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floobie

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Looking at that video, there were a handful I'd consider too skinny (maybe 5). But the rest looked awesome to me.

It's just personal preference. And, it also depends on the individual's body type and composition. Sufficient musculature in particular can make someone with really low body fat not look corpsey. Even the relative distribution of muscle mass can have a huge effect on that perception. I'm pretty skinny (male), and my lower body is more muscular than my upper body. As such, I do look pretty damn skinny, even though my body fat is just about ideal (14-17%, depending on the measuring device).

There's a pretty reasonable zone between the extremes here. There's a massive difference between being thin and being corpsey looking, just like there's a massive difference between being "not thin" and "fat".

I'm always very suspicious of people's biases in these sorts of discussions as well...

In many cases, more "voluptuous" people might claim someone who is simply lithe with totally reasonable body fat is a walking corpse, in order to take the edge off their own insecurities. And, vice versa, someone who finds themselves to be too skinny will call anyone with even slightly higher body fat than them fat.
 

Jimmy Sylvers

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This is all a little bit silly. Anorexia is a psychological disorder not a description of size. Thinner girls are generally healthier, obesity has a multitude of adverse health effects so in the selection of mates finding people who are possibly healthier more attractive is quite understandable.

But really if a girl has a healthy body I don't see why we need to judge her for being thinner it is as bad as doing the same to obese people. Sure some people do have health problems but I don't think those girls do. Even if they did it is the role of their friends and family to help them not the rest of the internet to ridicule them for being to thin.
 

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K. It does not surprise me in the least that 4 pages worth of 130+ posts and youve still not had anyone actually answer the base question. This is a faux enlightenment subject. Its one that people will use in many cases to try and "show how enlightened they are, by expressing a blanket tolerant opinion" even though it doesnt actually answer the question. Also that is rooted in fear of moderation, because some people will keep their posts more reserved so as to not incur mod wrath for saying something that might be construed as hateful or offensive.

Anyway, I will attempt to address this as honestly and as accurately as I can while actually giving examples of
Like "I like a size 000 woman over a size 8 beause _____"
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"I like to __________ and I can't do that with anyone bigger"
But please do keep in mind that what I say is not of my own opinion, but generalizations and repetitive opinions I have heard expressed in the past as well as the psychology behind it. So its going to be a long post.

In No particular order of importance.

1: Rarity/Status: Like it or not if left with no social discouragement otherwise men will more naturally though not always gravitate to a position where they view women as sexual objects. Part of mens subconscious line of thinking is that a woman is a life defining challenge that must be acquired and secured. With such men put an unusually heavy emphasis on the type of woman the pursue because the woman they get acts as a reflection on them.

So you will find that they will proactively seek a woman who represents uncommon quality. These skinny girls much as has been expressed by people complaining about unfair body image types, are not "realistic depictions of what a woman actually looks like" They hold that uncommon quality, in that they have a physical body that is harder to come by. In short men want what they perceive to be special and different. The ideology of "Why would I want her if anyone else could have her." comes into play. Something to make her special and unique setting her apart from the crowd. So to anyone who sees a girl with a guy one of the first things they will be able to determine about the girl without even speaking to them is her body weight, which instantly conveys the image of "Look, I caught a good one!" to anyone who sees the two of them together.

2: Physicality

Invariably body shape and size comes into play. Some people will just naturally fit together better than others do. I know I speak from first hand experience that being over 6`5 with a fairly low center of gravity that physically it is harder on me in sexual situations to be with a girl in missionary position for example. The reason is, I will end up either having to curl her up like a ball or end up essentially doing a split to get the best angle possible when with a skinny girl with no ass. However my body type is not normal. However with the perfected average 5`11 male body weighing in at the ideal 140-160lb range physically a smaller, skinnier girl would fit a little better.

3a: Inferiority complex

One of the more shallow as well as illogical sentiments I have ever heard against heavier girls is rooted in male insecurities. Just like how women have the whole "bad body image" thing, it is well known men tend to think their penis size is insufficient. So some men will subconsciously think that "every inch fatter she is, the smaller(length) my dick is going to feel to her". It is illogical because even though the optimal depth is only 2-3 inches, men have a tendency to think they need to be deep enough to be "screwing her uterus."

