Whats so bad about xbox one?

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Genocidicles

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HydroFire said:
And you will keep your games that u brought if a new xbox comes out -_-
What makes you think that? You don't get to carry your digital 360 games over to the xbone, so what makes you think it'll be different when the xbox two or whatever is released?
 

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HydroFire said:
we'll actually you CAN'T record for youtube in a ps4 it's impossible to connect it to a capture card unless you do illegal things. Which will then get your channel removed. And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Two things on this, one I wouldn't believe that rumor flying around until Sony actually comes out and says that it is indeed true. Two, you seem to be under the impression that all gameplay videos get uploaded to YouTube, when there are other sites that upload the stuff as well. The site I upload, Game Anyone, has already commented on this and has said that Sony has been the best when asking them to take down videos, and Game Anyone has been up for years. Then there is Twitch, in which Sony revealed at the GDC that the PS4 will have Twitch support.

yesbag said:
Isn't there age rules on the Escapist?
I do believe the OP may be underage.
[sub](it also explains his stubborn behaviour in thread creation and childish tone.)[/sub]
The age rule for the Escapist is 13 years old, any younger and you'll usually be suspended until you actually are of age.
 

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Genocidicles said:
HydroFire said:
Many people want that "shitty camera" it has voice commands and MANY other features like Skype ect.
Well many people dont want it. The fact that the PS4 doesn't force you into buying a gimmicky piece of shit is plenty of reason to prefer it over the xbone.

HydroFire said:
How was it not like steam?
Steam should be able to stay offline for as long as necessary (although offline mode is quite glitchy).

Steam has awesome sales. Microsoft's equivalent of Steam (GFWL) had pathetic sales.

Steam won't be taken down in ten years time to make way for Steam 2.
None of this effects me as an Internet connected gamer. And you will keep your games that u brought if a new xbox comes out -_-
Well, you do realize that even if none of the issues affect you personally, they might affect the people who dislike them? You seem to be answering all the responses with insistence that it doesn't bother you, doesn't affect you, doesn't impact you in any way, and that's fair enough. But just because it doesn't impact you, doesn't by extension mean that you can dismiss the concerns or complaints of everybody else. o_O Folks are explaining why they personally don't like, or don't plan to purchase the console. They're not trying to convince you to do likewise.

For me personally, I found the old policies were ridiculous. Now that they've mostly been rescinded, I have no particular reason to outright dislike the console. That being said, I find that their target market seems both undesirable for me as a gamer, and not even quite so likely to succeed. It seems to be trying to appeal as an entertainment box, in a market filled with far cheaper entertainment boxes. Finally, I'm not as much a shooter fan as an adventure game, platform fan, so based off the past generation, PlayStation is more likely to have what appeals to me.
 

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yesbag said:
shrekfan246 said:
HydroFire said:
Well firstly I don't work for Microsoft I am just a 13 year old gamer.
See, now this is just lazy. You've tipped your hand far too quickly.
Isn't there age rules on the Escapist?
I do believe the OP may be underage.
[sub](it also explains his stubborn behaviour in thread creation and childish tone.)[/sub]
The site is supposed to be PG-13. I do recall them frowning upon kids of a certain age at least admitting what age they are, though I'm not sure if it was 13, 14, or younger, and I'm not sure if it's still enforced as that was possibly two years ago.

But yes, I agree that it would explain a fair bit.
 

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Genocidicles said:
HydroFire said:
And you will keep your games that u brought if a new xbox comes out -_-
What makes you think that? You don't get to carry your digital 360 games over to the xbone, so what makes you think it'll be different when the xbox two or whatever is released?

The steam like library instead of disc games -_-
 

HydroFire

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shrekfan246 said:
yesbag said:
shrekfan246 said:
HydroFire said:
Well firstly I don't work for Microsoft I am just a 13 year old gamer.
See, now this is just lazy. You've tipped your hand far too quickly.
Isn't there age rules on the Escapist?
I do believe the OP may be underage.
[sub](it also explains his stubborn behaviour in thread creation and childish tone.)[/sub]
The site is supposed to be PG-13. I do recall them frowning upon kids of a certain age at least admitting what age they are, though I'm not sure if it was 13, 14, or younger, and I'm not sure if it's still enforced as that was possibly two years ago.

