Whats the deal with all the MW2 hate threads?

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knight56

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I knew the game was overhyped in MAY! I tried telling people that it was overhyped and might potentially fail on other forums before I moved here. About 3/4 of them didn't listen.

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Anyone complaining about it now, especially arguing game balance, is just trying to grab your attention.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
You give good arguments, and I admire that you don't insult me. Your posts are an inspiration to the rest of the forums and I would like to excuse my rude behavior
Oh, it's OK, you are forgiven. And thank you for saying such nice things about me.

People sometimes forget to blame the reviewer when they give a game you think is bad a good score, you know? Good thing we aren't like them, right?

And to think that some people would make false claims about what IW intended to do with their games when they clearly have no proof about it.
 

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FallenJellyDoughnut said:
Because it makes them edgy and kool! Just like all the hate for Halo and any other game that is generally fun with a cult following but failed to meet expectations.
This is by far and away the lamest method of discounting someone elses opinion of something.

I hated Halo because it felt wrong, looked wrong and sounded wrong. I dislike (the online part of) MW2 because it's unbalanced and ludicrous in every way. And I don't like the retards that seem to permeate every crack and crevasse of XBox Live nowadays. Basically IW planted the seeds of the games failings and then left the online gaming 'tards to water them until there was a greenhouse full of bullshit-plants.

It's not 'edgy' or 'kool'.......it's a reasoned dislike. Sure it may not match with your opinion, but at least do me the favour of accepting my reasons instead of merely brushing them aside with the latest of the forum-irritant phrases.

:)
 

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Because people care about the hype.
I didn't, and I certainly find it very fun.
And about that shitty incoherent pile of a storyline: it's actually pretty simple and straightforward, is full of "oh shit" scenes, and you die a lot in first person. It's all good for me.
 

Hollyw00d45

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my only REAL complaint is that the model 1887 shotguns have better range then most of the SMG's
 

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HUBILUB said:
AndyFromMonday said:
You give good arguments, and I admire that you don't insult me. Your posts are an inspiration to the rest of the forums and I would like to excuse my rude behavior
Oh, it's OK, you are forgiven. And thank you for saying such nice things about me.

People sometimes forget to blame the reviewer when they give a game you think is bad a good score, you know? Good thing we aren't like them, right?

And to think that some people would make false claims about what IW intended to do with their games when they clearly have no proof about it.
"And to think that some people would make false claims about what IW intended to do with their games when they clearly have no proof about it."

False claims? No proof? Very well: http://www.modernwarfail2.com/2009/11/16/warning-to-potential-customers/

Read the article, then read the front page. 'Kay?
 
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AndyFromMonday said:
HUBILUB said:
Snip.
ok please stop spewing out your theory's of how they ripped you off, it was your fault that you bought this game and it is your fault that you hyped it up so much so in the end you think they made a shit game and that they back stabbed you. they know how to make a game. you don't know how hard it is to live up to the expectations of a earlier game they made. maybe you should try and make a game, see how that works out.

really your preaches are just lame ass excuses to hate the game.

this is my last quote to you, im done, i refuse to start a flame war with someone like you....
 

Cherry Cola

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AndyFromMonday said:
Would you please consider to check the data of this particular website and see if your arguments are correct so that this dispute can be solved in a civil way
Of course I can my friend, nothing would delight me more.

Hmmm... where is the quote where IW says "Well, we knew the game sucked, but we told everyone it was great! See how smart we are?" Because I know someone was talking about how IW thought that their game sucked but continued working on it anyway.
 

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FallenJellyDoughnut said:
Because it makes them edgy and kool! Just like all the hate for Halo and any other game that is generally fun with a cult following but failed to meet expectations.
Damn right. Never liked Halo 3 (loved the first one though) and I dislike MW2, but goddammit some people seem to only live off hating what's loved by many.

Same thing with Twilight.
 

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Fallenangel157 said:
See, the first poster on your thread was a potential flamer right from the start.