3b: Superiority complex

Much as said before men place disproportionate focus on the size of their junk. Its also true that sexually most men are both visual as well as auditory. Arousal stems predominantly from seeing sex, as well as the sounds of sex. (Conversely this is also why Porn tends to resonate more with men than women who tend to hold sex on emotional and tactile levels) So even if it is an incorrect assessment, there is a rationale of proportional body size. I have heard in the past "A bigger girl is automatically going to be more loose" The line of thinking here is that if a woman is taller or wider, then it will somehow make the vaginal canal slightly wider. So by that flawed line of reasoning, A wide girl is wider, a thin girl must be thinner. The desire for a narrow set vagina is obviously for tactile sensation, but it is also centered around the females physical response. Men typically want to "hear" her reaction. The moans and sounds she will make in response to his touch. So coupled with the irrational fear of an inferior penis size, it makes sense that her smaller size will somehow equate into his smaller size not being as impactful.

4: Women bring it on themselves

DaMullet said:
Women are killing themselves and falling into ruts of depression over this.
Despite what you may think about men, it is really not men (as an entire gender) who try to proliferate the negatively reinforced body image that women experience. It centers around advertising and marketing more than a reflection of male desires. It has long been documented and studied that women respond more to advertising than males. This is why advertising and marketing that we see, hear, read, etc is 80% or more geared toward women. With that said it is also well documented that fear and inferiority make for very effective marketing strategies. So yes you will see ad execs intentionally push negative reinforcement and perpetuate inferiority complexes because they want to project that "THEY" are selling the "cure". "You too can be beautiful... Just buy this!" So this is an area that the blame is not for men as a gender (perhaps specific male ad execs) and it is not even an issue of feminine insecurity or lack of self confidence as much as it is that as far as it comes to advertising, women on average more susceptible to advertising. Whats worse is that not all women are that susceptible, but the marketers know that the ones who are, will invariably act as a carrier and infect those who are not through social interaction.

5: Dominion

This has a tendency to fall under gender defined roles. Its an almost natural state (though obviously not a rule) for in heterosexual relationships for the male to be sexually dominant and the female to be more submissive. Its not really clear if that centers more around mens desire to feel in control, or if it falls to various other factors.

Typically men are physically stronger than women (Again, not a rule) So inherently there is a degree of dominion already bestowed. However the larger the gap in physical strength between the male and female, the larger the sensation of dominion grows. So when a male is with a female closer to his own size and strength that sense of dominion becomes greatly diminished because its harder to dominate someone your own size. So to an effect some men will favor someone who projects a sense of being weaker and more delicate.

Physically during sexual engagement it is also much harder to hold the entire body weight of a girl weighing 170lbs than one weighing 120lbs. Thus it requires a greater expense of energy and stamina to do so. Thus it can create a sexually limiting factor to those who play rough and take the roleplay of dominion further than the average will.

6: Virility and fertility

It boils down to genetic precursors that create subconscious desires for sex to be productive and thus reproductive. It has been said that Women favor experience and ability, men favor youth and fertility. Both work in conjunction to create the ideal conditions for the possibility of procreation.

Humans invariably increase in body size as they age until they plateau and begin to wither into old age. So from a physical perspective a thinner girl will project an sense of youth and fertility than an older woman will be able to.

As a side note on this matter, It was suggested that the root of this is a naturally latent desire in men towards Hebephilia and ephebophilia, and pursuing a mate who is smaller allows one to create the illusion of someone who is under age. I disagree with the assertion, because it implies a criminal intent, whereas conceptually the age really has no impact on the decision when compared to the prospective fertility, and the latent desire to produce healthy offspring. Chronophilia has its own set of terms and conditions for its presence and there is little or nothing that suggest a correlation of factors linking the two.

7: Health

While tied into fertility, body weight has impacts on an individuals health and stamina. While not impossible (as the prior poster referenced ), it is rare that you see sumo wrestlers running marathons. It stands to reason that someone who weighs more will expend more stamina to accomplish the same physical intensive task as someone who is lighter. So if less energy is expended, the perception may be that it will allow for longer sexual sessions and include more of her physical exertion in the act. There does seem to be a resistance to women who "Just lay there and look pretty"

8: Status and perception

There are portions of this that fall under the way people present themselves and the way they are perceived. If you compare two similar females one being slightly under weight and one being slightly overweight, based on a glance that impression might suggest that the smaller girl either holds greater status on her own (such as money to support better diet and health care maint such as exercise equipment). as well as a suggestion of someone who has their life together and is able to maintain a regulated existence that balances a diet and takes the time for exercise, while balancing the other parts of their life. That can be an alluring factor for some people.

