Whats the deal with all the MW2 hate threads?

[AndyFromMonday]

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IW was very much aware that the system was going to have problems. Why did they not do additional testing and lied about the stability of IWnet?

Yes, I did trust IW the moment they said that IWnet would be good since their previous games didn't let me down. They made a promise, I trusted them.

Was I lied to? Yes. They promised a hacker proof, no lag game enviroment. I did not get that. Instead of conducting additional testing, they simply lied about the stability of the system.

Was I ripped off? Yes. 60 dollars for a game that barely has 4 hours of Single Player action and with a broken multiplayer doesn't seem to be worth 60 in my book and any sane persons book.

Did IW respond to the pleads of help from the PC community, asking them to fix their broken system? No, they ignored the PC community and are still doing so. There's virtually NO customer support.

"Oh, this will work great, since console-gamers have it good then this could be good too and settle differences"

Anyone in IW who tought that way should be head bashed. How can a company, knowing that they are over-pricing a game, not conduct additional testing?

"1. Reviews not telling you of all the faults"
Most reviewers only reviewed the console versions. The console versions work good, except for the oh so balanced weapons of course.

"2. Yourself, for not searching for enough information."
There was virtually no review for the PC version avalible at the time.

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http://www.shrani.si/f/3O/lR/4pUcurEu/mw.jpg

http://www.shrani.si/f/3B/CT/3kmhP9Zj/mw2.jpg

Yeah, sure. Different opinions. I respect that, has long has they can support those opinions.

 

[Cherry Cola]

"1. Reviews not telling you of all the faults"
Most reviewers only reviewed the console versions. The console versions work good, except for the oh so balanced weapons of course.

"2. Yourself, for not searching for enough information."
There was virtually no review for the PC version avalible at the time.

Well if there wasn't any reviews, then you bought the game without knowing all the facts, and that is even more reason for you to blame yourself.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

"1. Reviews not telling you of all the faults"
Most reviewers only reviewed the console versions. The console versions work good, except for the oh so balanced weapons of course.

"2. Yourself, for not searching for enough information."
There was virtually no review for the PC version avalible at the time.

Well if there wasn't any reviews, then you bought the game without knowing all the facts, and that is even more reason for you to blame yourself.

There were virtually no reviews for the PC version about 3 days to 1 week after the game was released I believe. I bought the game trusting IW. Why did I trust IW? By looking at their previous games and seeing the quality. At first, there were no actual problems apart from the annoying lag which made the game unplayable 60% of times. Has things progressed, hacks were released, the lag got even bigger, matchmaking became a *****. It rendered the MP unplayable.

This is the same like having a neighbor who's a murderer. He's all fine and dandy, acts polite but when you decide to enter his home he kills you.

How is this similar to IW? They made 3 amazing games, Call of Duty 1(I think), 2 and 4 . All of these made them Gods among gamers. When we were getting comfortable, expecting another amazing title from them BAM! They drop the bomb.

 

[Cherry Cola]

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They try to do something they think will help PC gaming but fail hard.

That's no reason to hate them. It's a reason to think they are dumb, but hating people for trying to do something new, how fail it might be, is wrong.

And it doesn't matter if you trust IW or not, nobody can guarantee that you will like something they have, right or wrong. That's why reviews exist.

Also, judging from how much hate there is for MW2 PC online, I have a hard time to accept that there was no reviews, professional or not, that talked about the problems. P2P on the PC was criticized even before the game came out, hard to miss.

 

[Reliq]

I don't get why everyone hates it so much? i mean sure it's not perfect, MW1 was better, but that doesn't automatically make it a bad game.

I have a lot of fun with this game. I think it's very well made, the length sucks a big fat hairy cock. but i still love it.
I don't know it's my opinion. I'm not trying to force my opinion on everyone else if you thought I was.But I want to hear escapist's opinion of MW2.

Liked the single player, liked the extra missions. Playing the multiplayer can at times be shitloads of fun. So I guess i liked the game even though IW-net was mayhaps not the most brilliant idea. What with all the, disconnects, host migrations, partymembers being dropped out of matchmaking, lag and hackers. So IW-net can be a real drag, but even though its got some major problems im still playing it, that must count for something.

