What will Bioware's excuse be?

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The87Italians

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Khushal said:
If everyone dies I can imagine them being killed off in the intro of the game...

The intro will be a ''mission'' where you go down to a planet (to save __________ from reapers or whatever) and slowly you realize it is a trap and getting out is impossible (don't worry lads it isn't) you go from one team member to the next so you can save them and escape (see everyone was cut off, when you landed) and each of them dies just when you enter the area/room...
They die in a cutscene so you can do nothing to change this outcome. When you finish off the enemies that killed the team member a new cutscene comes up where you have the ''last conversation evar'' with the team member and then you move on to the next one where the procedure will continue...
In the end you probably end up with a cutscene where the only team member (or team members) that did survive have to sacrifice themselves so you can get away. Because Shepard is much more important and so on and so on....

Which team members that are present in the intro will depend on if you have your ME2 save games, if not the game will just pick the standard ones...

That's my theory anyway...
That would be a REALLY depressing way to start the game. I would probably have to put it down for a bit just so I could recover.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Mr_Universal said:
Well, I think that they will make it optional for you to load in your saved games from ME2, and then it will correct itself from the data there, for example who died in the final mission and who did not.
Hmmm... Interesting thought... What happens if you import a save in which Shepard died? o_o
You can't. It has already been stated that this ending is non-cannon.

And, as far as I can tell, most of the characters from ME2 will be in ME3. The reason the romance characters from 1 were not in your party was because Bioware didn't want them going out and getting killed before the last game. I honestly suspect most of the cast will be killed during the third game however.

Because the Reapers have been built up for too long to not take most of the cast with them on the way out. I suspect you'll be given a "You or Her" choice before the end.
 

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The87Italians said:
Khushal said:
If everyone dies I can imagine them being killed off in the intro of the game...

The intro will be a ''mission'' where you go down to a planet (to save __________ from reapers or whatever) and slowly you realize it is a trap and getting out is impossible (don't worry lads it isn't) you go from one team member to the next so you can save them and escape (see everyone was cut off, when you landed) and each of them dies just when you enter the area/room...
They die in a cutscene so you can do nothing to change this outcome. When you finish off the enemies that killed the team member a new cutscene comes up where you have the ''last conversation evar'' with the team member and then you move on to the next one where the procedure will continue...
In the end you probably end up with a cutscene where the only team member (or team members) that did survive have to sacrifice themselves so you can get away. Because Shepard is much more important and so on and so on....

Which team members that are present in the intro will depend on if you have your ME2 save games, if not the game will just pick the standard ones...

That's my theory anyway...
That would be a REALLY depressing way to start the game. I would probably have to put it down for a bit just so I could recover.
while sad this would be an ingenious way to do it ...

i would prefer to keep the love interest and essential characters alive if that were to happen like tali , legion and garrus ... and of curse an option for new love interests during this final hour of the universe.. although i would love not to have the annoying paragon /renegade karma settings ... in the end all it does it force players to stick to only one option to be able to use the higher choices at the end of the game ...
 

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I like to think that it wont happen. What would the point in making all these different variables if they were just going to scrap the team in the third game?

I think the original squad members will have a bigger role than they did in the second. I think a few members from the second game will be prominent. However yes, it will be difficult. In one of my playthroughs only a few team mates survived. In the other playthrough they all survived. That is a lot of variables.

I assume the chunk of the main characters in ME 3 will be new characters.
 

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teutonicman said:
Well I'm going to assume that Mass Effect 3 takes place a couple years after ME 2(this is my hypothesis and I can assume a time jump if I want). In that time:
Thane could have died via his disease.
Samara took off because she's a Justicar.
Legion could have headed back to the Geth to help with Reaper preparations and/or act as a liaison between the Geth and Organics.
Grunt could go to Tuchanka to help with breeding/ clan growth.
Mordin could have unforunately died since Salarians don't live much past 40 and he was already in his late 30s.
Tali could leave to become more involved with the Admiralty Board and reaper preparations.
Garrus could leave to try and form another merc band and fight more injustice.
I don't know about the rest of the characters though.
I'd actually be satisfied with this explanation. Except for Garrus; I believe he and Shep have been through enough that they're thick as thieves.
 

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Byr0m said:
If I may digress slightly, I personally would like to know how BioWare plans to explain us being able to change our appearence/class in the third game. I can only see either:
- Another accident/near-death/revival circumstance
- Bioware FORCING you to buy ME1/ME2 (highly unlikely) - no new game feature
or, possibly:
- Shepard has to have surgery to make sure his/her implants don't fall out or something.

Anyone got any ideas?

P.S. This doesn't mean I'm not psyched for ME3, Christmas 2011 can't come quickly enough!
Nah. Before the game even starts people who are carrying on their save will get to edit hair but not change the facial structure (like in ME2 - you couldn't actually change the facial structures of your imported character). For those without a save game, they will simply make their Shepard before the game starts.

I doubt they will need an excuse for that.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
mazzjammin22 said:
Everybody dies in another attack. Shepherd is revived by an new but equally bitchy "romantic interest."
The fans are handed the idiot ball, gladly accept it, plot holes galore.
Mass Effect 3 lauded by critics and is considered Game of the Year at numerous shows, magazines, and websites.
 

