Are we assuming 15 year olds are incompetent? At 15, I could have made this decision for myself.
What the hell is wrong with the world?
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You called this guy a rapist and then went on to use strawman "brutal murderer" arguments. This is why the thread went the way it did.PrinceoN said:
But to answer your question, she is going out with this guy because she likes him. The reason she is not going out with you is because she doesn't like you... well.. not like that anyway... but I am sure you are good friends....
You may be jumping to conclusions about the nature of the 20-year old. There is nothing to suggest that he isn't an honest or good person, and I don't think love should really have an age limit.
I WILL, however, admit that the prospect of a 20 year old dating a 15 year old is a little creepy and questionable. If he is a good, honest person who actually does care for her and has no ill intentions, then all well and good. If not... I hope things don't go as badly as they could, for her sake.
As I said, you may be jumping to conclusions, but in this case it is fairly understandable. As quick as I usually am to ridicule the perception most of society has on things like this, even I gotta admit, that is a fairly concerning age gap.
I will also admit that the "He's never done anything wrong to me, and how he lives his life is his business." thing is FULL of holes. Again, if he IS a good person, then fine. But while it is perfectly fine to assume a person is bad within the first hour or so of meeting them, it should never be assumed that someone who seems nice will STAY nice. To somewhat change something else a certain intelligent individual has said as he spoke about Condemned 2.
But anyway, what I'm basically saying;
The age gap is a little disconcerting, but if there's no ill intention on either of their parts and they're both alright with it, then it's not wrong.
I WILL, however, admit that the prospect of a 20 year old dating a 15 year old is a little creepy and questionable. If he is a good, honest person who actually does care for her and has no ill intentions, then all well and good. If not... I hope things don't go as badly as they could, for her sake.
As I said, you may be jumping to conclusions, but in this case it is fairly understandable. As quick as I usually am to ridicule the perception most of society has on things like this, even I gotta admit, that is a fairly concerning age gap.
I will also admit that the "He's never done anything wrong to me, and how he lives his life is his business." thing is FULL of holes. Again, if he IS a good person, then fine. But while it is perfectly fine to assume a person is bad within the first hour or so of meeting them, it should never be assumed that someone who seems nice will STAY nice. To somewhat change something else a certain intelligent individual has said as he spoke about Condemned 2.
But anyway, what I'm basically saying;
The age gap is a little disconcerting, but if there's no ill intention on either of their parts and they're both alright with it, then it's not wrong.
This is off topic but why is it that teens seem to have such anger against any form of authority?
I didn't say that. I said that he may not have many personal flaws, particularly the ones that would sour a relationship.lord canti said:
Nobody is perfect.
I know what I should have said!
The world isn't as bitter as you, that's what's wrong with the world, right?!
The world isn't as bitter as you, that's what's wrong with the world, right?!
Wasn't there something about having a chemical makeup in their brains that is related to their changing hormones, making it hard for them to accept orders or something? I... I can't remember where I saw it, or I'd link it.lord canti said:
I may have dreamed it, in fact, but it sounds plausible.
I find this topic idiotic, but then again in Norway the age of consent is 15.
If we're going to ***** about stuff like age of consent, though, I'd rather have us all go through a yearly "maturity" test, or an interview, or something, where we're all properly assigned a mental age, not a physical one, because my god, this thread is spammed with people who say they are way beyond twenty and still whine and formulate arguments in a manner that would befit a fifteen year old trying to convince his overprotective mother that a stripper is a great birthday present. I can't fathom the social stigma that's presented here, a five year difference is insignificant. Had the issue been a ten year difference? Screw that; that's the age difference between my parents. I'll personally be mildly concerned when one of the two parties is twenty and the other's fifty, and even then I won't pretend to care because it ain't my bloody business.
My two cents.
If we're going to ***** about stuff like age of consent, though, I'd rather have us all go through a yearly "maturity" test, or an interview, or something, where we're all properly assigned a mental age, not a physical one, because my god, this thread is spammed with people who say they are way beyond twenty and still whine and formulate arguments in a manner that would befit a fifteen year old trying to convince his overprotective mother that a stripper is a great birthday present. I can't fathom the social stigma that's presented here, a five year difference is insignificant. Had the issue been a ten year difference? Screw that; that's the age difference between my parents. I'll personally be mildly concerned when one of the two parties is twenty and the other's fifty, and even then I won't pretend to care because it ain't my bloody business.
My two cents.
HMMM I'm not sure but I sounds like you being sarcastic. and if your not then that is really interesting I might have to look into it.Chipperz said:
ok, i didnt call him a rapist. learn to read. furthermore, i even admitted in my first post that i took things out of proportion. so dont call me out on that.cuddly_tomato said:
also, i dont have feelings for this girl, so get off that point already. i dont have feelings for any and every girl i try to defend/help. sorry to disappoint you.
do you have any evidence to point out the guy is a jerk?? do you have proof that said guy is an abominable person, a rapist and a pedophile?!?!? if not, then i´m sorry, but your hate is based in stupid assumptions (dont want to offend, its just my oppinion)PrinceoN said:
let me put you my case
a friend (girl) that is 15 years old dated a guy 10 years older than her because well, he was clean (no drugs of any kind) funny, charming and handsome, he also worked and earned some money so she used to "leech" him out of that, he payed some of her schooling, her celphone, her clothes, he was her taxi, her chaperon (when her mom didnt wanted her to go out at night she would alow if the guy was going with her), he was, for the lack of a better word, a gentleman
now, the girl was obviously taking advantage of his kindness and naivety
do you think people should bludgeon to death the guy or the girl?? he was at a disadvantage because he loved her, and she didn´t she was just with him for his money and all the perks he brought, she even cheated on him a couple of times with guys her age, who is the victim here????
my thoughts, i think you are just jealous... but thats my opinion
also, when she is 20 he will be 30, when she turns 30 he will be 40, when she turns 40 he will be 50... where is the difference in there!?!? my father in law is over 10 years from his wife, so what!? you are angry because she is underage!?!? man... get a grip, she is old enough to decide what to do
so i come back, you are either Jealous because you want to date her or you simply think too much into the "age difference"
BTW: when i was 22 my ex whife was 17 and we got pregnant, does that make me a pedophile??, a jerk? do i deserve to die?? i dont think so my friend.
If you didn't have any feelings towards someone you try to help/defend, then you wouldn't be helping/defending them.PrinceoN said:
I'm totally for PrinceoN on this, to hell with these immature posters, what the fuck does it matter if he fancies her or not anyway, what he has described is wrong? it doesnt matter how nice the guy is, he is a grown man messing around with a silly underage girl, she is likely to end up doing something she is not ready for and will likely later regret.
a guy i know knocked up a girl three years his junior (he is 17 she is 14), where i live at least this was seen as disgusting and totally unacceptable. and so it should be there, these girls are too young to understand what they are getting in to, and as such it is perfectly right to voice concern.
to be honest what he has described is absolutely deplorable, hwoever once she reaches the age of consent it is no longer anyones business unless she is in physical danger.
in my, humble, opinion
a guy i know knocked up a girl three years his junior (he is 17 she is 14), where i live at least this was seen as disgusting and totally unacceptable. and so it should be there, these girls are too young to understand what they are getting in to, and as such it is perfectly right to voice concern.
to be honest what he has described is absolutely deplorable, hwoever once she reaches the age of consent it is no longer anyones business unless she is in physical danger.
in my, humble, opinion