Oddly, it can also represent the exact opposite, but still remain viewed to be a positive factor. If a girl is underweight to the point that it suggests that she might be impoverished it might also suggest that she would be easier to approach because she might be open to someone who could offer her opportunity to take care of her better than what she currently experiences.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, but it gives a much stronger framework to understand some of the justifications, however flawed they may be, that commonly some people employ. In short you are not going to get a single Epiphany level answer as because with humans we have a wide variety of motivations for any actions we make with many times there being great overlap in reasonings for different justifications. I hope this gives you a better understanding to the question than the 4 pages of posts I read before I posted gave. If I hadn't found the prior answers insufficient, I would not have wasted an hour writing what turned out to be longer and more detailed than my last five collegiate essays.
 

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DaMullet said:
And when I mean skinny I mean skinny skinny, like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=711ynu4aYdY

I really really don't get it. I can't even share my views on why I don't like it because they're too harsh, even for the internet.

But to sum it up, when I hear of women who are already tiny want to loose weight, I can't help but think of this guy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUAPDvo2UBM

So can someone please explain to me why this is attractive?
The youtube video nearly perfectly captures what Bill Clinton used to call "heroin chic."

Interestingly enough, about a year and a half ago Ralph Lauren or Christian Dior fired a model about a month after photoshopping her into looking like Mrs. Incredible. The model was over 6 feet tall and-gasp-120 lbs. The pic, by the way, was disgusting.

Thanks for filling my day with Aqua Teen.
 

HentMas

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ugh thats... disgusting, i dont want to look at the skeleton of someone, i thought the "thing" about liking "females" was because they had things we dont in our bodies, like boobs and silky soft skin and an amasingly gorgeous ass :S

the third pic i can only asume is female because its being dumped in a female video, but seriously i dont find it appealing at all :S
 

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I'm not sure really. I prefer my women to have curves.

I like to think that super skinny women are the closest necrophiliacs can have to a corpse without looking creepy. (No offense to those who do happen to be either of those two)
 

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But the girls in your video are not slim, they are borderline skeletal, which is really fucking gross in my mind.
Keep in mind that the people you just described as "really fucking gross" are human beings with feelings. Just a thought.
 

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HentMas said:
ugh thats... disgusting, i dont want to look at the skeleton of someone, i thought the "thing" about liking "females" was because they had things we dont in our bodies, like boobs and silky soft skin and an amasingly gorgeous ass :S

the third pic i can only asume is female because its being dumped in a female video, but seriously i dont find it appealing at all :S
Do something for me: Take a step back and consider how you'd feel if you read a comment like that about a picture of you.

You don't find skinny girls attractive. We get it. There's no need to start using words like "disgusting", or sneering at a women for not having curves. Not every woman does.
 

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MetalMagpie said:
HentMas said:
ugh thats... disgusting, i dont want to look at the skeleton of someone, i thought the "thing" about liking "females" was because they had things we dont in our bodies, like boobs and silky soft skin and an amasingly gorgeous ass :S

the third pic i can only asume is female because its being dumped in a female video, but seriously i dont find it appealing at all :S
Do something for me: Take a step back and consider how you'd feel if you read a comment like that about a picture of you.

You don't find skinny girls attractive. We get it. There's no need to start using words like "disgusting", or sneering at a women for not having curves. Not every woman does.
amm... OK... point taken, I apologize, they asked for my opinion on the video, and i gave it, but i didn't considered anyones feelings because i was talking about a video, and i was thinking about the "sex appeal" of the girls on that video, and when i reached the 3rd pic, the first word that came to mind was "disgusting" it wasn't meant for all the skinny girls, my whole comment was aimed towards that particular pic, which in itself does look like it could be from a woman or a small boy

but I apologize non the less, it wasn't my intention to offend anyone.

OH, and if i read a comment like that about a pic about me, i would actually laugh, because i have never cared about what other people think of how i look, but still i got your point ;)
 

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DaMullet said:
SpaceBat said:
DaMullet said:
You know... thank you for the responses but... no one has actually answered the question of why.
Because the question doesn't need answering. You do not have credible criticism on this matter and neither do I have any on your preferred answer, whatever that may be. I just feel attracted to slim (not necessarily skinny) women, that's just the way it is. I don't know why and I don't care why.
Yeah it kinda does need answering. Women are killing themselves and falling into ruts of depression over this.

And you have absolutly zero answer for me? Why are things like thick teighs and maybe a small belly unattractive then?
No it doesn't need answering. Are you saying that I'm to blame (+ people who think the same way) for people dying and falling into ruts depression due to my preference for skinny women? What the fuck, are you being absolutely serious right now?
Two things:
- By saying this, you're saying that all women try to make themselves thin not so they can feel better over themselves or whatever other reason they may have, but so that men might find it attractive. That is a ridiculously faulty and stupid statement and you should stop generalizing.
- And even if this were true, even if all women do all of the things they do just for us, then I'm still not to blame. It's their choice how they want to treat themselves and their body, it's their choice if they want to harm themselves over it in any way and you're basically saying that women can't think for themselves and will do anything to get the approval of us superior men, which is why we men should be careful not to let these silly, primitive and inferior women harm themselves by starving themselves out for us.