But yes, I agree that it would explain a fair bit.
In case you didn't know 13 yrs fits in pg-13
 

HydroFire

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yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Um... PS4 does voice commands too - for only $60 more (not $100) with a better base system to boot.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127373-PlayStation-Camera-Gives-PS4-Voice-Command-Capabilities
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/09/01/dont-worry-you-can-yell-at-your-ps4-if-you-want-to/
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/03/ps4-camera

BTW - affect - not effect.
Yes but the ps eye's voice commands will be nowhere near as accurate as the kinect's why do you think they are shipping the kinect with the xbox? -_-
 

Hero in a half shell

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HydroFire said:
Their introduction to the product neglected gamers to a large extent-----that wont matter once it comes out. Build a bridge and get over it.
Ok, so you don't care what a company acts like or how they treat their customers, you just care about the end product. Fair enough, but for many people seeing how Microsoft has treated us and their developers has made us want to make a stand and tell them that it's not alright the way they insulted us and dismissed their developers, and they need to improve their treatment of their customers, and the freedom that they give those customers with their products. That is very important to some people.


---------we'll actually you CAN'T record for youtube in a ps4 it's impossible to connect it to a capture card unless you do illegal things. Which will then get your channel removed.
You can record to Youtube with PS4, you just have to use their recording software: http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/06/youll_be_able_to_upload_your_ps4_videos_directly_to_youtube which has a potentially unlimited capacity to record from: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/08/08/ps4s-game-recording-length-could-be-virtually-unlimited/ and it comes for free from every PS4, unlike Xbox One's built in recording device which you have to pay for a Gold account to use.
And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Initial estimates put the PS4's better hardware as providing potentially up to 40 or 50% faster memory! That's not "unnoticeable" http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.828305-Developers-Say-Memory-Is-Faster-on-PS4-Than-Xbox-One
And that will be a very important advantage with next gen games, we've seen directly the effects of what happens when a console can't compete with the memory requirements of this gen's games, with the PS3's Skyrim performance that lagged the game to unplayable levels.

That will potentially cause major issues with games as the PS4 has a lot more room to advance, and as for the Kinect voice commands making up for it, well the PSeye has voice commands too, and motion controls and voice commands have not proven to be in any way beneficial to virtually all games except Dance Dance Revolution.

I also forgot to mention the price difference, which is important for some people who don't care about the Kinect, so the extra $100 is just an extra tax for a piece of equipment they don't want, even if you do want it, they don't, and I'm sure you can see that to them that makes the PS4 look a whole lot sweeter.
 

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yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Um... PS4 does voice commands too - for only $60 more (not $100) with a better base system to boot.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127373-PlayStation-Camera-Gives-PS4-Voice-Command-Capabilities
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/09/01/dont-worry-you-can-yell-at-your-ps4-if-you-want-to/
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/03/ps4-camera

BTW - affect - not effect.
Yes but the ps eye's voice commands will be nowhere near as accurate as the kinect's why do you think they are shipping the kinect with the xbox? -_-
And you know this because you've obviously used both of them already, right?
Weird, the only person spouting misinformation due to excessive brand loyalty around here, is you.

Yeah, ever heard of pax?
 

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And also I did a survey at my school (because of course if you do it here everyone will vote ps4 and make the survey have too many variables) so I did it at my school. Where not everyone is a hardcore gamer. The results were 75% xbox one and 25%ps4 we also made them give a reason why.(also if your wondering my school is a grade7-12 school.) The most common reasons were;

xbox one because it has the kinect (most said camera thingy)

Xbox one because it has exclusive Call of duty ghosts content.

Xbox on because its better for NFL( probably becuase of the built in fantasy foot ball and stuff)

Xbox one because it has voice commands

Xbox one because it has better exculsives



Ps4 because it has little big plannet

Ps4 because It has free online (they obviously didn't know about the new ps plus)

Ps4 because it is $50 cheaper ($50 in Where I live)

Ps4 becuase It has better exculsives

Ps4 because I have all the play stations
 

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HydroFire said:
Genocidicles said:
HydroFire said:
And you will keep your games that u brought if a new xbox comes out -_-
What makes you think that? You don't get to carry your digital 360 games over to the xbone, so what makes you think it'll be different when the xbox two or whatever is released?