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mazzjammin22 said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
mazzjammin22 said:
Everybody dies in another attack. Shepherd is revived by an new but equally bitchy "romantic interest."
The fans are handed the idiot ball, gladly accept it, plot holes galore.
Mass Effect 3 lauded by critics and is considered Game of the Year at numerous shows, magazines, and websites.
The plot is lauded as a high point in the series, despite being shorter than MW2 and featuring "streamlined" dialogue trees.
 

bl4ckh4wk64

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They already stated that you will once again meet up with everyone that lived in your previous playthrough if you import. If you don't import, I'm guessing you would be the sole survivor after destroying the collector base. Why would Bioware just make your past people disappear? That's stupid.
 

mireko

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Zaeed leaves because he's a dick

Kasumi goes to a parallel universe (Fringe-style) and becomes a Dragon Age 2 DLC character with a fifteen-minute quest for 30$

Jacob is not included because BioWare genuinely forget him

Jack goes crazy/dies from neural degeneration (they foreshadowed this one, didn't they?)

Gerald Ford gets eaten by wolves

Fans whine
 

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Scarecrow 8 said:
I bet that your romance from ME1 will come back and will try and kill you and you new romance...which from the looks of it it's going to happen to everybody. I mean...Who honestly stuck with Ashly when you had Tali?
I did. Tali seemed too much like a sister to me. Would you sleep with your sister?
 

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Ok, its hard to speculate from all ive seen of ME3 which consisted of a destroyed earth and soem british guy. Now, what Im thinking is that this british guy has little or nothing to do with the plot and its just a vehicle to show the effects of the attack on earth.

Perhaps the brit is there because he will be a secondary primary char (sort of like Laguna in FF8) to which you follow his plot for a portion of the story on the ground in defense of earth. What seems feasible to me is if they are going this route what this can do is set up a vehicle for a ME spin off to be a true shooter title where your the brit who is fighting in defense of earth. By introducing him in ME3 it seems like an attempt to craft a solid char to build around as opposed to introducing one unheard of.

Again if they are making this guy a player in the story, its entirely possible that there could be something that has blocked off shepard from helping, and the first portion of the game is centered around from freeing shepard from this roadblock and once you do so, the brit becomes a primary companion of shepards party and shepard takes its role as party lead.

Honestly, its hard to speculate anything based on one and a half minutes of video. I think the best thing is to have patience and wait till either more is revealed or just wait till its released which is what I am trying my best to do.
 

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It's reasonable to assume that Bioware wants to bring in alot of new squadmates to keep things fresh while keeping a few favourites. However if the people they plan on keeping died during the suicide mission, then they won't be in your new squad and you'll have some empty spaces. Quite simple.

A lot of the characters have pretty significant roles to play though. Mordin could help create a cure, Grunt would help strengthen the Krogan, Legion and Tali would help create peace, Samara is a justicar, and the rest are extremely talented at their jobs. I can't say for sure which characters could stay and which would leave but every single one of them would have a very reasonable excuse to do so. But I can make a bet that Garrus will stay and Tali would to but only if you romanced her, otherwise she becomes the new Admiral.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Mr_Universal said:
Well, I think that they will make it optional for you to load in your saved games from ME2, and then it will correct itself from the data there, for example who died in the final mission and who did not.
Hmmm... Interesting thought... What happens if you import a save in which Shepard died? o_o
You won't be able to, they already said so.
 

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Excuse? Bioware showed most of the main characters from the last game. Even your sqaudmates. You saw Liara, Wrex, Ashley or Kaiden Tali, and Garrus. The only excuse was to keep them away from you so you could find them later.
 

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I think it will be interesting to see what transition there is this time around from 2-3 gameplay wise, like how to reconstruct your face and class and all that. Though honestly, that shouldn't be a big deal, I think if they just give you the option to change those things in the start without a logistical explanation for it (like Shepard dying in ME2 being the reason for his reconstruction) things will still be fine. I know I won't be recreating my Shepard, so I don't give a rat's ass if there is a stupid storyline-based reason for remaking my face and whatnot.

As far as teammates goes, I think it will be fairly easy for them to transition things smoothly. It is a lot of variables to take care of, but not every single one is dependent on more than a few other variables, so linking them together shouldn't be too difficult (though definitely a harder task than it was from 1-2).

I will play ME3 to death either way, so I won't worry too much either way :)
 

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I think that since you got most of the characters together for the suicide mission in two, they don't really have a reason to stick around any more, except the luming threat of the reapers, maybe.

I'm a big ass fanboy for Mass Effect and everytime I read a thread about it in these forums, people's opinions who differ from mine make me mad >:'(
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Am I missing something? We know nothing of the plot yet, so why do you think all the characters will disappear?
It's just the same argument I've had with a dozen other people. They think that their lack of imagination extends to the Bioware wrting staff.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Mr_Universal said:
Well, I think that they will make it optional for you to load in your saved games from ME2, and then it will correct itself from the data there, for example who died in the final mission and who did not.
Hmmm... Interesting thought... What happens if you import a save in which Shepard died? o_o
It would be just like chuck norris dividing by zero... too much epicness for mortal man to be able to explain.