Why are the things that you find attractive, attractive to you? You have no answer that you can back up with evidence, because it's all completely subjective. So yes, I have no answer for you, because there is no answer and you would not have an actual objective answer for me as well if I asked you the same.
 

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x EvilErmine x said:
While that guy is obviously a dick, he's sort of right. Look the amount of fat people out there who are fat because of a physiological or genetic reason is tiny as a percentage of the total. It is fair to say that the majority of them are fat because they do not burn as many calories as they consume. That's not to say that they they ate all the cake but rather they may live on a diet of healthy well balanced food but it'll still get you fat if you don't burn the calories off.

I don't condone picking on fat people at all but I don't think they should get any special treatment either.
While I would dispute it being a tiny percentage (I'd say depression and other mental health issues make up a suprisingly large chunk - but that's based on personal observation), I understand.

I was not saying that they should get any kind of special treatment though, just that they get alot of crap thrown at them purely for their weight. If it were based on gender or race it'd be a big deal but when it's weight (and only on the bigger side of the scale at that) it's just accepted as being deserved. That's what bothers me.

All this typing and I still can't say it clearly. I apologise if this is an incoherant mess.

More OT though: I'd imagine alot of it is a cultural issue, as has been mentioned. Like historically, larger women were more desirable (still is in some places), of the Chinese binding feet. The latter case is both a little disturbing yet fascinating. Beyond that, there are people that like all kinds of women. Take a look through a lonely hearts column sometime. Some of that stuff is *wierd*, but there'll be a man/woman out there to fit it.
 

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MetalMagpie said:
Torrasque said:
But the girls in your video are not slim, they are borderline skeletal, which is really fucking gross in my mind.
Keep in mind that the people you just described as "really fucking gross" are human beings with feelings. Just a thought.
It's interesting how it's totally socially acceptable, and bordering on pseudo-enlightened to call someone skinny "disgusting and gross", but saying the same about someone fat makes you a giant wang.

I've been on the receiving end of both ends of this spectrum. I used to be decently chubby, by my standards. Now I'm pretty skinny (but WELL within reason), having worked my ass off to lose some excess fat. I basically halved by body fat from about 30% to 15%. And now I have to endure people calling me "skeletal", "corpsey", "emaciated", "anorexic" etc... I may be a guy, but I have feelings too ;) It's pretty annoying. And, interestingly, I hear more bullshit from people now than when I was fat. Back then, most of what people said was ultra implicit and at most a "gentle reminder" to get some exercise. So, I did that, and now I apparently look like a corpse. I'm pretty damn healthy, frankly. I have awesome cardio, pretty average and functional strength, my resting heart rate is awesome, I still eat a fair bit when I'm active, I have no qualms about indulging in some less than healthy treats here and there. But, apparently I'm a corpse. Great.

Crazy world...
 

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Marzirocks

Afterwards, I did come up with some interesting observations about body image. For every guy that likes a skinny girl, there is a guy that likes a fat girl. WOMEN are the ones that feel they need to be that thin. (Granted, there are jerks who tell their girl to lose weight, etc. but they are fairly rare.) Women perpetuate this without meaning to.

Men like what they like. I have known more than enough guys who have no idea why their girl is constantly dieting and worrying about her looks when he's told her a million times she looks fine.

I seem to have gone off on a tangent. My point was really just to point out WHY there are so many skinny women in media and how it happened.
- This is much truth here, thanks for posting it ,Marzirocks. Women are far worse about kicking their own butts for their appearance than most men truly feel about them. I never once told any girls I dated they needed to lose or gain weight based on my feelings. My ex was rather tall at 6'4"/193 and normally ran around 180 lbs.(which alot of it was in her chest as she was 40 DD heh.) I still could toss her around like nothing but I'm quite strong for my size. (5'4" 170 lbs.) I remember when she was waiting for me at the airport, I came up behind her since I could easily spot her first in a crowd then grabbed her from behind and spun her around.

Even when she was gaining weight due to a medical issue she was experiencing, I never let that change my feelings as I told her then when she was upset talking on the phone when some coworker took a pot shot saying "When is the baby due?" I replied "My feelings for you are not dependent on what the scale says on a given day." She then replied, "I feel so lucky right now I'm with you." I didn't put this pressure on her to be thin , she did the majority of it her. I could tell she wasn't happy with herself till she got back down to her norm once her system straightened out. (Things fell apart due to the distance between us when she moved across the country, never because of physical appearances reasons.)