The steam like library instead of disc games -_-
If you'll notice, he specifically called out the fact that your digital games will not work on an Xbox One.

Digital being "Steam-like" in this context.
 

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HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Um... PS4 does voice commands too - for only $60 more (not $100) with a better base system to boot.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127373-PlayStation-Camera-Gives-PS4-Voice-Command-Capabilities
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/09/01/dont-worry-you-can-yell-at-your-ps4-if-you-want-to/
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/03/ps4-camera

BTW - affect - not effect.
Yes but the ps eye's voice commands will be nowhere near as accurate as the kinect's why do you think they are shipping the kinect with the xbox? -_-
And you know this because you've obviously used both of them already, right?
Weird, the only person spouting misinformation due to excessive brand loyalty around here, is you.

Yeah, ever heard of pax?
There were no Xbox Ones or PS4a at PAX, just the glorious PCs of the Masterrace: http://bf4central.com/2013/09/battlefield-4-xbox-one-demo-on-pc/
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/pax-xbox-ps4-face-show-floor-sorta/
so their voice control handling there is pretty moot, since it was actually a PC interpreting both.
 

HydroFire

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yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Um... PS4 does voice commands too - for only $60 more (not $100) with a better base system to boot.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127373-PlayStation-Camera-Gives-PS4-Voice-Command-Capabilities
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/09/01/dont-worry-you-can-yell-at-your-ps4-if-you-want-to/
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/03/ps4-camera

BTW - affect - not effect.
Yes but the ps eye's voice commands will be nowhere near as accurate as the kinect's why do you think they are shipping the kinect with the xbox? -_-
And you know this because you've obviously used both of them already, right?
Weird, the only person spouting misinformation due to excessive brand loyalty around here, is you.

Yeah, ever heard of pax?



I have no idea how this is relevant - explain using non-cryptic language please.
Actually, nevermind - this is a good reminder of me why I don't argue with children.

He said "and you've oviously played both of them already" and I said "yes, ever heard of pax?" Read better next time -_-
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
yesbag said:
HydroFire said:
And also a unnoticeable lack of hardware in the xbox one get made up for by voice commands and the kinect.
Um... PS4 does voice commands too - for only $60 more (not $100) with a better base system to boot.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127373-PlayStation-Camera-Gives-PS4-Voice-Command-Capabilities
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/09/01/dont-worry-you-can-yell-at-your-ps4-if-you-want-to/
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/03/ps4-camera

BTW - affect - not effect.
Yes but the ps eye's voice commands will be nowhere near as accurate as the kinect's why do you think they are shipping the kinect with the xbox? -_-
And you know this because you've obviously used both of them already, right?
Weird, the only person spouting misinformation due to excessive brand loyalty around here, is you.

Yeah, ever heard of pax?
There were no Xbox Ones or PS4a at PAX, just the glorious PCs of the Masterrace: http://bf4central.com/2013/09/battlefield-4-xbox-one-demo-on-pc/

http://www.geekwire.com/2013/pax-xbox-ps4-face-show-floor-sorta/
so their voice control handling there is pretty moot, since it was actually a PC interpreting both.

No. There were xbox ones and ps4s at pax (Australia) I don't know about America though
 

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HydroFire said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
HydroFire said:
Well, is that going to effect gameplay? No

Is that going to matter when the console comes out. No

Is that going to matter once everyone gets one? No
Do not underestimate the power of bad PR, young padawan. You're doing them a disservice yourself just by picking up an issue nobody else has cared to remember in these forums for a while now.
Wtf? I don't care about Microsoft and politics and shit. All I care about is my gaming experience so xbox one is the one for me
In time you will realize "politics and shit" rules the course of companies and the products they make, young man.
 

Roxas1359

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HydroFire said:
Did you document your survey and record the results? Because saying you have evidence is one thing, but actually providing it and showing that it's both precise and accurate is another.
It also depends on how many people you asked, how much did they know about the consoles, etc.

Johnny Novgorod said:
In time you will realize "politics and shit" rules the course of companies and the products they make, young man.
Nothing is more true than this really.