campaign feel epic due to the fact that if you got stabbed in a cut scene their was a moment wondering whether you'd make it.

2)Bring back Kiefer Sunderland, fairly self explanatory.

3)Adopt MewThree's MP, it isn't perfect, but it's the best in a CoD's if you ignore Mew and WaW.

 

[Chunga the Great]

Stop making CoD altogether. They butchered it with MW2, and CoD4 was the last truly great CoD game. If I had to say what will improve the game, BRING BACK 3, 5, 7 KILLSTREAKS!!! For the love of god, I am sick of watching people camp in the corner of a map and still manage to get all the kills because they saved up for a Tactical Godzilla or some other bullshit. The best KS in CoD4 wasn't that good, WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE! Killstreaks should help players get a few extra kills, not end the frickin game.