I'm not trying to say "I told you so", but now you see that a lot of people are uncivil when it comes to this kind of subject. Enjoy your justified and unbiased opinion with people like me or Baby Tea instead ^^
 

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HUBILUB said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Would you please consider to check the data of this particular website and see if your arguments are correct so that this dispute can be solved in a civil way
Of course I can my friend, nothing would delight me more.

Hmmm... where is the quote where IW says "Well, we knew the game sucked, but we told everyone it was great! See how smart we are?" Because I know someone was talking about how IW thought that their game sucked but continued working on it anyway.
A. I was reffering to IWnet. Read my post.
B. http://www.modernwarfail2.com/2009/11/29/activision-knew-on-forehand-iwnet-was-going-to-fail/
 

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There are some right idiots in this thread, where is AndyFromMonday talking about the game failing to meet his expectations due to being overhyped? He's talking about expecting the game to deliver what the vast majority of multi-player PC games can and do provide. I'm shocked people can't understand that.
 

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The amount of hate a new popular game receives is directly proportionate to the amount of unfettered praise it receives.

Basically, if anyone says a new game is 'the best game ever made', or if reviewers throw accolades and perfect scores at its undeserving feet - people will react.
 

Danny Ocean

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project23 said:
screenshot is a good case in point.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6062/1258035395841.jpg
(screenshot of the Boycot CoD:MW2 group on steam with most members playing CoD:MW2!)
Huh? No it isn't. That group has 833 members, only 36 are listed. That's 4.3%.

Also, only 19 of the 32 people in game on that page are playing MW2. That's 59.3%.

0.043 x 0.593 = 0.025 = 2.5% of the group can be seen to be playing MW2 in that screenshot.

From this we can establish that this image in no way is a good case in point, as it does not show most members playing MW2 by any stretch of the imagination.

As for the topic:

Fallenangel157 said:
I'm not trying to force my opinion on everyone else if you thought I was. But I want to hear escapist's opinion of MW2.
People only state opinions without prompting if they are trying to persuade others. Your prompt, you may argue, is that there are too many threads expressing dislike of the game. This opinion conflicts with your own, so what you are really doing is arguing with those people. IE, forcing your opinion on them. No?

Fallenangel157 said:
What you are doing, is just trying to impose your opinion on to everyone else's opinion.
Quite.

Well you ask the Escapist for it's opinion on this game, here is mine:

I dislike this game immensely for the following reasons:

1. I've finished the single player to 100% within a couple of days of playtime. That's just not enough for me.

2. Now I've been playing multiplayer, and I've reached the top level in another couple of days of play time. That's just not enough for me.

3. Not only that, but the multiplayer is incredibly frustrating for a myriad of reasons. Every time I go on I go on in full knowledge that I will quit in a fit of frustration and rage. Anyone who knows me knows that that is not something I will do often.

4. I find the new multiplayer system insufferably poor at finding games, consistently laggy, incapable of matching skill levels (as it was purported to do), and unreliable.

Note that none of these have anything to do with the hype the game received, simply my view on the gameplay.

And yes I'm still playing it, but I don't enjoy it. It's just something to do, really.

Feel free to argue with me, I don't object to people trying to do so, unlike a great many on this forum, it seems.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
HUBILUB said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Would you please consider to check the data of this particular website and see if your arguments are correct so that this dispute can be solved in a civil way
Of course I can my friend, nothing would delight me more.

Hmmm... where is the quote where IW says "Well, we knew the game sucked, but we told everyone it was great! See how smart we are?" Because I know someone was talking about how IW thought that their game sucked but continued working on it anyway.
A. I was reffering to IWnet. Read my post.
B. http://www.modernwarfail2.com/2009/11/29/activision-knew-on-forehand-iwnet-was-going-to-fail/
You are no longer allowed to post. I don't disagree with you, I don't think your opinions are stupid - but you post count is now at 1337. Stop now, and be awesome.
 

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I wasn't overhyped, mainly because I pretty much knew what Peer-to-peer on PC would bring. And I have the game, and it's just about what I expected, though I admit the multiplayer is quite a bit worse.