 

[FYIImASpy22]

Arnt games like these meant to be multiplayer anywayz?

 

[AndyFromMonday]

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Try something new? Sure, try something new. Here's a tip tho: Do more testing first. It's not hard to try and test it overseas for e.g. and see how the system holds up then, now is it?

P2P was criticized even before they released the game? Why did they still use P2P then? Not because they were to lazy to implement dedicated servers, but because they wanted to "try something new"? Excuse me?

They only announced the P2P system about 2 weeks before the release of the game. The idea was no hackers, smooth gameplay. You couldn't really criticize that until you actually tried it. It kind of worked for 2 days, then everything went to freaking hell.

 

[Kodlak]

Its fun to moan about things.

 

[willard3]

2. Now I've been playing multiplayer, and I've reached the top level in another couple of days of play time. That's just not enough for me.

3. Not only that, but the multiplayer is incredibly frustrating for a myriad of reasons. Every time I go on I go on in full knowledge that I will quit in a fit of frustration and rage. Anyone who knows me knows that that is not something I will do often.

4. I find the new multiplayer system insufferably poor at finding games, consistently laggy, incapable of matching skill levels (as it was purported to do), and unreliable.

So...how did you reach level 70 (I'm assuming non-prestiged, if not then HOLY SHIT) in a "couple of days", if there's all these issues you speak of that prevent you from having any sort of multiplayer experience?

I can only conclude that you a) boost up the ass, b) exaggerate up the ass, c) rank-hack, or d) have no life and play 16 hours a day. If it's B, then ignore pretty much everything I said. If it's A, C, or D, but especially D, then you have problems which don't relate to a buggy game.

 

[Knight Templar]

MewTwo is the game they said it would be and the game functions as it should, beyond this they owe us nothing. If the game doesn't work because of their doing then of course they owe it to us to fix it, but if you bought it on PC you should have known the bad online you would have been at the mercy of. Note: Being wrong and lying are two things and to use the latter without any evidence is pointless speculation.

I play online via XboxLive, so the multiplayer is wonderful if a bit overloaded by DoubleShotgunDude's.

 

[Danny Ocean]

2. Now I've been playing multiplayer, and I've reached the top level in another couple of days of play time. That's just not enough for me.

3. Not only that, but the multiplayer is incredibly frustrating for a myriad of reasons. Every time I go on I go on in full knowledge that I will quit in a fit of frustration and rage. Anyone who knows me knows that that is not something I will do often.

4. I find the new multiplayer system insufferably poor at finding games, consistently laggy, incapable of matching skill levels (as it was purported to do), and unreliable.

So...how did you reach level 70 (I'm assuming non-prestiged, if not then HOLY SHIT) in a "couple of days"

Not Prestiged.

Sorry, my bad, three days of play time. The actual figure being 75 hours. 75/24=3.125

A) No boosts, whatever they are. I don't hack, if that's what you're saying.

B) No exaggeration, check my steam stats if you want, it's all there.

C) See A.

D) Nope, according to steam, my play time over the last two weeks has been 54 hours. Divide that by 14 and you get 4 hours a day. Not bad considering it's been raining for the last month, and I've had friends over for four of five of those days, in which time we usually just play games solid.

I don't know what else to say to you. I'm just that good. [footnote]=P[/footnote]Anyway, the game has been out for nearly a month now.

Besides, even if any of that was true, it still only removed the second point from my list of four.

 

[project23]

screenshot is a good case in point.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6062/1258035395841.jpg
(screenshot of the Boycot CoD:MW2 group on steam with most members playing CoD:MW2!)

Huh? No it isn't. That group has 833 members, only 36 are listed. That's 4.3%.
Also, only Only 19 of the 32 people in game on that page are playing MW2. That's 59.3%.
0.043 x 0.593 = 0.025 = 2.5% of the group can be seen to be playing MW2 in that screenshot.
From this we can establish that this imagine in no way is a good case in point, as it does not show most members playing MW2 by any stretch of the imagination.