My stance was always if your boobs stick out further than your belly then you're ok for girls.(For guys if you can't clearly see your manhood then you need trim the fat.) However that works out. Whether you're curvy with big boobs or skinny and a bit more perky upstairs, it doesn't matter as long as your body fits together. There's no wrong answer as there's a person out there who wants you as is. This world has never been one size fits all. I fail see why women should conform to a single vision since they were never meant to. They need to love themselves for who they are..or as Scott Pilgrim said...Unlock their power of self respect. If you can love yourself so can the rest of the world.


Heh, well, maybe I should have pointed out, that I am usually only attracted to short women.. Again, because I like being super butch during sex

And 70+ is obese in my eyes, a girl has to be tall for them to not be obese when they are above 70. And if they are so tall, I am just not turned on by them.. So, lose-lose for me
They're all same height when they're laying down heh. It always amuses me hearing guys have this cut off for height, especially guys on the taller side since they're ones all taller girls seem be shooting for.Both sides of that seem to have issues they need get over in themselves. My buddy, Frank who's a big guy at 6'2" and over 400 lbs is like I wouldn't date a girl taller than 5'8".(though I've seen him make out with girls who were taller than that so it's clearly not a hard and fast rule with him.) My other buddy who's 6'3" like I wouldn't want to date a girl who can look me in the eye. Then here I was the shortest guy in the group of friends dating the girl who was taller than all of them heh.

I never felt like less of a man as there's 3 things a bunch of men would consider that would give them an inferiority complex. A woman who (A) makes tons more money than them (B)A woman who is taller than they are. (C) can lift more than them or tougher than they are.I'm completely ok with all the above(I met this amazing girl who was all 3, and I was just blown away by her. Unfortunately she only wanted to date super jocks despite us having everything in common and being close friends.) as I never would hold a girl back because I was less than them in some area. I'd see it as challenge to try to keep up with them rather than drag them down to my level. I just have a large prescence and alot of confidence(most of the time heh.) though as people always say I'm taller than I am when people ask. (I've over heard my friends saying what's Mike like 5'7" right?) My ex commented one time she's like forget how short you really are except when I look at picture of us standing next to each other. (I come up to about the top of her shoulder.) I've always felt like I belong with the people I am with.

I figured I was the last person to be having cut offs for height. If I wouldn't date a girl above my own height 5'4"/163 CM, it would cut off waaay too much of the population heh. I've been with girls on both extremes of shorter than me and taller than me.(I'd prefer if I eventually wound up with a girl on the taller side to not have hobbit children, but we'll see what happens. I'm keeping an open mind as we'll see what fate has in store for me next.) Again simliar to weight, all how it's put together. Women can be beautiful and amazing creatures for alot of different reasons.
 

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I know some girls who are about that thin but are very healthy, but I find this sort of 'thinspiration' as damaging and really not something to aim for as an ideal body image for woman. I'm curvy, and even though I've started excising more regularly I do not want to ever become that stick thin, just a little more healthy. I like my curves they makes me feel feminine, so I'm not gonna lose them any-time soon :D
 

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Erm, well some women can pull it off, same with being overweight.

It does look good on some i'm sure... But the vast, vast, VAST majority, it just looks disgusting. I've met about 3 people in my life that pull off the really skinny look. And I didn't find them attractive, I found them just pretty... I wouldn't date them or anything, I just acknowledged that they where kinda nice.

Tbh, I like women with a bit of meat and/or tub on them, but that's just me.
 

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Because the fashion industry thought it was a good idea to let gay men decide what a beautiful model is. Give me boobs or give me death.
 

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devil's advocate coming through.

because we are wired to admire 'healthy' bodies. social factors only do so much.

women like men with muscle, speaking broadly. most don't like men with terrifyingly gratuitous amounts of muscle, just as most men don't like women that are inhumanly thin.

that being said, I can't help but roll my eyes whenever someone who is plainly unattractive to the opposite sex blames it entirely on 'the media' and 'society' and it's definitely not them weighing 250 pounds and having no ambitions to change that. when people refer to how renaissance trends and other historical periods that exalted women who were fat, they prefer to avoid looking at the paintings of that era as the women depicted aren't really that fat.

as to why women are driven to bizarre acts of weight loss, it's because of social standards of attractiveness and also because women are fundamentally more self-conscious about their appearance, albeit for reasons that historical and social factors have played a part in. You don't find many anorexic or bulimic men.