I love the single player, the lack of leaning was annoying at first (and it still sucks, even though it isn't annoying me), but I got used to it. That and the lack of changing my field of view and such are the only things that annoyed me about SP. Spec Ops is awesome, plain and simple, same things apply for it, though. Along with needing to be online in Steam to play with a friend (no decent LAN support = very annoying, though I did know it was coming).

The MP is worse than I expected. There's lag, there's rubberbanding, and all the other perfomance-related issues, but that was all to be expected, I knew this was coming. What I didn't know was that the matchmaking system they'd given us is bugged to death, and due to this and what I presume to be way too long a wait between matches (about 1 minute) means that I've probably spent about one third of my time trying to connect to games or what have you. Then there's the party feature.

This is even worse, and has probably hogged up the most of my non-playing time. First, make a party (hope everyone can join it, which is not always the case), then join a game, then wait half a minute, then hope that IWNet doesn't fuck up, then notice that IWNet fucked up, rinse and repeat.

I'm not that much against matchmaking, and of course I was willing to give this game a try, and to a certain degree I do enjoy it. The thing is how much they fucked up this new system they're throwing at us. And also how they threw the balance they were always talking about out the window. There are about four guns worth using in the whole game. Though I suppose they balanced the snipers well.

Model 1887, as it's called, is a shotgun in MW2. It is, by far, the most overpowered weapon, you've got 12 shots in a row with each killing enemies at a longer range than all other shotguns do.

Any close range encounters, this gun will win. Unless you're reloading (an issue with all other weapons except the knife) or looking the other way you will basically just plow through your enemies. That is until you're blown up. And that will happen. A lot.

There's loads of weapons you'll basically just aim at a random spot and kill lots of people with (that is random within some sensible boundaries), or one, which is enough considering you'll have up to 5 explosions at your command, and with the scavenger perk you'll basically have endless explosions.

Explosions are better than normal weapons at killing stuff, plain and simple (barring the aforementioned Model 1887 with akimbo), and giving everyone access to endless explosives is, quite frankly, unbalancing the game. Sure, everyone can use it, but that doesn't make it balanced.

The game usually manages to be entertaining, but to me the single player and spec ops (and the fact that I knew I was going to be trying to play it during a LAN party) are the only reason I bought this game. I knew the MP would be sub-par, but considering how few games I actually buy I'm playing it (I mean, saying a game could be lots better is a shitty argument against playing it if it's still entertaining to you).

/rant
 

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Because its fun and cool to hate something popular. Guess why so many people hate Harry Potter and Twilight.
 

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Fallenangel157 said:
AndyFromMonday said:
HUBILUB said:
Snip.
ok please stop spewing out your theory's of how they ripped you off, it was your fault that you bought this game and it is your fault that you hyped it up so much so in the end you think they made a shit game and that they back stabbed you. they know how to make a game. you don't know how hard it is to live up to the expectations of a earlier game they made. maybe you should try and make a game, see how that works out.

really your preaches are just lame ass excuses to hate the game.

this is my last quote to you, im done, i refuse to start a flame war with someone like you....
I did not hype this game. I tought it would be decent. Read my previous posts.
Can you not read my previous posts? They promised that IWnet would be an awesome experience: "No Lag, No hackers" and this is from their own forums. IWnet turned out to be shit, and it seems that IW knew all along. They asked 60 dollars for a game who's multiplayer barely works and with a SP of 4 hours. They purposely lied about the PC version of the game.

Expectations? The game itself would be better than MW1 if they would introduce Dedicated servers and balanced the kill streaks and weapons. 3 things and you'd have an amazing game. 3 things that are extremely easy to do. IW has no excuse not implementing them. This is not about expectations, this is about being a lazy asshole and deciding to port MW2 to the PC instead.

Oh, of course they are just excuse. Lag, hackers, glitchers, not being able to connect to a game, a game lasting 5 minutes at most, overpowered weapons are simply excuses.