Again I find reason to apologize for my poor choice of words. My only intention was to make a passing comment on something I found funny and rather ironic (people being in a group asking for a boycott but still consuming the boycotted product). For all I know that jpg could have been staged or faked as it isn't mine and I didn't make it, I just found it funny and wanted to share. I really honestly had no idea how serious people were taking any real or perceived issues surrounding CoD:MW2. If there is any possible way, I would like to gracefully bow out of this conversation and find some calmer discussion thread to haunt (before I loose a limb or something).

 

[Slaanax]

I hate all the posts about it, if that counts towards the hatred. Alas, this post is contributing to these posts. I'm having fun with multiplayer and playing Special Ops missions so to me it was worth it.

 

[Valukar]

It's the most over-rated and over-hyped game of this decade. That's all there really is to say about it.

 

[VinnyKings]

Because MW2 has the subtlety of a male pornstar who is waving his penis in your face. that and the fact that it has been massively overhyped and as Penny Arcade states "You're treating it like the return of JESUS!!!!".

 

[Jim_McClain]

Infinity Ward refuses to support dedicated servers, therefore

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

Why do people hate it? PC gamers at least hate it because it's a perfectly reasonable reaction to the way they have been treated by Infinity Ward. IW simply could not have said any more clearly "screw the PC gamers, we don't need them any more". No dedicated servers. Only 9v9 multiplayer maximum. No lean function! Could they have gone any MORE out of their way to make it clearly a console title, with everything that entails (i.e it's a WORSE GAME than the original Modern Warfare)? Console gamers will accept lower standards in their games than PC ones- a lean function on a controller is much harder to implement and use than on a PC keyboard/mouse setup and the consoles can't handle large multiplayer games as easily as PCs, so for console gamers these lackings are only par for the course. PC gamers on the other hand take it as a direct snub.

Subsequently, the game's ridiculous and frankly undeserved success has also ticked off a lot of people, since it seems to be emblematic of the way that lowered standards are proving profitable with enough hype, controversy and marketing. People see this as what's killing the industry, as MW2 is undeniably a worse game than its predecessor (as well as being a giant "fuck you" to PC gamers) yet has gone on to be hailed as the second coming and the greatest game ever. This obviously generates a great backlash of negative sentiment.

So yes, it's not hard to see why people create so many hate threads for this game, especially on an online forum where the majority of participants would have a gaming-worthy PC

 

[Justanothergamer300]

I hate it and love it at the same time what's wrong with me

 

[willard3]

2. Now I've been playing multiplayer, and I've reached the top level in another couple of days of play time. That's just not enough for me.

3. Not only that, but the multiplayer is incredibly frustrating for a myriad of reasons. Every time I go on I go on in full knowledge that I will quit in a fit of frustration and rage. Anyone who knows me knows that that is not something I will do often.

4. I find the new multiplayer system insufferably poor at finding games, consistently laggy, incapable of matching skill levels (as it was purported to do), and unreliable.

So...how did you reach level 70 (I'm assuming non-prestiged, if not then HOLY SHIT) in a "couple of days"

Not Prestiged.

Sorry, my bad, three days of play time. The actual figure being 75 hours. 75/24=3.125

A) No boosts, whatever they are. I don't hack, if that's what you're saying.

B) No exaggeration, check my steam stats if you want, it's all there.

C) See A.

D) Nope, according to steam, my play time over the last two weeks has been 54 hours. Divide that by 14 and you get 4 hours a day. Not bad considering it's been raining for the last month, and I've had friends over for four of five of those days, in which time we usually just play games solid.

I don't know what else to say to you. I'm just that good. [footnote]=P[/footnote]Anyway, the game has been out for nearly a month now.

Besides, even if any of that was true, it still only removed the second point from my list of four.

Oh, I took you literally when you said "a couple of days," as in you got the game on Monday and prestiged by Wednesday. I have no idea why I didn't think "play time" and not "real time."